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My suggestion is that the management really contemplated seriously the future of the Community Contests overall. Are they really necessary? What do they bring to Pixoto? You can clearly see a trend that serious photographers are dropping out one by one from even participating in them anymore (or voting for them) and some quit Pixoto altogether because multiple problems with the site. There are many treads on the Community page concerning these matters, but it seems that we members are left alone with our problems and nothing is done by the management to correct the situation.
I would go so far as to say that these futile contests are destroying Pixoto's professional brand. Is that what Pixoto is aiming for? With all due respect, you really have to come up with a solution concerning both the voting algorithm, random/bias voting and futile, multiple Community Contest running simultaneously asap.
Sincerely, Mia Ikonen
Jasenka, please send this off to Jason. Please have someone from development or management team (which seems to be the same team anyways) answer in this thread. Personally I would like to know
1) What's going on with the voting lately, why is it slow and inconsistent and what is being done about it except useless weekly emails asking to vote.
2) Since contests are the bottleneck, what's being done to solve this issue long-term?
3) Why Pixoto does not want to drop weekly cash prize? Isn't it obvious that many people are submitting very similar images (yet not similar by Pixoto definition) just to get the money?
I too have rarely voted lately, not even after the mentioned email, and the way things are going it is becoming even bothersome to submit any new photo's as they stall very quickly. So, what's the fun on Pixoto these days?
My idea John, is to go on holidays for a week or so and hope when i`m back it will be better! :-)
Where it used to be a thrill to see my images score in the 700's, I now pray they make it into the 600's. Perhaps my photography has lessened in quality and that is why it is not as well received as it has been for the last three years. I like to think it's something else, and, for me, it all goes back to the endless challenges on which we have to vote. There are, of course, voting irregularities, the biased voting, the family members and friends voting, etc., but I don't see any clear way Pixoto can do anything about that. They can do something about the challenges, but they don't. And to be honest, for the first time in three and a half years on this site, the thrill is gone. And that's sad.
We have suggested multiple times ways of dealing with these problems. Frankly I think now the only thing to do to keep Pixoto credible and stop you losing any more members is to remove the community challenges totally.
For example: (these challenges currently are running
Submission Deadline: 7/10/2015
Winners Announced: 7/15/2015
Images Entered: 1,461
Votes Allocated: 10,227
Votes Cast: 6,005
10.227 votes are allocated here that need to finish before the 15th
ANIMALS OF ALL KIND
Submission Deadline: 7/9/2015
Winners Announced: 7/16/2015
Images Entered: 1,399
Votes Allocated: 9,793
Votes Cast: 5,464
9793 Votes are needed here before the 16th
These are only two examples of the dozens floating around devouring all the votes.
Submission of mine of a week ago have got around 50 to 60 votes only whereas a year ago it would have passed 100 within 2 days.
Also there is a "weirdness" in the pattern of voting at the moment. Images seem to stall after a max of about 10 to 20 votes when wins/losses balance out. 10 wins against 9 losses e.g.
In the past, if it stayed that low, even after resubmitting, it meant you just had a so-so image. Basically it happens to about every picture now. A few months ago I still tried for the 700's but as Reno and John Larson have stated, it is now difficult to get out of the 400's, let alone the 500's.
They also know that of the 100,000 plus members on this site a very small percentage participate, or even read what's going on here in the Community forum. They also know that when those of us who don't want to settle for low scores on our work, will have to resubmit our images, which, of course, costs us credits. So the question is: is Pixoto all about money and the members be damned? There's nothing wrong with an online site being in business to make money, but when it completely overshadows the interests of it's members, it's time to pack your bags and go home.
A few days ago, I won #1 for the day in Animals with a score of 672. In the past, that score would have barely made top 5%. Three days ago, I won three of the top ten awards for the day (#4, 7, and 9). The last two awards were in the low 600's! Absurd!
We, as proactive members, need to stop bitching about challenges and voting and INSIST Pixoto do something about it! One member recently said he was going on vacation, indicating he was taking a break from the site, and that he hoped things would improve when he got back, yet he is still submitting images to the contest. And therein lies the crux of the problem and why Pixoto does nothing to solve it. They know they have us, those of us who like to compete, who like to see how our work stacks up against the best photographers on this site, who like having that feeling of accomplishment when we are rewarded with a top ten placement for the day or week or month. They know they have us when we posture on this board that we are taking a break or that we are quitting the site. They know that that very rarely actually happens. And those who do leave and have done well in the past, when we didn't have these multitude of obscure and childish challenges, eventually come back, because this site, despite all it's faults and inequities, is addictive!
It's time Dr. Pixoto gave it's struggling and addictive patients a REAL prescription, something that will give us some hope about the future of this site, and that they will finally listen to what it's patients are saying.
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