Real photos have a hard time making top 10.

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Hard to compete with pictures that are Photoshop. Most of the top 25 pictures are played with.
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E. Giupponi

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Jason, to tell the photoshop people here are not allowed to use photo-stock, only our own, you are just being ridiculous. You are excluding, abusing, exploring those blind people who don't have the brains to think what is going on here. This week, I will have my attorney to take a look on this webiste policy, and give me his opinion. You are being away arbritrary. Besides, Pixoto's website has a policy that says that you own every picture we uploading here, and it has a Photoshop category, and it says anythng about Photoshop Experts not being allowed in here. We can't even have our signature on our work. I think is time to you to STOP fooling everybody in here and tell the TRUTH. You are purits, this is clear. At least Sarah admitted so, I appreciate her honesty. I have no problem and don't participate and be among some, not all, unfamed people, who are totally blind, and are still not realizing how many gaps are in this website. At least, BF Clark said something on the big failure on the way people chances are to win any award here, The fight is not be directed to me, instead, it should be redirected to this administration, who are responsible to make people here waste their time, and in the end, the program failure will take place, anyone could win here, the talented ones or not. Streigh yourself up, Jason, slowly, if someone like BF Clark and Carlos Castro realize what is going on here with all the failures in this website, YOU ARE DONE. I have already forward this problem to someone who will make build a more concrete opinion about what is going on here. In my opinion, I think everybody is being big fool of this website.
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E. Giupponi

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And if this is a not fun place to be, is because you allow this 'feedback' bs, to be the bad apple on this website. Start working on upgrade of this website crooked policy, the ignorant ones my be blind, but the smart ones here, will open their eyes and see exactly what is happening here. Even the Gary contest, it doesn't even has a deadline, and almost everybody keep on uploading their picture. If you didn't change the policy yet, everybody can read where it says, after we upload our pictures, it will belong to Pixoto's. Instead of focusing on the artwork I post here, you should OPEN YOUR EYES. I was suppose to plan a trip, and I wasted my time in here, fighting with the ignorants ones, except JoLynn, who is smarted and know the reality in here.
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I'm just someone who is trying to get better in life, in everyway. I have made mistakes, irresponsible many times, but I have changed for the past few years, and I'm very proud to be someone who try to see how impostant Photoshop Artists work really is, and I'm volutarely offering to teach what I know about Photoshop. I'm deleting my account, but before, I need to confirm one last thing to Jason,

Can you really say that you never stated in your policy, that once Pixoto receive our pictures, Pixoto owns every single image uploaded in here? Come one, grow up and tell the truth to everybody, they all, including me, deserve better than that.
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It's stated clearly, very CLEARLY, that your images are YOUR images, Giuponi. Pixoto DOES NOT OWN THEM. You're probably talking about facebook, not Pixoto.
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E. Giupponi

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Tell us what is the real purpose behind of owning a website like this. A few people already know the answer, they are just watching and hoping positively and patiently, you start streighting things up on this crooked program that runs this beautiful website. Not everybody is inpotent or stuped to let you do whatever you whant, some will rise up against the ridiculous situation you let us get into it. It will be an rastle to figure out how to delete my account in here, so, go ahead and delete it for me. You will still have time to gossip with the others. As I said a few hours ago, SO LONG PALS, I have no time to waste giving explanations, I haven't done anything wrong. It's just favoritism, discrimination, negligency, and so on...
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Justin Kifer, Official Rep

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Let's put this issue to bed. Please review our Terms of Use before claiming we "own" any user submitted content. WE DO NOT.

http://www.pixoto.com/terms

About mid-page, you will we very clearly indicate the following:

"You retain the copyright in any User Content you post on the Site. Pixoto neither has nor wants any ownership of your Content. However, by uploading and/or posting any User Content to the Site, you grant Pixoto a perpetual, nonexclusive and royalty-free right to use the User Content and the name that is submitted in connection with such User Content, as is reasonably necessary to display the User Content, rank the content using ImageDuels, provide the Services and to facilitate, at Content Owner's direction, the license of Images or the sale of Products on the Site."

We have no right to your images except to display them on Pixoto. The only time we would sell your images is if you authorize us to do so.

As for not posting our rules, we very clearly post some of our most important rules at the upper left of the image submission form. Here they are:

"No watermarks or personally identifiable borders
Images must be JPG or PNG
Image should have at-least 900px width or height
Place compiled images in Photoshop Art
You must own the image
Each image must be sumbitted only once"

There are of course other rules that are listed on the contest page of the site and we reserve the right to add or change rules as is necessary to maintain the integrity of the community.
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E. Giupponi

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You changed the policy. What you don't know, is that everything we do on the internet, is goes to a permanent database, and it NEVER DELETES, is a databank with global information, that istay there forever. My attorney will tell me exactly what is the situation. Even if I dont sue this website, I have never done that, but at least, I want the piece of mind that myself and a few more, knows SOMETHING VERY WRONG IS BEHIND ALL THIS.
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E. Giupponi

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If I made mistakes here, those are beginners mistakes, you should have contacted me or give me a warning advertency, instead, you both decide to listen to the ignorant and jelousy bums who have nothing better to do, than be here in a daily basis, trying to take down artists of my caliber. You may need me, I don't need you and don't want any participation on this croocked situation you are creating and condoning. GOODBYE.
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E. Giupponi

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I'm not here because of the money, Tell us how you are making money on top of everybody. Those blind people who don't realize what you doing, because all they can think, is about the stuped award you offer. The wrong direction this website may take, (and I hope it changes for better son, for the sake of the good ones here), I preffer not even mention Pixoto's name, just in case if you let us down sometime in future, and honeslty speaking up frankly, I think you will screw us up, you are already doin it.
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Well this is the problems of running your own web site I guess.

Yes maybe some people are ranting and raving (including myself). I think that would be your responsibility. Not clear in the rules, language problems, big F.... personalities,

Are you having a good time yet?

I applaud your ambition, to a point,

I side with E to the extent that most of the big winners here are cheating...one way or another.

So so la la

It is a Swiss expression.
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JoLynn Dillion

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delete me
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E. Giupponi

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JoLynn, You made a point too. I'm getting tired and going to bed. I'm going to Europe after the holidays, first Italy, perhaps we could meet somewhere for a couple coffee or Swiss champagne. I'm going to Arosa, I have a friend there who owns a nice hotel, and I'm spending an weekend there. From Italy, I'll fly to Miami, where I'm settle for the last past 23yrs. Contact me from Facebook, I don't want to come back here, it's too stressing, and for me, at this point, a total waste of time. It was a pleasure to come across you, JoLynn, good luck in your career, you are very talented, I love you artwork.
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E. Giupponi

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Pictures tells a thousend words... mine tells a million, too bad some couldn't deal with it. I'm an advertiser expert as well, will spread the word about this website, and how you are administrating it. Good luck!

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Justin Kifer, Official Rep

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We are making absolutely no money at this point. Quite the contrary. We've spent a great deal of money building Pixoto over the course of this year. But that is an investment and we hope to make money someday.

We have a new product coming out in the next week or two that may not only make us some money, but also the Players that have submitted some of the best images on Pixoto! We have already made arrangements with certain Players regarding this product and everyone will hear about it soon enough.

We have a variety of other products in the works that will become available in the coming months. I can assure you that if any of our products involve monetizing anything with relation to the sale of any images on Pixoto, each Player will have the right to opt-in to participate and will make money along with Pixoto.
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JoLynn Dillion

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Yes of course this makes sense now and why this can never be an objective site. You wouldn't dare to chasten your top money makers. So they can get away with whatever.

Please delete my account.
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JoLynn Dillion

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Kind of suspect that you can't even delete your own account.

Good Bye
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E. Giupponi

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You are just saying that, as fast as you changed the policy here. You guys are playing with some people who has IQ's above the normal, don't try any demagogy, at this point, the foolish would get greed again like puppies, and the others will charge you for this comment, and take this as a promise, or use it against you in future, if you don't honor what you are saying.
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E. Giupponi

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Can you tell us all you are already using real-time when we upload something, or when we are just using the system?? Do you know this is hacking? Tell I'm wrong, so I'll have to prove I'm right.
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E. Giupponi

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Are you getting rid of the real-time in this website and have more respect with our privacy?? There is someone who selects the pictures for the dueling, they even post the pair of pictures like a border history, and a program wouldn't do that. I have been noticing this, and some other things going on. I got this conclusion because based on my own statistcs, certain things are happening with consistence, more than coincidence. Certain coincidences happening with this website program are happening with consistence, therefore, they become FACT. Slowly, everybody is realizing and figuring out, one thing after other. Don't underestimate people, big lieaders have already done that, and they all fall. You are not a big leader yet, so, it's very imprudent to NOT underestimate anyone here, even the blind ones.
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E. Giupponi

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I'm an IT person, I know what you doing. I'm not going to take actions against you, I would win and hurt you baddly. I don't harm people, but I don't let they play with me either, or anyway that I may don't know personaly, but I appreciate their talent. If this website administration don't improves, someone other than me, will take their time to take proper actions against all the wrong things going on here. I'm just too busy planing a trip and creating more art, to spend another day with your irresponsability, but I'll take my time to listen my attorney's oppinion, I want the satisfaction to confirm that I"m right, and you guys are deadly wrong. Did you get any governmental loan to buld this, or what is really going on here, I want to everyone knows what you are irresponsably really doing, and what is the reason behind it.
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This is great comedy!

No-one is that screwed up to discuss attorneys etc on a website that is just there for great entertainment and enjoyment. Or are they??

It has simple rules, what's the issue with following them? Some people need to maybe get out from behind their computer screens and realise there is a real world out there and live a proper life.

Justin and crew, there's always going to be one or two bad apples in an online community when it is popular and grows, accept that is part of the success and don't let it deter from the great site and community you have developed.
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Thanks Darrin. We won't let it get us down! It is a bit of a distraction though... :(
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Ring ring:

"Hello. is that my attorney?'

"Yes, how can I help you"

"I have this extremely important matter that must be cleared up, you see there is this website that allows you to put your photos up, they have simple rules, it's a lot of fun but I want to do my own thing, can we take this to the Supreme Court and fight my cause?"

"Er, sure, sure we can, I will get the case prepared now. Now what's the best address to send my bill to?"

Attorney hangs up and is very happy, he was wondering how to pay for his daughter's private school fees this term.

"Thank God there are enough morons in this world to keep my bank balance ticking over" he thinks to himself..... "now if I can just get her to go to McDonalds and spill a hot coffee on her lap, I will get that new Porsche I had my eye on."
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Thank you..I really needed that laugh. Great post Darrin
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I'm actually totally lost now about what she is saying.She photoshops pics very well but sadly they are not her pictures, whether they are in the public domain or not she cannot claim she actually went out with her camera and took them.Also there are shots with very little photoshopping entered in the topics, again taken from the internet, not taken by her.This seems to be the simple crux of the matter....
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mg.
.james bond in pixotoooo ooo
he catch girl he find links..what sad situation.
1/ in your link with "original" authors is no name of that person , so that can be even that lady from brasil
2. if she eventually used for photoshop royality free images so what?/ i will sent to her all my photos because i am not hysterically connected with my photography works as are some here
3. pixoto is game of 3 guys which like to got many pictures of nude or not nude womans but they cover that with artistic approach as is : alghoritam"
4. once some maked jokes about chimp which easy paint when they gave him colors..my latest idea is to give cam to chimp and than publsih his photos as well, because and chimp can make photography too...not so big deal

5. all above is to say to all..do not make hystery about photography..less or more in 99 % is pure visual game in 1 % is near to be art....
6.jastin and company probably had idea to sell pictures of naked ladies and we rest are just coverage for their idea, which can bring to them money as welll...so, all in all i posted pictures which arent my best ones but was glad to show in 350 works part of balcan life and broke few stupid prejudice
7. this girl from Brasil is in right...she need to stop posting pictures here because pixoto is average fun for average minds
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Cue Mr. Serling
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IF this is a photography site i do think that the work should at least being with and be no less than 50% original.....i have seen a few folks admittedly using anothers work (with permission) and things called posers and tubes to create an entirely new image, i think that can be amazing....but not sure thats for a photography site? even one with a photoshop category....to me photoshop is using layers with your own photo being the primary focus....adding a shadow or light or butterfly, whatever to add seems to me to be enhancing what is there, making the people, horses, waterfalls etc...that are the focus of the work almost 90% seems like there should be a different kind of site that could go in. dont get me wrong, i love photoshop and those that do it so well are amazing, not jealous....just not sure where to draw the line or who should be the one drawing it....its too hard to tell sometimes....
just wanted to say i admire those that dont have to do anything to their work and those that can photoshop their butts off too....i think that pixoto has the potential to be an excellent site...just needs time to work out the kinks!
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I saw an image on Pixoto last night that was just a straight-on photograph of a painting in a museum (not even showing the frame, wall, or setting). The image was simply the content of the painting.
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Yes -I saw that too Ken! I was in the imagedual and two pictures of pictures (mobile phone category) came up. I just shook my head and pressed 'skip', as I didn't think either of them should be judged.

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