Separate category for extreme macro insects

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PLEASE GIVE INSECTS A SEPARATE CATEGORY!!! Especially those extreme macro shots of the highly magnified multiple eyes and tiny hairs on flies, spiders and bees. That's a very different kind of photography than the photos of other animals, and it doesn't seem fair to have them competing against birds and mammals. If domestic dogs and cats have their own separate categories, why not bugs? I'm not even sure butterflies belong in the same category with the extreme macro/micro insects. Maybe a separate category for extreme macro/micro would work to separate them from the other wildlife.

And while we're on the subject, I'd like to see the animal categories separated to keep the snakes and lizards from dueling against the birds and the furry critters. Maybe divide it according to feathers, fur and scales? What does everybody else think?
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I agree.

I think insects and spiders should be a separate catagory with sub categories like: bees and wasps; beetles and bugs; butterflies and moths; flies, damsel, dragon, etc.; macro/supermacro=greater than 1:1 magnefication; spiders and scorpions; other.

I think it would get a lot more variety.
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Agreed - but I would take it one step further and suggest a full macro category with a variety of sub-categories including e.g.:
- insects
- spiders
- birds / eggs / nests / eyes / feathers
- mammals / skin / hair / eyes
- reptiles / skin / scales / eyes
- other animals
- flower detail
- seeds and seed detail
- leaves and leaf detail
- other plants / bark / moss / etc.
- technology
- minerals / sand / stone /
- water and things to do with water
- other - i.e. if you used a macro lens but don't believe it fits in any of the other categories...
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Dear Pixoto Team
Here are just some of the threads directly requesting a Macro category
http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...
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Others mention it but are not specifically devoted to the topic.

As mentioned in http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...
over 60% of the top 100% of all time photos in the insect and spider category can be classified as macros YET only 4 macros are in the top 100 (all time) animals category - which means macro togs are not being given the fair deal, and those photographing "whole" insects are being relatively excluded.

PLEASE! - sorry - I mean please...
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I totally agree, as well, as you have referenced, above, my suggestion of 3 months ago to make macro and extreme macro a separate category. At that time, Jason responded with this: "It doesn't seem like extreme macros have enough quantity to justify a category of their own. So I'm torn."

A quick count of what I felt were macro and extreme macro shots entered just yesterday in the animal category and then comparing this to the entries in the Cats and Dogs category were as follows: Animals - 90/315 entries, Cats - 45 entries, Dogs - 60entries.

The number of macro entries yesterday in Animals was twice that of Cats and 1/3 more than dogs, so from a cursory view, I don't really think the argument that there would not be enough quantity to justify a separate macro category really doesn't hold water anymore, and deserves consideration in the new year.
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Thank you Trey! Well put!
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"Insects on flowers and plants" might be a good subcategory for nature up close. Then have a separate "Super macro" category for anything magnefied.
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I like the idea of the subcategory for flowers and plants with insects on them

But glad you are also keen for the extreme macro category as a stand alone category!
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Oh - and we would also need a separate sub-category in Nature up close for flowers with water drops on them... heh heh heh!

In the meantime - the extreme macro category is really needed!

Is there anyone who DOESN'T want a stand alone Macro category?
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Right now 13 of the top 15 insects and spiders subcategory for this week (which is almost over) would be classified as extreme macros - and nine of these fall into the top 100 of animals - i.e. only one non-macro insect making it into the top 100 of animals...
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Agreed, it's getting very difficult to do anything in insects unless it is an extreme macro.
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This month so far ... 8 insect and spider photos in the top 100 of the "animals" category - of which 6 are extreme macros...

Pretty please Pixoto!
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I have followed this thread very closely--and agree with the requests stated above. The macro category, especially when it comes to insects on flowers, is a hard one to peg in the Nature category--and doesn't fly in the flowers category--excuse the pun! Many of my floral images have insects on them--can't help it! That is what insects are attracted to, after all--and I do love macro!

I don't like to see my butterflies competing against lions and tigers or other furballs! And I have seen so many extreme macro shots--which make it interesting but tough in the insects and spiders categories. Please add on the categories! There are so many participating on this site--can't hurt!
Thanks!!
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Bump!
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Hummm... I don't know.... I've been away from pixoto for a little while. Now I've come back and submitted one bird photo a few minutes ago. I just took a look at the duels and found it competing against extreme macro bugs again...and tigers. Then I looked at the insect category with the idea of submitting another one of my butterflies and found that sub category still dominated by extreme macro bug eyes. So now I'm feeling like there's really no point in submitting my best photos to this site. Looking at the monthly charge on my credit card bill during this heavy shopping season, I'm questioning exactly why I'm paying for a membership...and asking myself exactly what I'm getting for my money. And I'm wondering exactly how many of my photos they would have to sell as stock photos for me to recoup the membership fees that I've already paid -- if any of them actually ever sell. Although it's true that the other stock agencies pay almost nothing for my images when they sell, at least I'm not paying for a membership, so I'm not losing money on the deal -- I'm just not making any. So my hope is rapidly fading and I'm feeling a very steep drop in my motivation to continue my participation in this site (especially as a paid member.) Can anybody offer any words of encouragement that would sway me in the direction of continuing to throw away my images here? Maybe I should have posted this as a new topic. Maybe I still will....
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The extreme macro bug eyes need to be in a separate category Jan, along with other macros.

The phrase in your original post "Maybe a separate category for extreme macro/micro would work to separate them from the other wildlife"

is key...
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D. Jan Anderson... drop your pro account...if you dont post a ton of photos... it is easy enough to just do a few duels and boost the photos.. I dropped my membership a while ago... but you do have to be willing to do some duels so you can boost the photos as they need to be boosted to get your 100 votes, which is what I boost till I get to that level then just leave it alone after that. If you only post one or two photos at a time it works fine.. but if you do more than that, it would be mega time consuming to keep boosting.
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Okie dokie then...

Would it be possible to split the animals category into two separate categories...

Vertebrates (mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, etc) and invertebrates (snails, insects, spiders, etc.)

Please...
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The Mobile category is dominated by extreme macro bugs too. I guess I'll have to invest in some of those stick on lenses for my mobile phone. Maybe if there were a macro/extreme macro category, they could enter their images there and possibly win cash prices.
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At present, around 65% of the all time top 100 images in animals - insects and spiders subcategory comprises extreme macro bugs. This total is probably rather higher since many of the remaining 35% were probably taken with a macro lens.

Of these. only four feature in the top 100 in the animals category.

Please provide a separate category for extreme macro... Please!
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out of curiosity.. HOW do they get the very extreme closeup of the bugs eyes.. I have a decent macro lens but it doesn't do that?.... what are they using to get that extreme? those screw on magnifiers?? I wondered at one time if they were using a low powered microscope, so many of them have built in camera abilities and send the photos to your computer... just curious as to how it is done ? ... so much I don't know about photography... learning, learning, learning...
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JoAnn, if you google Canon lense MP 65 E (in my wish list for a while, sigh) you can see that that can be done by that lense...

Some people (I've tried it myself) use reverse rings for macro photography (you can reverse and attach the lense on body of camera, ore reverse and attach the lense on another lense). That also givs you better magnification. If you type "reverse lens macro" in google, you will get the picture how its done :)
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thanks Jasenka... it is such a intense magnification .. going to google right now and read about it................ and don't ya just love wish lists!
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Putting up the same request I have posted Separately........

I Feel it is high time a separate category is made for Macros especially bugs and insects. I place most of my Macros in Abstract with sub category Macro, and what do you know almost all are reported and category is changed to Animals and sub Category insects and Spiders.......

for Macro lovers like me it is a huge let down.........

I wish something could be done here as I see a lot of Macro shots placed in this section.........

Really astonishing that you have a category Of Dogs running, kicking, smiling What not ..........instead of a real genuine Genre like Macros

REAL SAD THAT THREE OF MY IMAGES POSTED IN ABSTRACT MACRO CHANGED TO INSECTS AND SPIDERS CATEGORY..........

THANK YOU ... I HAVE DELETED ALL THREE ..........
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Yay! thank you Aroon!

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