Pure photo?

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I am seeing a lot of photos in the PURE category when it is easy to see that the photo is cut and then pasted/layered to a different background. Is that still considered PURE-to me that is a composite and should not be in the PURE category?
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Although there is strictly no pure "category", and so far (at least I haven't seen it so far) they haven't actually given any awards based on being a pure photo- I think it influences voting if people mistakenly believe an image is pure... (and don't know the photoshop techniques required).
Just report it on the actual picture as "not a pure photo" and usually pixoto deals with it quickly.
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Sandra....if you go to the category section under the definition of the PURE definition they say the give special weekly awards and points to them. I have reported the images and nothing is done about them. I know a photoshopped image when I see it. Definitely not SOOTC(PURE). LOL. Oh well........seems some get away with murder while others suffer for it! Wished it was an even ballfield for all to play!
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For the record I was totally agreeing with you- except that they have not actually given any awards.
I also dislike photoshopped images going around masquerading as pure. Have you seen some of the plastic doll eyes on some of the models in people? Although many of us complain here about pixoto's slowness to respond to some issues, almost every time I have reported a photo as not pure, the little purple pure ribbon is removed within hours.
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Ummm, I'm new at this (as of last week) but I thought I saw that "pure" allowed for minor editing? How does one define "minor"?
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Hi Penny, minor contrast changes, sharpening and that sort of thing.
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Pixoto said it will give special weekly award, but we have never seen any

Jason stated that there was too little photos marked as Pure to issue special weekly award, and they would not do it... That was months ago, and after that nobody said anything again about tat special pure award :)
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I know you were Sandra. Totally glad that you get a response. I am thinking I am giving up and enjoy my honest work. LOL
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Hi everyone, please report all images that have the PURE tag and you do not believe them to be PURE.

As Sandra and Jasenka said there are no official contests surrounding images that are marked as PURE, at this point the tags are simply there to notify viewers that the image has been minimally adjusted for color or contrast or has not been manipulated at all.
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I'm confused on this whole pure thing.
I assume this is a picture shot in RAW with absolutely no onboard assistance whatsoever, d-lighting, auto-iso, auto-focus, vivid, HDR etc etc etc and then simply converted to a format that can be uploaded.

Can someone confirm that this is the case please.
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I can't "confirm"...lol...
BUT, essentially what has come up in discussions is that a photo can be marked pure if it only has some basic edits- those that would also have been easily and routinely done in a dark room 50 years ago.
So, that usually includes cropping, some light adjustments (brightness/contrast or levels) and the regular "sharpening" that happens when you convert from RAW to jpg.
Nothing is implied as to whether you use autofocus or auto or manual settings on your camera, and it doesn't matter if you shoot in RAW or jpg- it's mostly about getting the shot as close to 'straight out of camera' as possible.

There has been much discussion about HDR- in my opinion it's not pure, but I'm sure if it's done with subtlety it might pass without anyone noticing. They have no way of checking the settings from your upload.... but if it's obviously HDR it's not pure. Vivid settings are the equivalent of just slightly tweaking saturation, so it could be pure also - except that we all know there is some extreme vivid out there...lol.

For my personal images, if I do any corrections beyond that, I don't mark it as pure. Others aren't as strict. In my opinion, if your edits still make it look like 'reality' I probably won't notice or report it. If the eyes are different colour, or glossy like a doll, and the skin is plastic, then it's not pure. If the flower looks cut and pasted on an artificially blurred background, then it's not pure.
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Great answer Sandra, thank you for helping.
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Thanks for your response Sandra. I only asked as there are many people who bang on about how they do no post processing, preferring to show their photographic skills when in fact they are simply letting the camera do all the work for them.

I have no problem with people preferring minimal processing but in this context the word "pure" is rather meaningless. I think that like other similar sites the term "minimal editing" might be a more meaningful description.
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Maybe the solution could be to open Category "Pure photos" allowing no changes after shooting.
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I believe this was the original idea but once the Pure tag was released it was decided not to go forward due to lack of interest.
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It is pity not to give any rewards for best pure photographs.

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