Duels seem to cater against the Nude and Boudoir contributors.

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in over 5000 dules I've only been able to vote against maybe 20 Nude and Boudoir. Most images are lucky to get maybe 10-15 duels in two weeks. How is that fair to contributors who support this genre. I can see the same purple flower 2000 times in 3000 duels and the same spider over and over. Please add duels fairly across the board. If others don't want to see nudes, they can turn them off. Its sad you stifel this category to protect others from seeing it. Why have it if you shorten our duels to make room for purple and pink flowers. It's pointless to even put photos here if they don't get enough votes to compete with voting years ago when this category could get hundreds of duels in a week not 10 or 12 in two weeks like now. I just finished 100 duels in a YEAR since I added them to an image. Pathetic.
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Hi Brian, 

We don't do anything to prevent that category from receiving duels other than if someone has mature content disabled. The majority of users have mature content disabled.

Participation went down when we removed the cover image and hid images altogether.We can go back and add the cover back in the category so people can realize to turn mature content on and see if this helps.
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I don't believe that. I have mine turned on. I did two tests. I went thru 6000 duels and saw 20-25 nude and boudoir duels. Last night after I sent this message I did 1000 duels and only 6 duels came up in all that time. You are stifling duels. How is it in 1000 duels last night only 6 duels have the genre i post in. It's not about mature being turned off. My test with my Mature ON! proves that is false. I didn't participate for over a year because of this and it's worse than ever. Images I added two weeks have only been in 12 duels in over two week. Photos where I added 100 duel boots over a year ago still have 70 duels to go. Maybe you are not hiding the Nude and Boudoir duels directly, buts it very clear that they are rarely showing up in dudels and something is wrong that you are not knowing or admitting too.

I also never rarely see the daily uploads in competition either. I checked out another guys profile who posted in Portraits of Women on Oct 9th and they have had over 225 duels. Something is wrong. I see the same black and white guy over and over with an umbrella. Please re look into your dueling system. Do your own test and run thru duels with the matur option on. Is there a time where they are on, a time where they are slowed down or sped up. You have something in an algorithm or setting and each time i'm on its rare to see the duels evenly run.

My Test last night.
1-124 duels 1 N/B (nude boudoir)
125-350 1 N/B
351-370 1 N/B
370-387 1N/B
388-411 1 N/B
412-619 1 N/B
620-1131 0 Nude/Boudoir duels.

1131 duels and I saw my category 6 times. Id say something is wrong.

The numbers do not lie. 6 duels in my category and zero that came up were from the day posted. Many were repeats and I skipped over them. The same lady in blue that I seen a dozen times, I skip over. The system is totally broken. You say you haven't slowed down the Nude/Boudoir category. I think you might want to look into it. Other friend of mine who used the platform also quit using it. Going pro just to boots duels is a horrible option and I see it does not help other either. I look at the pro users and see no difference. your system decided if ifs going to be good in the duels and pauses items based on faulty algorithms. Two, maybe three years ago. We could post an image and have a image value at 500-600 in a few hours. Now it takes weeks to days if they even get enough duels to add up. Even if the majority have the mature option disabled it doesnt change the fack mine is on and I saw very little to duel or vote on. Please look into this deeper. I used to love this site and had genuine feedback from users and now its a damn ghost town. 2500 or more purple and pink flowers. How about letting me turn off that feature. How many ways can you take a photo of a flower. Not many have been creative in making them exciting to see. I love flowers and landscapes, but that's not my category and if my category is only shown 6-10 times in a 1000 duels,. It is not worth it to be here anymore.
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for your research.  I will look into it deeper.
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Thank you.
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Perhaps it's because there are far more of non-mature photos than there are of mature photos. I for one, have mine turned off. Even then, I do get nude photos when the contributor doesn't bother to tag them as mature.
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I actually thought of that. I make sure to correctly tag mine as mature and even questionable portraits I keep in the mature area. When I looked at how many images were in the Nude/Boudoir category over the last year I knew it wasn't a amount of content thing. A friend of mine discussed the same thing and they noticed a huge drop in duels in their category too. They rarely come up anymore. I hope they fix it. I do love seeing everyone's work, but Im sure Im not the only one wondering what's going on. Thousands of duels to get 6 duels is a problem.
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Others have commented about slow image duals in other categories, too. when people comment about this, I think to myself (but don’t bother typing) that the overall reduced participation has got to contribute to all of this. Earlier this year, someone posted the actual numbers of users over the years and it was apparent that participation has declined. That message was deleted and then archived. And it seems logical that the reduced participation is related to the problems with awards being distributed on time and many bugs in the system. Have the 2018 awards even finished yet? But, this comment about nudes and boudoir category caught my eye. And as one who has contributed to this category in previous years, I realized I couldn’t even see my own “mature” pics. Then, I realized that my own “allow mature” button was off. That is an error - I submit to this category when I am an active member so why would it be turned off? It definitely wasn’t off before. I wonder if one of the updates accidentally turned everyone’s off and you have to go and change it again. That would explain why mine was off when it shouldn’t be and the crazy low duels (because if everyone’s turned off during an update, then very few people are seeing these pics - only the people who realized they needed it ‘on’.). I also think not seeing the images at all (versus the ‘cover’) makes it less obvious that the images are gone. Out of site, out of mind. I wouldn’t have realized my own pics were invisible to me until I read this thread. There have been many promises made by Pixoto that haven’t been followed through. Scott, I’m still hoping you can solve all these problems and get Pixoto back to the awesome, fun site it used to be.
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Hi Kelly and Lena, thanks for joining in. Participation has been flat all year. We have not seen any decline whatsoever, but we have not seen growth either. That being said, I must state that Pixoto was in a very bad position the end of last year and we have come a *long* way since then.

When I say bad position, I am referring to how poorly and bug ridden things had gotten. The site was getting attacked by spammers. The APIs the site were written in were becoming outdated and even the very platform it was running on was having a lot of issues.

But now we are in a different place. We have completely modernized and rewritten the platform and just yesterday we released the iPhone and Android apps (Disclaimer: There still is a lot to be fixed there). It has been a bumpy rode to here, but you can now see the light at the end of the tunnel and we can now begin to work on introducing new features and improvements.

One of those bumps along the way was an issue with duels when we moved it over to our new system. If you have not read about it, you can read about in on the Updates page. Now, however, the voting system is running flawlessly. There might be one last hiccup with mature voting, and I suspect I have an idea of what it is. I will confirm more on that later.

We did hold off on finishing up the last category of annual awards because we really didn't want to go there until everything was stabilized, but I think we are finally there. 2020 expect monthly awards to be automated on time and annual awards to all be delivered on time in March.
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Kelly I noticed something In what you just said. I can Log into my page and right away i turn on the mature section. I then upload when im active and after Im done uploading my pics, the page automatically brings me right back to my pictures page with the big yellow banner stating I uploaded photos. BUT! im now logged out of the Mature section again. WHY? Why is it turned off after uploading pics into the Mature section. SOmeone had to have put that algorithm into place. Its counterproductive and its silly to have to hit the mature button over and over again. With that being said, it still doesn't explain why only a few Matured duels come up un hundreds to thousands of duels and Im getting killed in the diels by dueling against myself. I see the results and I either lost or won against my own pics. If the web designers can hide our images from our duels, they certainly can prevent us from dueling against our own images. Thats like a cancellation of duels. These are long standing issues that many of us would like to see fixed.
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That might be a new issue. I will take a look at it and get it fixed
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There was definitely an issue there.  We just did a release right now that fixed it.
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That's good to know. I hope I see a difference. As to what area did you correct. Auto logging out of the Mature or Allowing more Mature in the duels?
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Auto logging out of the mature. This was definitely an issue. I am still investigating the duels.
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Im still auto logged out of mature after uploading to my category. So far its not so good. Ill see how the duels go.
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Thanks for the update Brian. I think that is happening because of a different issue altogether than what was fixed.  We will get working on that right away.
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Im going to take another break from this site. After about 1100 duels during the day today. I only had a handful of duels in my category. At first I had a bunch in a row, after that nothing. The Images that are in the Nude/Boudoir section only had about 2 to 3 dules urring the entire day. Thats terrible. Now way to climb or compete. And the one guy Fernando posts the same pic over and over in the chances no one else will post and its only for awards for this guy. All week long he posts the same pics if they lose. Its a joke. The fun has really been sucked out of this site.
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You can't get an award if you are the only photo and your images can't vote against themselves. I appreciate your concerns and we will get this remedied for you. You are not being ignored.
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We just did a release. Auto logging out of Mature is fixed.
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This is not a solved problem as the banner above suggests.
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Sorry Brian,
Jasenka must have marked this as solved by mistake. We will get this resolved (Monday at the latest).