How does Pixoto make money?

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How does Pixoto make money. Just curious to know because every week assuming they give out all 13 prizes of 150$), it will cost 1950 per week and 7800$ per month.

Hope you understand the concern that I am raising.
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Any answer please?

Thanks
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Currently we don't have any revenue - but we are working on several initiatives that will solve that. That said our priority is to build an engaged and happy user base for the time being.
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I made earnings from a sale of a print that hasn't been posted to my Paypal, and all attempts to find out why have been ignored. Perhaps this is how they pay out prize money, if they actually do.
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Hello Ken, please see this topic http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...
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Turns out I am correct. They don't send your money unless there is at least 75.00 in your account, and then they hold it for 60 days. They get paid for your sales, but you don't is basically the way it works.
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It's a real shame, because I was enjoying this site. Now I am in the process of deleting my photos and when I am done, I will close my account.
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Humm....just a bi late in receiving your reply..... I just deleted all my images because I was not satisfied with the way things were going. Maybe I am the odd one out. But I really dont want to get into a situation where there is no clue about what will happen to the images that I submit here. If the revenue model is vague or unclear, I fear this could lead to somewhere where I dont want my images to be.

(unless the owner of the site is super super rich [with all due respect to people running Pixoto] and can afford to give away 8000$ every month for nothing)

I hope the images I delete will get deleted form the database also and not just my profile page.

Thanks

p.s: Is there a way to delete my account also?
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Sajid - I'm sorry to hear that. We are a well funded company - and can easily cover the weekly prize money (see http://www.socaltech.com/pixoto_raise...) . We have very clear ideas on how we will generate money (this will include stock photography, advertising and "pro" level accounts). We do not have the right to use your images for any purpose you don't authorize and any stock photography efforts that we engage in will be strictly opt-in by the photographer.

I'll think you'll find that Pixoto will become an increasingly valuable place to have your images.

That said - if you would like to delete your account please send me an email at jason [at] pixoto.com and I will have that done.

Best

Jason
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This will never be a serious Stock Site until you stop playing with things that don't need fixing. And you get paid for every download that people make, we have to have 300 downloads before we reach the ceiling of $75-00 dollars so that we can get paid which in reality most people will never reach.
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that, Graham is the truth, I looked at the numbers and took every photo out of the market. I will never get paid, and people will be using my photos, and Pixoto will be making money off me, both in anything I sell as well as paying for Pro. There is no up side for the average or even better than average photographer. so i just get my kicks out of getting a 20% or better award every once in a while. And that is even getting old and moldy when you see all the cheating happening and the recategorizing of any image that by some miracle makes it to the higher duel counts.
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Copyright laws are in place to protect our rights. The unreasonable conditions they set for paying us our money may not be legal. Perhaps a good lawyer could offer suggestions. Luckily, I know a few. I'll see what they say before I close my account.
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Sales on Redbubble must exceed $25, if I remember correctly, before payout to the photographer, and I think 500px is $50. I've always felt that Pixoto's choice of $75 is way, way too high.
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Hello Ken, by submitting your photos to Market you have agreed to Market Contributor Terms of Service. You can see full Market Contributor Terms of Service on this page: http://www.pixoto.com/market-terms

Minimum payment rate clause can be found within Market TOS under item 6-c.

"...6. Compensation:

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c. There is a minimum payout rate of Seventy Five US Dollars (USD 75.00) per accounting period for electronic payments. If you request that payments be made to you by check, the minimum payment is Three Hundred US Dollars (USD 300.00) per accounting period. If during an accounting period, you haven't accumulated Seventy Five US Dollars (USD 75.00) or Three Hundred US Dollars (USD 300.00) in royalties, and/or other compensation, as applicable, your compensation will be brought forward into the next accounting period. If you cancel your account, prior to accrued earnings in your royalty account totaling Seventy Five US Dollars (USD 75.00) or Three Hundred US Dollars (USD 300.00) in royalties, as applicable depending upon your selected method of payment, such royalties will be forfeited by you. Pixoto reserves the right to hold the first payment for 60 days to prevent fraud.
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There, finally you have it in writing...they will do anything possible to not pay you your money. I own the photographs, when they are sold I get paid. I'm glad I found out about this shit now, while you only owe me about 8.00. The 8.00 worth of bad publicity you will be getting will hurt you more than it will me.
Trust me on that.
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Hello Ken, please send e-mail to Jason@Pixoto.com regarding your payout request.
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Hello Jasenka; NO! I won't. Pay us our money when we earn it and quit trying to make us dance for it.
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Ken, I understand your frustration, but unfortunately this is how all sites like this work. I do think Pixoto's threshold of $75 is too high, but all sites have a threshold that you have to meet and all sites have a waiting period -- it's just the industry standard, from what I've seen anyway.

If you can find a stock photography site online that works differently with regards to payout and waiting periods, I'd love to know about it, and I'm sure others would too. It's frustrating having to wait.

If you want immediate payment, I'd suggest creating your own site if you just want to offer the images in digital format (you can use a site like e-junkie to manage the downloads and accept the payments, a friend and I used to run our own stock photography site and we used e-junkie) or create an Etsy shop to sell your images. With Etsy, you can print the images yourself and sell them that way, but you can also now sell downloadable images at Etsy too, making it more appropriate to sell stock as you can offer up the digital file to customers.

Of course, that's all a lot of work. Only you can decide if it's worth it to you to use a site like Pixoto and wait on your payment, or do it yourself and get immediate payment.

Oh, and I was wrong about Redbubble's threshold....it's not $25, it's $20.
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When you sell one of MY images you get paid immediately for it. Frankly, I don't care how other sites work. Any site that makes money on the backs of other's and then forces them to dance for their measly share is pretty sad. You've taken all the fun out of it by being so greedy.
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Hello Ken, I'm sorry if I was unclear. Please e-mail Jason@Pixoto.com since he can make earlier payment to your account.
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I HAVE made myself perfectly clear. NO! You have accepted payment for MY work. You have in place unacceptable and senseless rules for paying me my portion. NONE of us should have to wait for or beg for OUR money. I will be glad to send him or you a "thank you" email when I see my payment, and when I know that I am not getting special treatment because I am being a nuisance. You get paid for our work, then you don't pay us; you are crooks.
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maybe just not photographers!
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Like I said, I can and will cost you far more than the amount that you owe me. You chose to fuck the people that are earning you money, rather than compensate us for our work. Bad advertising is far more effective than good advertising; and you are getting MY money's worth.
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Ken. I'm sorry for the confusion. We do not do automatic payments before $75 but I'm happy to do a manual payment if you request it. However, since this is a public forum and anybody can change their name at will I need to have the request from you in email.
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More confusion I was under the impression that we were already submitting our images to stock? so when is this going to happen? and how can you be working on new things when the old ones don't work.
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Hi Graham - I'm not sure what you mean. What is the issue you are experiencing?
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Nothing works Jason, it's just one bug after another and all you seem interested in is placing more and more restrictions on your contributors, just look at the list of the complaints that are appearing on a daily basis, how are you expecting to make this site competitive when you are driving the people that matter away?
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I do not wish to sell any of my photos as stock, and I do not wish to sell any canvas; and I have marked my photos as such. Yet, if you click on the buy canvas button on my photos, it takes you to the place to buy a canvas.
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Hello Ken, I took a look at your portfolio and I do not see any of your photos for sale either as stock or for Canvas sale. You as owner can buy your own photos on canvas, and that is why when you click on buy canvas button you are able to do it (but only if you are signed in). But nobody else can do it. You can check it if you sign out from your account then open your profile page, and you should not see "shopping cart" icon over photos.

If this doesn't help, please let me know.
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when you click on the buy canvas it is saying you want to buy your own canvas... not someone elses that is not for sale. seems that you own your own rights and can buy for yourself and pay the full amount. If I want to buy a canvas,pay full value and ship to a customer in the US I can do that and cut Pixoto out of the middle. Pixoto doesn't care. everyone is happy

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