Enlarged view option for voting

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as the images in the duels are so small is it possible to have an enlargment view option so that a voter has an additional means to judge the quality of the photo? I recently submitted a bird shot that looses so much of it's impact in the tiny duel windows it never really stood a chance of gaining good points..i am sure that if voters had the chance to see an expanded version before voting this (and many other good images from other players) would have a chance of a more critical and true vote..thank you
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Greg Van Dugteren

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gaiafrique

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Greg, one of the ways to check for this is to have a look at your photos at a small size before you post them - if they still "pop" in a miniature then they may make it during the duels. If, however, the detail is lost - either submit them to another site altogether or look at a way to crop them so that they "pop".
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Greg has a good idea, possibly a larger resolution if you hover over the image? like they do in the search engines. It would also help identify the over processed photos marked as pure.
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I am doing this now to some degree however my point is really that the duel views are really far to small to make good judgements on image quality including composition...there is no point in submitting negative space compositions for example.... also when the images are very equal in quality when viewed in the duel windows the only true way to fairly judge them would be to compare them in a larger view ..as it stands at the moment voters are most likely to pick images that have bright colours/ high contrast etc which does not necessarily make them good images yet they will win in the brief moment a voter gives them the once over...additionally the duel views are always in a black border which again precludes good images from "popping", particulalry many black & whites or low contrast bordered shots that get lost in the black background..if Pixoto's aim is to have a method of establishing well vetted stock photo's then an enlarged view option before voting is essential to weed out the average from the best
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This is one of many reasons for promoting the idea that there needs to be two options for players to submit photos. The first is the present scenario, which allows voting and scoring, the second is a portfolio which contains photographs which might be excellent (or dreadful) - but in the former case (excellent) quite simply will not win high votes because they do not "pop" to the popular vote.

Pixoto is going to lose ground to other stock photo sites who encourage photographers to upload all photos, irrespective of whether they are "popular" or not. The quality of photos will very likely improve greatly. Many (or at least some) folks haven't a clue what you mean about negative space - and vote on gut feel rather than any specific understanding of the art (and science) of photography.

I tried to raise the issue in this thread - but it kind of seems to have crashed and burned... (http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...)
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Greg - thank you for your feedback. We do plan to offer a high-resolution duel view in the near future. It is true that a lot can be missed by viewing a 500 pixel image vs a 900 pixel image.
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Greg Van Dugteren

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Thanks for your reply Jason..happy to hear of your plans for higher resolution views...I think this is crucial to developing Pixoto's credibility in the eyes of photographers as opposed to "snap shot" contributors. I enjoy the process of the duels however it is very frustrating to see a good image loose to a poor shot that looks OK in a postage stamp view.. in the majority of cases when I keep a shot, I have taken it with the idea in mind of the final image being printed in a larger view not smaller...I have found myself over saturating some entries just so they can at least compete in the duels... it seems that many voters consider only colour and contrast as the determining factors for which image is better however this may change if the views are larger...cheers.. Greg
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We have recently enhanced ImageDuel so that the size of the images are dependent upon the size of your browse. This means if you have a high resolution display you can get images that are up to 4X larger than our old imageduel view. We will review the results from users that view higher resolution images and see if improves the voting algorithm.

Let us know what you think!
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Love it! Thank you - very good indeed.

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