Make "SKIP" count as a vote and provide incentive for voting.

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I believe that "skip" when voting should be considered as a vote.
It says simply that I REALLY don't like any of those two pictures. It happens too many times.
There is also a problem when you have more pictures it is hard to "maintain" them by voting. I caught myself at times doing it almost mechanically and that is detrimental to the purpose of the site itself.
Is there a way to, let's say, make two votes count as three when you vote over 200, 2 votes count as four when you vote over 500.
anyway you are better at algorithms than i am.
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Sandra Veech

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The thing is that "skip" is meant for times when you might opt out because you recognize one of the photographs or know the photog. Sometimes I skip because I report one of the photos for a watermark, but that doesn't mean that I want to automatically give the vote to a lesser quality photo.
Even if you do skip because you don't like either one- skipping causing a negative impact on those pictures could be used if you wanted to have a negative impact on a close competitor.
Also, even when you don't LIKE either photo, the pixoto team has replied before by saying it's still important for all photogs here to see how their work compares to others by relative ranking. So, between the two images, sometimes they are both in need of improvement, but COMPARED ONLY TO EACHOTHER and not considering the top images in the category, how do these two rank in relation to eachother.
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Sandra, How would you compare a turd to a pile of dung? Which one is better?
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Then the answer is to provide a separate button for neither ?
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There is no safe way to do this. It would allow people to manipulate the scores by voting neither on everything in their category.
It is hard to vote the turd or the dung when it really comes to it and it does. Often.
I don't think that the guy with the dung will understand he has a dung when he sees +++. Anyway a lot of people are speed voting to get the points to boost their own pictures.
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First of all, it was YOUR suggestion John H. so why are you poo-pooing it now?

Voting 'neither' should not count as a negative or positive, so it wouldn't matter if people voted 'neither' on anything in their category.

Pixoto seems to think that people will see that they are losing, and that will inspire them to improve... which is completely false. Instead, it'll dishearten them and they will either quit Pixoto, or quit photography.
Fact is, the only way to get people to improve is to offer critiques and pointers from experienced/educated people.
I've only submitted one photo, and discovered that I was the top of the people who submit strait photos, and everyone ahead of me had over-exaggerated post-processing. For example, a couple months ago they had a contest for yellow pencils. The top 10 'photos' were 100% computer generated. They were NOT photos, they were graphic art. Well I am not a graphic artist, I am a photographer, so I see no point for me to continue to submit photos to Pixoto.
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First of all, it was YOUR suggestion John H. so why are you poo-pooing it now?

Voting 'neither' should not count as a negative or positive, so it wouldn't matter if people voted 'neither' on anything in their category.

Pixoto seems to think that people will see that they are losing, and that will inspire them to improve... which is completely false. Instead it'll dishearten them and they will either quit Pixoto, or quit photography.
Fact is, the only way to get people to improve is to offer critiques and pointers from experienced/educated people.
I've only submitted one photo, and discovered that I was the top of the people who submit strait photos, and everyone ahead of me had over-exaggerated post-processing. For example, a couple months ago they had a contest for yellow pencils. The top 10 'photos' were 100% computer generated. They were NOT photographs of any sort, they were graphic art. Well I am not a graphic artist, I am a photographer; and even though i appreciate seeing what others are doing; I see no point for me to continue to submit photos to Pixoto.