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has been submitted again, this Photographer has at least 5 of this similar photos ... I thought similar photos where not accepted any more !?
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do u have the links of the very similar photos?
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how about this?
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

you've submitted this again right?
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I think you misunderstood that rule. read again. www.pixoto.com/contest
they maybe similar but they are not "very similar" (according to the rules) or duplicate. fyi, the photos must be distinct with each other and they are different from each other. resubmitting is allowed. I don't see why you're complaining because it's on top of the board? you can report them as duplicates if it pleases you. I also report the real duplicates anyway. I've been successful reporting real duplicates let's see if yours will be too.

http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...

you can try look at my dash board because I've been busy reporting real duplicates
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Jay, you can always resubmit a picture when you think it didn't well. It's then the same but it restart with 0 points and at the end you have it only one time in your pictures. It's then not a duplicate, it's the same starting again.
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@michelle yes, you are right. resubmitting a picture restarts the point and looses all the award it had. in my opinion the pictures in the links above are distinct from each other. I don't see them as duplicates
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no, they're not duplicates at all. They are similar but not too much
I was speaking about Diana's picture. Sorry if my english is not too good. It might be confusing
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u meant the links that Diana posted. ;)
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Overlay this two images in photoshop and you will see:

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

But ok, I won't loose more time on that. If changing light is not seen as similar, but black and white versions are no longer allowed ... I don't understand Pixoto's rules.

Anyway Mr. Jay, don't worry, it's not about power and who will have what removed ... or not ... it's just sad. And he Physalis photos, I really like them after all, but they have been competing since I am here (about 7 months) and I am sure they have already won money prizes and they should not be able to compete any longer in my eyes (but this is not a pixoto rule >> which keeps attracting people to compete for money rather than for the good sake of it).
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Ok. the ones on the bottom are similar but it would be a close call. I feel they are no more similar than the examples that Jay posted of your work. Remember, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. The dups that Jay finds are blatant violations of the rules. Not close calls.
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@andrew we've settled this already ;-) ^^ of course i won't allow anyone to throw stones at me so I make sure I walk the talk and in case an error is found in me I would be ready to correct it right away
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My apologies Jay. I like to try and defend people that I feel have been wrongly accused of something. It gets me in trouble sometimes. :(
I will consider the matter closed then. Keep up the good work.
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no need of apologies, you didn't create the trouble, thanks for defending actually because I do the same for others. at least someone saw my points were proven right.
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Dear Mr. Halpern, who are you to throw stones on me, prove first ... show them now please, c'mon!
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I still don't think they look the same or 50% similar even if I overlay them on photoshop. and these physalis photos were posted late February only and not for 7 months as you mentioned. I've been with pixoto since August 2011.
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I overlayed them to match 99% :-P ...
Oh, now I understand! They're yours! :-)
I won't discuss this any longer with you thou. Have a great day Jay, I like your shots anyway ...
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u were able to download the pictures from pixoto and overlaid them?
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yes, I made a printscreen and overlayed the printscreens :-) That's how I do to find out if people cheat :-P

Yes, you are right, this plant is very common here, different angles, different backgrounds, clous are different ....
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I meant clouds
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so you're saying that the background, the water droplets, and the reflections of the two photos you mentioned have been photoshopped to appear that they are two different image? and how were you able to say 99% matched upon overlaying?
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fyi, these photos maybe similar but they are not duplicates. they are different files. multiple shot feature of the phone. do your research well. these photos were submitted in March. the duplicate rule was not the same this June where a little similarity even if files are of different exif is already considered duplicates
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It's a little bit like this ones:
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

It was not against the rules until the 1st of June but in my eyes, if one of theses images is resubmitted, it will brake the rule. It would be great to have an admin comment on what I am saying here ...
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these two pictures are the real duplicate
1 file edited in different way

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

so think before you complain make sure of your own first, these are real duplicates am I wrong?
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra... Mar 28, 2012
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra... Jun 20, 2012
I just reported
opinion?
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Dear jay, I will try to explain it again to you:

First I am not saying your trees are duplicates, just similar, just too similar and they are not against the rules since they were posted before 1st of June. BUT if you resubmit one of those four images it could be against the new rules saying no similars. Is that clear now?

Then: yes, for the the two examples you just gave here:
The first is no, sorry, one photo taken with the normal camera from iphone and the second with Hipstamatic.

Then yes, for this one you are 100% right. It was not against the rules at the time, but it is now and I will delete both and resubmit one of them again. Is that fair enough?
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we agree on this one :) you just delete the old one. the new one will stay. I did that too in a few of my pics
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OK Jay, I will try to explain this to you once more:

Your 4 images of the tree are no duplicates but similars ... I am not saying that they are against any rules until now since they were submitted before 1st of June.

The two images are not one file, there are distinct photos taken once with the normal iphone cam and the other with the app named hipstamatic.

The other two images where not against the rules but are now since I resubmitted image number 2 on June 20th. So yes, This is not OK either and I will delete both images and resubmit only one of them. Is that fair enough?
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:)
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Diana - we would not consider the images in question to be "very similar" it's a close call but given the different position of both the fruit and the camera combined with different light and background we think they are distinct enough.
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Thank you for your enlightened answer Jason, this was getting somehow ridiculous over here.

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