Pixoto is rigged towards paying customers, giving them higher score bias.

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I see images that clearly should not have over 700 points. Pixoto is definitely rigged towards paying customers, giving them higher scores.
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Sherry Andreason

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Hello Dennis, I am sorry you feel that way, when I look at the leader board I see beautiful images that have been voted to the top by our players. In fact today, out of the top 8 photos site wide, 1 is a paid member and only 2 in the top 10.
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when I look at the leader board I see images of paying customers only, the voting is most definately rigged in favour of account holders and this makes me extremely angry, there are images in the leaderboards that have absolutely no artistic or photography merit to be there. :( not to mention the site is compromised by SPAMMING SCUM who virtually make it impossible to enjoy using the site.
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P.S. Sherry your reply is an absolute fabrication and totally rubbish.
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Joyce Andersen

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Frank, the post is over a year old....
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hmm, I actually won several awards in a row before I was a paying customer.
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Frank Gray

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It doesn't change the fact that there is blatant vote rigging on pixoto. :(
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Terry Gower

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That is a subject that has been discussed often, I don't really think its based on paying customers, but voting from certain countries.
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I believe Terry is right -- and that time zones play a part in this "game". I have found the time of day an image is submitted can make a difference. I have also noticed a difference between weekends and weekdays.
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no kidding. I lose at least 8 out of 12 first duels and then end up with a score of better than 550 if I boost it. the last duels run win win win win..... and catch up slowly. but I will never get anything over 650, because all my images seem to get trummled right away.
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Yup Joyce sounds about right, I have seen many of my images instantly take a huge lead on wins to mysteriously just as quickly drop as if someone has noticed in admin that my photo's are doing to well for someone who is not a PRO member and rig the voting accordingly. in the end I have just deleted the photo's. :(
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Hello Frank, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with your statement.

If you take a look at the Leaderboards - lets take this week leaderboard for all photos: http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
you will see that on first 10 places there is not one Pro user, and if you go to first 20 places you will only see 2 Pro users. Let's go more, and it can be seen that in first 30 places there are only 5 Pro user, in 40 there are 8 Pro users and 11 Pro users in first 50 places. That is 22% percent, so 78% of first 50 places in overall Photography section is taken by Basic members which is almost 4 times more then number of Pro mambers.

Lets go by each category, I will put name of category and number of Pro / Basic users in first 10 places (as they are at the moment I write this):

Abstract - 2 Pros / 8 Basic
Animals - 0 Pro / 10 Basic
Cats - 9 Pro / 1 Basic
Dogs - 6 Pro / 4 Basic
Artistic objects - 5 Pro / 5 Basic
Babies - 3 Pro / 7 Basic
B&W - 2 Pro / 8 Basic
Buildings - 1 Pro / 9 Basic
City - 0 Pro / 10 Basic
DA - 1 Pro / 9 Basic
Flowers - 1 Pro / 9 Basic
Food - 3 Pro / 7 Basic
Instagram - 2 Pro / 8 Basic
Landscape 2 Pro / 8 Basic
Nature up close - 0 Pro / 10 Basic
News - 3 Pro / 7 Basic
Nudes - 0 Pro / 10 Basic
People - 1 Pro / 9 Basic
Holiday - 6 Pro / 4 Basic
Sports - 3 Pro / 7 Basic
Transportation - 3 Pro / 7 Basic
Wedding - 3 Pro / 7 Basic

So if we add all up there are 56 Pro photos vs. 164 Basic member photos, or put differently, in average only 25% of top 10 photos in categories belong to Pro members this week.

I hope this helps.
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can't say I see a difference in the scores depending on pro or basic but there are some really awful images getting to the top 10 lately (I can only comment on babies and children as that's all I enter into really on here) but I really can't see how certain bad quality / out of focus images are getting votes.. really odd
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Hello Chinchilla, some users vote on smaller screens (like iPad or mobiles) and on smaller screens some irregularities (like lack of focus or quality of photo - noise or blur) are not so visible as opposed when you look at photo on computer on image detail page.
I hope this helps.
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Surely that's an argument for not allowing voting on the phones etc...just a thought.
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The fact is if they are viewing on phones or on tablets then the worse of the two images would look even worse so why would they vote for them??
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actually, the smaller the image, the easier it is to miss bad focus, the real plus to Iphone viewing is that the colours jump out at you from the duelling images (people tend to vote for the more colourful image) and the composition of an image is sometimes easier to judge when the eye can see the whole image at one concentrated glance. I see my own pictures on the small screen of the camera and say "wow, I nailed it!!" and then get home onto the computer and see just how fuzzy, unclear and bad it really is!! the colour is off, the focus is off and the subject was moving!
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yeh I think it must be the phone or tablet issue.. sometimes in the thumbnails the bad images look really cute then you look open it and it looks like it was taken with really bad camera phone and then edited by a 3 year old.. but surely if it's not possible to vote correctly via phone or tablet we shouldn't be able to vote by phone or tablet?
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Oh so one week now and again showing a few of the folks who can't afford to pump money into the site to go pro makes it right huh?? there are also very many users who when they post photo's they are duelling against themselves as their photo's ride side by side which is supposedly against the site terms of use. and how can 12 wins and 2 losses in a duel suddenly become 12 wins and 24 losses in the blink of an eye, and you try to tell me there is no vote rigging. pfffffft!! I don't think so, it is rampant and needs to be addressed by the Admin on the site. Because I can't afford to go pro being disabled I can't see my stats to further prove there is cheating going on.
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just a couple of days ago... my image hit 7wins and one loss, then within a few hours it was 8 wins and 14 losses... it is suspicious to me too sometimes.
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Joyce, the same thing happens to me very often - a pictures gets off with a very good start, and then all of a sudden, the votes become all negative. And I have a PRO account. They will explain this by saying that when your score becomes higher, you get compared with better photos and then you start losing because you're not up to their standard. That's the bullshit part of that algorithm that Pixoto is so proud of. In my opinion, we should simply get 100 votes no matter how good or bad our picture is, and simply let the best one win. I hate the idea that they decide if your photo is "worth" giving more duels or not.
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same experience here

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