Why can't I upload to the novice category?

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I joined a few days ago and have won a couple of rising stars and top 20%. Some of my inmages can JUST break 600 but start loosing points once they get there.
But I can't upload images to the Novice category, it doesn't even give the option.
It's obvious from my scores that I can't compete with the pros so why can't I compete in the novice category?
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Hello Karli, can you please post link to your Pixoto profile?

Winning a 5% or better award in another category (excluding Instagram & Mobile and Digital Art) will make you ineligible for further submissions.
If this isn't the case, please let me know.
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Ahh see I have one for number 8. So would that be it? (I was confused coz next to my score it says top 15% only?) I didn't realised as there are quite a few posting in novice that a ton of awards, for first place and everything.

I'm not actually sure how to post a link my profile name is just Karli Graham if put in the search it finds just my images.

Thanks
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Hi Karli, you are correct, 8th place is better then 5%, so since you have won #8 in category that does not include Instagram, Digital art or Novice category, you can not any more submit to Novice category.
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Ok so how come other people are aloud to?
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People just seem to be uploading all into novice and getting awards after awards and it doesn't seem fair to other people. I accept I can no longer upload to novice (even though my images arent really good enough to compete) but why should these people be aloud multiple first place awards just because the only use novice
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Karli, you can have a black-and-white duplicate of a colour image BUT the b/w photo MUST be in the Black and White category.
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Oh I didn't know that, as when uploading it says no similar. Thanks I'll keep that in mind.
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the photog that she used as an example has over 400 awards!!! that is some damn bug lol
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He is still posting in the "novice" bit now, it's not fair on all the people who are novices, they don't sand a chance! His photos are very good and would probably be doing well in the correct categories, but all he does is cheat!!!
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Hi, Karli you are correct, that user should have not been able to submit to novice. It is a glitch and I have asked that it is fixed. I'm sorry about his. and that you for pointing it out, it helps a lot.
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No worries.
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Ok seriously this guy uploaded another photo today into the novice category.

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
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Pixoto, please sort this out and remove all the awards he is not entitled to...
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Hi all, thank you for information. I have informed our tech that user can still submit to Novice category.
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doesn't look like anything will be done on this situation. he is still uploading to novice.
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and I have noticed several more that only submit to novice, and have dozens of awards in novice and can continue to submit to that category forever if they want. so long as they never submit to a regular category they can rack up all the awards they want and deny a fair chance to new people. doesn't seem fair or competitive.
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I totally agree with Joyce some of the photos are far beyond novice standard!
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This guy is still posting to novice. When are you going to stop him and remove all those awards he is not entitled to?
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Terry, I think we are talking to the wind....
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if they can't fix it they should suspend his account until they can, and that won't stop them removing all of those awards he is not entitled to. They could even e-mail him and tell him......
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I still also think they need to look into how many time you can submit to the novice category once you've started winning top spot awards. There are a couple of people that only submit to novice and are always getting number 1 and it doesn't seem fair
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Hi all, I'm sorry about this. I have again forwarded information about this users ability to post to Novice category to our tech.
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Can't you suspend him, get rid of all those awards he shouldn't have been awarded?
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I have posted a link to this page on one of his images (his highest rated one!!!) just so he knows that people are aware of what he is doing!!! I doubt it, but he may not realise what he is doing is wrong! I don't class myself as a professional, just an obsessed amateur, I have close to 600 awards on here, but all from the proper categories, no cheating!!! His photos do not look in any way like they are done by a novice! :(
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And once again he has uploaded a shot in novices...Please get this sorted. He does not deserve many of the awards he has got, he surely knows this. This has gone on far too long now. Suspend his account until it can be sorted and remove all the awards he is not entitled to, most of them in novice.
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Hello Dean, you commented that user #10 on link Zion posted should not have submit to Novice category. I checked the link and users account and I can see his all awards were in Novice category.

Please see category description page: http://blog.pixoto.com/category-descr...

Specifically this part:

"Novices Only – Photos taken by photographers who are working on developing their skills and want the opportunity to compete with others at their level. Winning a 5% or better award in another category (excluding Instagram & Mobile and Digital Art) will make somebody ineligible for further submissions. Images will not appear in stock and canvas searches."

As much as I know Novice category had same rules from beginning. Please see this blog post: http://blog.pixoto.com/2012/05/new-ca...

Dean, can you please let me know when have you posted to Novice only category? I checked your account to see why you were not able to submit any more in Novice only category and could not see any image posted in Novice only category.
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hi Jasenka Lukša i want to clarify, its not about the photo, whether the photo is very pro, so everybody can submit to novice category as long that they dont have any award to other category or they get 5% better to other category? em i correct? and Dean Thorpe your example is very far for what i"ve done, im not so stupid if somebody stealing i will do stealing? in this pixoto i dont get any money and this award i will never be rich so dont be so aggressive! nobody hurting you nobody stealing to you i do this for fun misunderstanding to the rules thats only mistake i done but for you its like sombodys killing you the way you react and thanks to Jasenka Lukša for clarification of the rule. Dean Thorpe your over reacting be cool dude!
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I run a photography group for mostly true NOVICE photographers, I have persuaded a few to post their work on here, but they never post more than a couple, why??? Because they don't stand a chance against morons who have hundreds of awards, but are so pathetic they can't stand the thought of losing, so they put their photos up against people who really are novices!!! Being proud of your awards is like a healthy Olympic athlete showing off medals from when he managed to run faster than kids in wheelchairs, it's just sad!!!

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra... <- Your photo, NUMBER 7 OF THE DAY, TOP 5% OF WEEK, TOP 5% OF MONTH, NOT IN NOVICES,THAT DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM POSTING AS A NOVICE!!! SO YOU ARE CHEATING!!!

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra... NUMBER 10 OF THE DAY, TOP 5% OF THE WEEK, MONTH, YEAR, NOT IN NOVICES!!! There are LOADS more of your photos that disqualify you! :(

Sorry Jesenka, I am sure I did post in Novice, but that was a long time ago, maybe I did post in another category as well and that could be why, but I do delete a lot of my lower scoring photos, so I may have deleted them. As I have pointed out above that person does have MANY top 5% photos in a categories other than Novices, Instagram & Mobile or Digital Art, so he IS breaking your rules!!!
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Dean, we had glitch on Zion's account. The system should have prevented him from posting any more in Novice category, but because of glitch the rectriction was not activated. We have informed him about this now and he will not post any more in Novice category.
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Pleased it's all sorted, i really wasn't trying to be nasty, I just want to help Pixoto get even better and that means encouraging more novices, not scaring them off with unfair competition! :) I <3 Pixoto!!!
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the problem is that after dozens, no, even hundreds of novice awards.. you would think Pixoto would say start using the 'big boy' categories... but looks like that is not going to happen. Denies Chua can have over 500 frigging awards and that is just fine.... he is still a novice because he wants to be. and he isn't the only one. makes a total joke of having a category for people to get started in. after a year or two you would think he would graduate. yes Denies... you can stay there, forever if you want... and Pixoto can continue to tolerate that.
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Actually Denies isn't a novice and has been asked not to post there any more because, according to the rules, he won an award in another category that disqualified from being a novice. He isn't really entitled to many of the novice awards he won since about January. Pixoto say its a glitch.
However there are others posting like him mostly or totally in the novice category, winning lots of awards and staying there because its easier to win awards there.
I agree Joyce, and have suggested it, that Pixoto draws a line on just how many awards you can get in Novice before having to move on.
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I'm sorry to say that while having a nosy at novice category I see more uploads that have been submitted by non-novices.
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
This won a #1 for the day and has awards in other categories.
I feel bad for actually novices, they don't stand a chance against these images
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Actually that one isn't cheating, well not in the same way, they are an amazing photographer, but if you check the dates they have not posted any novice photos since they got their awards!!!
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Looks like he posted his shots on the same day so was entitled to post one in the novice category.
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My bad I can now see that, however not sure I agree that he should have submitted to novice, looking at the quality of his photos, but I guess that's his prerogative.

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