Serious question about posting...uh, stuff.....

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Could someone explain why a person would post two or three really good photographs, then post another 10 or 12 which are..uh....not so good...every night in the same category? I am really asking this in all honesty. I see beautiful work by an individual, then he/she posts a huge amount of pictures which are obviously of not the same caliber. And when I say that, it is not my taste speaking...I am talking about out-of-focus, half-framed, cut-off, over/under exposed to the point of not recognizing them, etc. I am really trying to understand the tactic or thought process involved. Does it run up points? Does it ensure a higher position at the end of the day? I am not sure of the answer. Thanks.
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in order to win CASH, there needs to be a minimum number of entries per day... padding the entries with crap helps that, so does entering mis-categorized ones, they will be removed or moved by Pixoto eventually. enter a couple of good entries that MAY win, add crap that won't, get friends or fake accounts that add ones that have watermarks or wrong categories and you pad the numbers.
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My only guess here would be that this person is trying to add to the total amount of posted photos in the category so that at the end of the week the total number of images would be over 1000. That is the threshold for getting money award if your photo wins. So the good one he/she posts gets a chance at winning the prize and the bad ones are just there for the numbers. Once the week is over and awards are assigned, he or she will probably just dump all the bad ones or recycle them for the next week.

Other than that I don't know why someone would do this.
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see below
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Like I said, that is cheating...Ban them...
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Yep, 19 of 44 this morning. A couple good (complete with 3-month old comments, but somehow just submitted today....) , and a bunch just plain...well, not of the same caliber. And so it goes...
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Thank you! I have watched the Transportation category for quite some time now and am starting to get a feeling that was probably what it was all about. I would imagine if cash prizes were removed, a LOT of bad pictures would never see the light of day... I would think the fine folks at Pixoto would catch on to this if only because the 'entrant' keeps making his 'subscription fee' back quickly using this formula, makes additional money off of Pixoto, and causes Pixoto to lose membership from those who will not renew due to this type behavior. Am I close? And Joyce, your term "crap" adequately describes what I would like to say...except there are days I feel mine may not be much better...LOL. And DVA, yes, they are recycled as the comments from 9 months to 2 years earlier are still attached to the photo--even though it shows it was just submitted. Silly game.....
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If someone is doing that.....They should be banned...
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I doubt they will looking at past performance and awards. It does, however, take away from the spirit of things. Thanks Len :)
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Agreed
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http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to... this is my posting and question that relates to this same subject... I smell some nasty stuff being covered up.
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Point taken. The person in my example is a "Photographer of the Year"-type. If all of this holds true, I see why. Racking up points for hollow victories means nothing to me. Frankly, he has taken all of the fun out of the daily competition. I am not sure that is what the site designers had in mind... Seems to me they would want more people who enjoy the thrill of competition than a few who abuse the system (if, in fact, that's what it is.) I guess it is worth to him to have some banner above his name as an advertising gimmick, but I find it also a sad commentary on what he thinks his abilities really are. I know there are many others out there who do much the same. After all, one can only hone their "special shot" just so many times before it gets old. At least to those who came to this site to compete and have fun, anyway. Like clockwork, I will bet if you check transportation between 8PM and midnight, you will see no less than 15 images uploaded by the same person. And many will have "Good job!" comments on them from months ago. Yet they will still show they were just uploaded today..... Oh well, it's not my site or my rules. I am free to come and go. I get it. I just hate to think of all those who may have already left who had truly interesting things to offer...and that we could have learned from. I just read another very good photographer's request to have his account shut down.
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Steve Tharp, right? If that's who you are talking about, then this whole theory does not really hold true, since he never won weekly number 1 spots. If you look at his profile the best he has is daily number 1. So in his case, I am not sure why he would be doing this.
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Maybe it's not for the money but for the points - the more pictures, the more points. that's the only thing I can come up with
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Now, DVA, you see why I am SO confused...... You always have good responses as to how these things work. Oh, and I cannot confirm nor deny names...lol. I guess it's a point thing....maybe? Dunno.
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Again, I don't think it's a money thing per se.....What I do see, however, after looking into what you suggested (never thought of that) there are a lot of Top 5% for the Year, Month, and week. It's a points thing....yes? I can only wish to have a Top Photographer of the Year banner one day. That would be neat!
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Yes, it could be points thing as well. The more images you have in the category, the more points you get. Not only 1 through 10, but also top 5%, 10% and 20%. And number of images for a given day affects where your better image lands. By submitting additional images you can "move" your best photo from say top 20% to top 10%, or from top 10% to top 5%. With new Pixoto rules you can easily get into top 20 photogs of the year if you have some good images that get 600+ scores. I got that banner last year from 2 different categories and I only submitted 60 or so images over the year. So it's not really about quantity, but rather quality. Unfortunately, if the quality is not that good, you can also get it by quantity - submit as many photos as you can and some of them will eventually get you points, especially when you are Pro and therefore guaranteed 100 duels for every image.
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I play in many (almost all) categories - so, if I post in the Boudoir category (for example), I know that it usually has to be the number one picture of the day in order to win points (because so few people play there). Sometimes that it is true for Digital Art. "People" on the other hand will get points for top 10, 5%, etc. I'm guessing that posting the bad quality pictures is to boost the numbers. The bad thing about posting a bunch of crap (besides the cheating part and the just-being-weird part) is that you are showing your bad work. Even the best photographers take bad pictures but I'm not going to share those! If something tanks right off the bat, I take it down because I feel like it must suck and I didn't know it.
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Thanks. Both answers really helped!

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