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Hi Sherry

Can you look at these 2 photo's, they are the same with a different background pasted through the window and then cropped to look different

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
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Hi Bill,

Thank you for your report.While the pose is the same there are significant changes to the background, so it really doesn't fall under similar images.
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Sherry, You are sitting on the fence. Ignore the window view for the moment. The pose is the similar, because it is the same image which has been cropped.

On the Pixoto rules page there are 2 images of a winter scene. The difference is one picture is cropped.

http://blog.pixoto.com/no-very-simila...

This is what you say about the 2 images......."The above images are considered Similar Images because it is a Zoom or Crop of the same scene. The angle of the shot is the same"

Now i would like to address you second point:

On the Pixoto rules page there are 2 images of a bowl of fruit. The difference is a change in background...same bowl.

http://blog.pixoto.com/no-very-simila...

This is what you say about the 2 images......."These images are considered Similar Images and not allowed because the position of the plate and fruit are exactly the same, only the background has changed"

I want to see pixoto as a vibrant site with new ideas not replicated images

Will
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Just to clarify, Sherry, because you know it's going to come up now...I could conceivably take my top voted shot, or any other shot for that matter that I have already submitted, change the bg and submit it as a new entry, and that would be consistent with Pixoto's rules?
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Does that only work when the second entry is digital art? I think this has come up before... you can enter a portrait- and then significantly alter it in a fantasy way or something and make it digital art- but not again as a portrait (or whatever orginal category)???
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I don't think so Sandara. I have a field in landscape:

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

and I added a scarecrow to the shot using the rule of thirds and submitted to digital images. But the scarecrow version has been deemed to be too similar today and removed from digital images. Fair enough. I'll be deleting the field and resubmitting the scarecrow version later today as I think the deleted one was the better version. (I'd forgotten about the field actually).

I also had a monocrome version of a colour shot removed of a church though, and I know I'm allowed black and white or monocrome versions of my pics under the rules so I've queried the removal of that one. (I don't add monocrome versions a lot but I loved that church.)
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Actually about monocrome version you are wrong....

As quoted from rules:

"NO VERY SIMILAR IMAGES: You may submit an unlimited number of images but each one must be significantly different from the others. This means only one image of any subject and scene/pose combination is allowed (e.g. either b/w or color - not both). You may however delete an image and resubmit it at any time. If reported, and we agree that the images are not distinct enough, the newer image will be deleted. This is critical for keeping the Pixoto community vibrant, exciting and fun (note - this rule effective 6/1/2012)."

It was alowed before June 2012, but it is not alowed since then. Just one version is alowed.
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Correct Jasenka :) Jenette, it may have been that you submitted both images under the same category? Submit the scarecrow version in Digital Art.
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Hi everyone, I will check with Jason and see what he has to say on the topic.
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Hello again everyone, so I wanted to let you know that I received clarification, we DO allow components from a photo that has already been submitted to be used in the creation of digital art and submitted as a separate image. So Sandra was correct above, if the newly created image is in Digital Art is it allowed.
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Sherry, you (Pixoto) should better change the rule page then, and the link for simmilar images example, because there it is saying it is not alowed...

http://blog.pixoto.com/no-very-simila...

"These images are considered Similar Images and not allowed because the position of the plate and fruit are exactly the same, only the background has changed."
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The two fruit images were submitted in the same category, not as digital art, but we could probably point that out, I will try to get the change made a little later in the week. Thank you for pointing out the change was needed Jasenka. :)
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No problem Sherry :)

Well actually, come to think of it, the problem persist, since nowhere is said that it is alowed if the other is submitted in Digital art category. And nowhere is stated that those 2 example photos are in the same category. It just said it is not alowed (it doesn't metter in which category). So that clearly need to be changed.

Just wanted to make this crystal clear ;)

I know I'm sometimes the pain in the gluteus maximus :P
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We are all just very detail oriented Jasenka...lol.
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Jasenka I will make it specific when I get it updated. ;) and no you are not a pain, I love how dedicated you all are :)
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15 days later and in the rules page is still the same....

It is still not allowed to use components from a photo that hase been uploaded in anoder work in Digital art section :)

Just remember that not all members read forum... well not a lot of members read rules, but some who do ( :) ) will get wrong information...
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And I've just now tried with explorer (always go to pixoto with firefox) and I still se the same text, weather I'm logged out or after I log in...
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I guess it didn't update, it should be there now.
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Yap, it is now :)

Thank you :)
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YAY :D lol sorry it took so long to get it done
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Is ok Sherry :)
People (at least some who read ther rules /few as they are :D / ) need to read in the rules what is ok and what is not. At least you will get less reports ;)
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Sherry, sorry to bother you again, but I need a little more clarification on this metter :)

Regarding....

*Please note, components from a photo or photos that have already been submitted can be used in the creation of digital art and submitted as a separate image, if the newly created image is in Digital Art.*

My question is how many work made from component of a photo can be submitted in Digital art category?

For instance, is this alowed?

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

and

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

and

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

Tis is only one example is this togs folio, he has numerous sparrow combination :)

If this is alowed, what is the maximum numbers of Digital art photos made from part of previously submitted photo?

Or it should be only 1 photo in "normal" category, and 1 in Digital art?

Thnx :)
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I reported this in another thread too Jasenka.

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