Pixoto is now more of a challenge site then a contest .

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Pixoto is now more of a challenge site then a contest site something needs to be done. Challenges with over a thousand entrees are significantly slowing down contest voting. Its way out of hand and something needs to be done. You used to get 100 battles for votes in a day now it takes days. Limitations needs to be set to keep the site running the way it was meant to be. HELP!!!!!!!!!
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There are many issues with the challenges:
1) Unoriginal topics, often merely mimicking existing Pixoto categories
2) Challenges with unpopular topics stay up for weeks trying to get entries. This clutters up the interface and makes the site less user friendly.(e.g., Blackberry phone pictures. Does anyone even have a Blackberry anymore?)
3) Too many simultaneously challenges from a single person (actually three people)
4) Slower votong on newly submitted images, thus undercutting the appeal of "instant feedback" on new images, one of the most attractive parts of Pixoto.

Possible solutions include :
1) moderation by Pixoto employees
2) Charging money or credits to start a challenge. Somehow people who have been given credits by the thousands for some of these existing challenges should not be allowed to use thos to continue to clog up the system
3) A limit on the number if challenges one may start at a time
4) An email to the three offenders would be a good start
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The trouble is anything like those challenges is Pixoto would delete the challenge and not really see the point behind it ?
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I agree that it would draw more Pixoto attention than I'm willing to risk, but it did release a little frustration for a minute. Moderating a challenge the right way isn't easy or fun. People don't like having an image disqualified. If you set certain requirements there are times when you have to look at every image to verify that it was shot as a certain f stop or with a certain model of camera. I don't know if that warrants a full credit for every entered image but it warrants something.
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compare the cost of buying credits to what they get................ I don't think so !?
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Shooting America

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Now, I feel like a fool buying the pro membership! I didn't know about getting credits just by moderating challenges when I signed up! LOL!
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Michael Moore

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Yet another reason to restrict the number of challenges that can be created at any one time
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What I would like to see change in challenges
1- Only members determine winners, not moderators
2- A minimum amount of photos for challenges or it does not go
3- Equal amount of votes for each photo in a challenge
4- Set a maximum amount of time for voting, some voting in challenges are months long.
5- Set a maximum and or minimum amount of time for entries.
6- Get the staff more involved with challenges
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You also need to add a restriction on the number of challenges a member can create at any one time
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Yes add that too
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Add also that the moderator gets only a set small amount of credits per challenge
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Thank you all for suggestions, I forwarded them to the management.
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Thank you Jasenka
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I absolutely agree Michael. I see we suddenly now have at least 7 challenges for birds..each one for a different color. This really is out of hand and will continue as long as they know they can get away with it...jMHO.
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http://www.pixoto.com/awards/53416720...

How the heck this won is beyond me....
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i agree .... I'm not a professional photographer .... Just enjoy my camera... With no offense to the taker but this belongs In a personal album
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The image linked here lacks all elements of good photography. Probably quite lovely for someone's photo album or Facebook page... not for a photography site however.
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Cecilia Sterling made that challenge and she won it and she has done that many times. she has single handily changed the dynamics of this site and not in a good way and Jason is doing nothing about it.
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Load of b****cks if you ask me - Talk about taking the p***!!!!!!!!!
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Not only did she win it, all of the 13 winning entries Yes every single winning entry were hers ????

Not only are the Challenges slowing down the voting as well as paying out credits for doing not much at all but now they are very suspicious in the way they are being run, and this proves it !!!
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I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who noticed that. Actually, she is the only one who even entered that challenge-- all 86 images were hers. It must have had a very short timespan if no one else even entered. How could that have happened?
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Ralph your 100% correct Not only did she win it, all of the 13 winning entries were hers.
Jason / Jasenka check out the link

http://www.pixoto.com/challenges/all-...
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Sorry it was already mentioned in the following threads earlier. I missed those comments. So deleting mine..Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Of course, the challenge had 86 entries total, all hers. Nobody else entered and she won all the placements. Unless she disqualified all the rest. But no, there's actually nobody else interested in this challenge. LOL!
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My god, just checked the link. So much for the credibility of the site. This is nuts!!!
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And she won another challenge which she moderated.

http://www.pixoto.com/challenges/only...

It can definitely be said that the "challenges" had gone to the dogs! LOL!
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When the winners of challenges are chosen by Pixoto viewers I normally have no issue with the moderator winnning. Having said that, if a challenge gets no other entries then it seems like the common sense decsion would be for the moderator to delete the challenge due to lack of interest.
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Lou
Common sense ??? does anyone with common sense make 45 challenges this girl needs to get a life. I'm retired and I don't have the time to make 45 challenges. If she spent that much time behind the camera instead of in front the computer she might win a challenge for real.
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I agree with your assessment of Ms. Sterling's logic. I'm speaking generally about some of the other challenges that have lingered for weeks. (e.g., Happy Eggs, Wooden Cups, The Real Gem etc.)
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http://www.pixoto.com/challenges/all-...

Jason - please explain why this person has a challenge made up of ONLY her entries!
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This needs to be addressed by the owner(s) of the site immediately (not a moderator) and one of them needs to get on line and give us Proof that something substantial is being done. Personally I will only be happy if she is removed permanently. I PAY money to the site and I regard that as a contract that I can be confident the site will be managed fairly. I am admin to 3 sites myself and I consider that to be an obligation. I have NO qualms about removing people who abuse the other members of my sites. It's part of the job.
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I agree that the time has come for action. A simple email to Ms. Sterling could have potentially nipped this in the bud a long time ago. Rather than making programming changes to the content management system here, understandably costly and labor intensive, some human intervention can do more than wholesale rule changes. I would like to add my voice to th eother pro members who feel that the value of the site is being diluted. I enjoy Pixoto a lot and I'm not about to quit or demand a refund. I just want the instant feedback from a significant number duels. I paid for that.
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There has been numerous complaints about the amount and quality of the community challenges, yet without any reaction from Pixoto Management. Previously the argument was that these challenges do not impact on the normal Image Duels, and I agree that management really made an effort to limit the number of challenge duels during voting. That said, I do not think that the community challenges really contribute to the overall site experience. I hope that management will take control of or at least start moderating the community challenges.
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The examples above surely must prove to Pixoto that the community challenges need strong input from them. They are being badly misused, they impact on the site and basically there is cheating.
There needs to be a limit on the challenges, its simple, and has been said by many, myself for quite some time now, there needs to be an overall limit on the credits given for each challenge, and all challenges, without exception must be judged by voters.
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I see another moderator with challenges created in double figures overnight has appeared!!! Guess who follow each other !
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Ms. Sterling now has 53 open community challenges. Ms. Hollywood has 18. We also have another "Enter Whatever You Want Because I Just want the Credits" challenge.

Photography is an art form. It's about creativity and original thinking. That's what makes it enjoyable to me. My hope for Pixoto is that it celebrate those two traits in everything it does. Be different than Flickr and 500 Pixels and other sites based on social media skills over craftsmanship.
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I make the challenges I make simply to see the others artists work. Most of mine are also very original. Nor do I enter my own challenges. And fyi I only followed her because she followed me. I am in no way trying to break any rules. I was simply trying to do some fun challenges for people, Also my voting times are short and i do not rack up credits some of my challenges don't even bring many people they are simply to be fun. I also didn't even make any for two weeks and just made a few creative ones today. So please think twice before judging me so harshly. Thanks.
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I'm sorry but your characterization of your challenges as original does not meet the facts. Several of your current challenges are nothing more than copies of existing image categories already on the site. Either that or they are copies of challenges that have recently ended or or currently ongoing. Hopefully now that you have seen the strong feelings about your challenges in the upcoming rule implementation by the owners of the site you will modify your current practices.
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Brandi, the level of frustration has a lot to do with Pixoto not enacting restrictive rules sooner. They decided last week to limit to 3 challenges but that obviously hasn't taken effect yet so its frustrating to see people create excess challenges while we wait for the new rules. If you say your intentions are good I will give believe you but please understand that too many challenges are bad for the site.
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She is on facebook. I am so tempted to send her a message asking WHY she is so bent on destroying this site. And yes I see the trend is rampant...but no one who represents Pixoto wants to come near it. It raises some VERY serious questions and issues. Where is the money going is at the top of my list.. I was so excited to find Pixoto and suggested it to all my photo friends and now I regret it...:(
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Theresa the real question is why are they letting her do this. Is it a benefited to Pixoto monetarily. This was the Premier Photo site out classing all others and now its become the laughing stock of the photography sites. If you look at the few that are setting up numerous challenges they are poor photographers little to no 1st places. You should have to be a accomplished photographer to be able to setup a challenge. It seams the ones who should be doing this are not and the ones that have no clue are.
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The lack of response from the owners is what bothers me most. This is a fee site, they can't just ignore it. It puts them in legal jeopardy. I see that Ms Sterling and Ms Hollywood are buddy's and follow each other...a coincidence? Doubtful I'm sure. I was thinking we were dealing with an unstable personality till I saw that. I am going to end my "fee" account until the owners can prove to me they are entitled to my trust that they can run this site with integrity. Besides after doing a count of the top overall winners, it looks like about 75% of them are non paying anyway.
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As an aside her photography is poor..
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I asked for clearance to post this comment on a challenge or two.

I do not know if you are aware how deeply unpopular your challenges are becoming to members of this site. If you go to the Help and Community section of Pixoto you will see several threads discussing your challenges. Several members are petitioning the management and owners to ban you. Paying members are threatening to ask for refunds. My intention here is not to threaten or scare you at all but to inform you of what's happening and to give you the opportunity to join the conversation. Thank you.
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Did you wind up posting this on any of her challenges?
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I suppose a good thing is, the challenges are not attracting many submissions.
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Hi all, just wanted to let you know that management is aware of your dissatisfaction with challenges and we are trying to find solution that would be satisfying to all.
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Limiting the number of free challenges a person can make in a month and then charging money for further new challenges would be a good thing to restrict the challenges.
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True, but not in the spirit of community challenges. Would probably kill off community challenges completely.

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