Where is the logic - WRONG or RIGHT ?!

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Hello Jasenka Lukša Vujasić

Where is the logic - WRONG or RIGHT ?!

I am fully aware of the Category description. But I never exclude the possibility of error.
Most often it was shown that the category description that I realized misinterpreted by the report team and my photos were returned in the corresponding category - Nature Up Close, which I was inflicted damage by subtracting points and prizes.
Here it is quite clear that someone gives advantage at the expense of another. It is not fair, not fair to any contributors, not even to me.
I am aware that you have all the means in their hands, but harm the reputation of the gallery working in this way. I have only creativity that no one can take away, and your site contribute with very high-ranking photos.
Please, again, that in accordance with the rules that you have written on your site, apply the same rules to all contributors!
Also, please explain to me, where is the logic in the attached:
My re-categorized image:
- http://www.pixoto.com/images/45785679...

By other authors last week:
1. http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
2. http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
3. http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
4. http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
5. http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

Hope, you'll return my photo with all points which image has in the late afternoon to RIGHT category!
Thank you!
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I see the creature in your photo and it seems very much alive, while in the other photos I don't see any living creature. I'm sure Jasenka will help you get to the bottom of this but I'm wondering if that's the reason your photo was recategorized from Nature Up Close to Animals :-)
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Hi Lenore!
Could you see the creature in this photo - http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra....
These are still living creature if you like to open your eyes... maybe, this photo belonged to Animals - Others.
After few minutes, hope you'll see many photos which have to changed category!
Good luck and all best!
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Hello Masica, on your image subject is animal - snail so it was recategorized to Animal category.

On other links you posted subject is shell without animal and that is natural object it is not animal so it can be posted in Nature up close category.

I hope this helps.
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Hello Jasenka Lukša Vujasić!

Please, aswer me: Is here animal...maybe two animals - http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...?! How is possible that category description is now different than a month ago?!
Please, do something in category description so we - contributors can not make mistakes as this link shows

I hope that better description will help not only me, but to all contributors, and to you, too.

Have a great week ahead!
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You know, this photo was only posted today. Even if it was reported as being in the wrong category, I doubt the report team would get to it for a day or two :-)

Just my two cents, but I'd suggest being patient and seeing if it's still in this category in a few days :-)
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Hello Masica, please check our report policy here - http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...
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Hello Jasenka,
I check your report :-)

It's not heplful for everyone, although maybe good for some contributors! :-)

Thank You!
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Hello Jasenka Lukša Vujasić!

The category description is nowhere written that "Other natural object" belong to "Nature morte." This in other words means that the category description incomplete, imprecise written, unclear.
On the site it says - quote:
"Nature Up Close - Photos of plants, trees and other natural objects. Waterdrops on natural object or plant parts also belong here if the subject is waterdrop rather then object it is on. Natural objects modified from their natural form and belong Artistic objects category. Do not route landscapes or flowers here! If it's not a close up chances are it belongs and landscapes. Subcategories: Mushrooms & Fungi, Trees & Bushes, Sand, Rock & Stone, Water, Leaves & Grasses, Gardens & Produce, Webs, Hives & Nests, Other Plants, Other natural objects, Natural Waterdrops. "

Yes, indeed, I never saw that speaks only of shells ... well maybe I do not see ?! What does it mean "Other Natural Objects" - should be defined!

There are quite a lot of live objects to submitted images that have received weekly, monthly and annual prizes in the category "Nature Up Close."
Example, only one :http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
Is this shell or alive "other object", not only one but several objects !!!
Again, your evaluation criteria are not objective ... this is ridiculous and can not be of any help to me, nor any contributor.

Thank you for answer!
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Lenore,

Thank you for your answer.
It would be good, since so much worried about categorization and re-categorization to make sure that the assessment criteria reporters are equal for all, and also to do something to category description was clear, precise and unambiguous.

I hope this help you in future work!
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Hi Lenore!

Could you see any creature here?
(Category: Nature Up Close - Water)
- http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
Kindest regards!
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Hello Lenore!

Thank you for answer in my e-mail box. I should like to see the same answer here, because it would be helpful not only for me, but for other contributors who are looking for kindness and usefulness here, at our gallery.

But, I must ask you about again - it was last week: http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra... ... why Report Team share different criteria to different authors... this image (I like this image, for instance) is not lonely example...there are some more... therefore, something have to be changed in evaluation to which category image belongs. I think that if someone captured little insect at the plant (not eagle :-), for example) so close up, and category is NATURE UP CLOSE that is wrong deleted image. Insects are living in the plants or on the plants. Animals category is too wide, from elephant to lady bug, and as it was necessary to give special category for flowers, necessary is, also, to do something with animals (excepted dog & cats, all animals ( at ground, water, air are in the same category).
At least, I regard that category description must be changed to be clearly at the first what belongs there, what is wrong.I hope You'll do something good for all contrbutors here!
Thank You!

Wishing you a nice day!
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What I do agree with, as someone who only votes and reports, is that Pixoto should try to be more clear.
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Everyone has the right to agree or disagree.
I do not want altercation because the altercation does not lead to anything.
Wishing the same approach to all contributors!

Wishing debate based on arguments and arguments are either "category description" as cited, or objective criteria that should be taken by anyone who sends a report on the "Wrong Category". That means, again that category description have to be clear and accurately described, not that someone interprets the needs of the need - now this way, now on the other way. Thus, for example, Category "Landscapes" 'walking' in "Nature Up Close" because two or three trees in the landscape, taken from (at least) 1 km away are the "Trees & Bushes" at sunset, with mountain back, and water in the front, and so "Other Natural Objects"- sub-category of "Nature Up Close" (plant, water-drops, small snail of 8 mm in radius) sent to ANIMALS!
Report Team should have a clear and unambiguous criteria when take liberty to re-categorizing mages!
- Example 1: http://www.pixoto.com/images/45785679 - sent to Animals (because someone saw creature here, and
- Example 2: http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra... - very much alive creature and also alive waterlily.
There are many examples, but I haven't time - time is very worth.

That's all!
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Hello Masica, is subject is shell of snail (not snail - animal) then it can be posted in Nature up close category since it is natural object.

If the subject of image is animal (snail) then its proper category is Animal category.

If you feel image is in incorrect category please report it using report button on image detail page.

I hope this helps.
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Hello Jasenka Lukša Vujasić!

How can you determine whether snail is alive or only shell... there is a special CT on which I have not read?!

Is it necessary to even prove how different criteria applied to the various contributors ?!
There are many links as argument on my side!

Mrs. Jasenka Lukša Vujasić, you may know what I'm talking better than me. These are, indeed, funny and explanations at the level of the intelligent children of 7 years (or even lower).

Please type in the category description Nature Up Close - subcategory - "Other Natural Objects" (on the site Pixoto) that only objects that are in the sphere of "Nature morte" belong there, as contributors would not confuse in the future, if your report is accurate. If I find it very rapidly in the category description, I will consider that you acted correctly (because the category description does not exclude any other natural object- according to the logic that the interpretative sense there), and if not it will be proof that some people, depending on subjective measures apply other criteria.

I'm sorry that my logic forte was, and remains, and, among others, the subject of which I managed to work dozens of years.
Please respect the rules that Pixoto Team wrote at site and apply the same rules to me and to all the other equally, because you are a person who by "logic", based on the same, should be made proper judgments.

Report button is true for some but not for all ... and this is another major problem which you need to look in eyes!

Thanks for the reply!

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