Only one model for these togs? Are we bored yet???

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I tell you what - let's all just get together, use one model, one scarf and one headdress after we bored of shooting lilies and bridges shall we????

Yep - Pixoto - you sure do know how to encourage diversity and keep the site vibrant and exciting ;-)

Here are images from 3 different togs - all of the same model, pose, taken on the same day........







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My question would be whether they are three different togs. One could have generated three different accounts in order not to get hit with similars or duplicates. My - I've become so cynic lately! Don't like all the cheating that occurs on this site and they still are members AND absolutely knew better but continue to thwart the policies as set forth.
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Could of course be the same photographer. Maybe its the same photo group that takes the same pictures of THAT railway bridge, or the purple lilies, or the kids jumping into water.
Hey, After Oz, you aren't the only one to become cynical.....
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It's no different than the lily invasion - it's a p*** take if you ask me - they are literally laughing all the way to the bank, and who can blame them?

Yep Pixoto - you had a really awesome concept when you came up with this idea, but let me tell you, if I was looking to buy stock images and looked at the leaderboard under flowers and people ..............it wouldn't be long before I got bored and went elsewhere.....
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I was thinking similar thoughts recently Dawn,people wanting shots want different,they don't need to see huge quantities of purple lilies,for example,that in itself would probably put them off because they are common, not unique.
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What's the problem they are different or they are in different categories B&W or not ?

There's too much of the Cheat slur flung around just lately when there isnt a problem, Yes the Lilly problem is something that needs addressing but the images above are different enough and the Indian ones are either different or entered in different categories ?

as for 3 togs photographing the same model, i go to an international air display every year and photograph it to use here, so do probably dozens of other's what's the difference we are still photographing the same subject ?
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The problem? It's extremely boring, repetitive and shows lack of imagination for a start....................
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The problem here is, some of you are just looking to 1-10 pictures on the leaderboard. Why don't you scroll down and you can see there are lots of beautiful photos. Are you here in Pixoto just to comment or scout? I don't know if you are submitting or contributing photos here in Pixoto. This is a stock photo site. If I will buy stock images here in Pixoto, I will scroll down until the last photo because I know there are lots of beautiful photos here. I don't believe that the photos that are always on the leaderboard are more beautiful than the other photos that are not on the leaderboard.
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Dawn all i can see from you is your bad and boring criticism. Are you that good tog where in we could learn or appreciate his work? You are not help at all.
One more thing Dawn show your work first before you criticize.
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I do
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To all the togs who are good in criticizing the work of others, show your work first before you say something. this is a site and community where members help each other. I've been here for a long time and i observed that most of the members who talk and criticize a lot are those who do not contribute much (images, and help). Or maybe it's just about jealousy and sourgraping. Sorry to tell you this.
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you hit it charlie and am still waiting for the other lady to comment...
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I am puzzled that you would think I'd be jealous that I can't think for myself, have no imagination, can only shoot the same images as all my friends over and over and don't really have much to offer in the way of creativity - but hey-ho, whatever........
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Just lately this site seems to be less about constructive criticism and helpful advice and more about demanding your own way and shouting cheat !

There has been a flurry of members who recently have opted for the im right because i say so attitude and sod everyone else !
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Dawn

It is expensive to hire a model on your own, that is why togs group together for a shoot. If a particular shoot has a specific theme then some of the images may look a little similar. I have seen some of these shoots from ID and they can have 20+ togs all shooting at the same time. If individual togs are submitting duplicates or similar images then post the links.
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Bill - there are not enough hours in the day..... I just don't see any creativity which is a real shame - to have such an amazing tool at your fingertips and to keep churning out near-identical images seems such a waste to me.

Is the only thing worth shooting a girl in a faux headdress, a lily, a bridge, a roaring tiger and a handful of other stuff? I hardly think so.

Charlie - is it boring criticism to suggest you think outside the box and develop your own style rather than be a carbon copy of a group? Where is your own sense of style? These images are so similar and interchangeable that they could have been shot by any one of you. Many of the best togs strive to develop a unique style that sets them apart. But go ahead - if you want to eat strawberry jam on toast for breakfast every morning, then do it - just don't serve it up day after day and expect others not to get sick of it......
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Dawn show me your so called creativity in your work please?
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Dawn

I have to agree with you on the lack of creativity. That is the problem with a group shoot with 20+ togs all shooting at once. When i have been on a group shoot in the UK we shoot individually within an allocated time slot...not ideal but at least you can be a little creative within the theme of the shoot.

You may view other togs work (particularly the guys that shoot lilys/bridges/tigers/eagles etc) as being boring and showing a lack of creativity, again i have to agree with you. But an individual tog reserves the right to specialize in those areas for whatever reason they choose.

If i see an image that bores me to death ( lilys/bridges/tigers/eagles etc) i vote the other way....that is my choice.
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Dawn

This took me all of 5 mins to find.

2 different togs at the same shoot, coming up with the same shot........Pixoto is full of this.

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Absolutely Bill - but there's specializing, and there's done to death ;-) .........I can't for the life of me understand why someone who lives in such a beautiful country doesn't use the lens to explore it, and expose others to images of places and things we will never see.......I love seeing the talent and variety here - but boredom starts to set in after a while if there is nothing new and exciting.

Maybe the reason these same images stay on top of the leaderboard is because Pixoto is not able to appeal to or retain a wider group of serious and talented togs? Pixoto claim that they want to keep this place vibrant and ask that people not post very similar images. To continue flooding the site with such is disrespectful. As the saying goes "Don't bite the hand that feeds you......."
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I agree with you Bill, speaking for myself. I am mastering one subject at a time. It just so happened that we have a group here and we have abundant water lilies to start with. And it's really fun to go outside and shoot together, coz we learn together as a group. So, I mastered my lilies, now I'm gonna try something else. But for Dawn, I don't know how you get bored, I never get bored in this site. Every time I look at others work I learn something. I think it's just a matter of attitude. But for me I choose the plus side of things. It feels a lot better. It will show in your work as well...
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EBR, if you are referring to me, then here is my response. After reading most of Dawn's posts, she is contributing daily to the Pixoto site. I contribute several images a week myself. Her point, and I do agree with her, here is that most stock sites do not allow an overabundance of the same shot to be entered. One in particular, asks that you submit your work so they can determine if it is too similar to other submitted stock, or whether that category has enough entries. If the images are not unique enough, they do not allow you to submit your photos. Here on Pixoto we have too many of the same model, the same flowers, the same colored pencils, the same bridges, the same skyline, the same rusted locks, and whatever else you see day after day after day without any unique quality to it. If you are perfecting your craft on lilies, then make the second one unique from the first, and the third equally as unique. Most of them are identical enough for voting to become a chore rather than a thrill, and right now that seems to be in the people category. Further, the only comments you tend to see on here are valid questions as to why something is allowed and something is not. My concerns are whether to submit according to my interpretation of the policies, or whether I can submit to any category I want to because everyone else does. Bill, Asher, and Terry's responses were clear and concise without starting a witch hunt. There is no need to bash someone for voicing their opinions nor asking valid questions!
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No sorry I'm not referring to you as the other lady...I don't know how long have you been here at pixoto since you have only 44 images with 11 violins (submitted in February and March) and a few squirrels....
I agree with all of your points above. I'm only here just for fun. I even don't sell my photos here.
FYI I'm selling my photos at fineartsamerica and it's a great site. No i'm not selling the lilies,bridges or mosque - no one would buy them....lol

Have a nice day!
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EBR, yes but the violin images were taken in four different settings with secondary props. I have been on since 2012 and only keep the images up that have won awards. Believe me when I say, I have submitted hundreds. I'm not as good as you top togs, and only post when I have the time. You forgot the cats, the glass, the boots, the lanterns, and landscapes. I have a membership to fineartsamerica but am waiting for my images to show enough quality to post there. No apologies necessary to me -- my portfolio is of little consequence. Best wishes on your career.
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Voicing an opinion is great, asking a valid question is to be expected if we are going to develop our "skill" ?

Just lately however, there has been more like demands and tantrums if people don't get there own way, which is no good too anyone !

and to all who think this site is so bad, why are you still here moaning about it ?... oh yes because its not so bad after all !
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I feel bored when someone tells me what to shoot or how to do it. I bet, the problem is not so much on the redundancy but rather on the performance of those images. If those images were not in the top of the leader board, then I doubt if someone will complain about it as too boring. If you check the bottom of the the board, you'll see lots of images that are not worth a look -- noise, composition, color, blur, etc. -- those are the images that makes me sick.

Don't ask creativity from others, they have their own, it only happens that it differs from your taste.
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You are correct...
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What bothers me is why such repetitive, often badly processed photos rate so highly. Overprocessed skins and Indian head dresses score repetitively in the 700's but why? Someone has to thing that they are good and vote for them. Which makes most photographic crit sites around the world obsolete if this is the vision of the average person. Thoughts?
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You raise a very good point, Derek, and I have often thought that myself. What trends on this site makes me wonder if the good old fashioned still life, landscape or abstract will sell on any other site. Jasenka has pointed out many times that people are voting from their smart phones and perhaps they cannot see that the image is out of focus or so heavily processed to make it seem unrealistic.

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