Dueling same images again and again.

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I feel like some of my photos in the "landscape" category (which I thought was a large category) are dueling the same photos repeatedly. For the photo on the link below this is a small breakdown of the number of repeats:

1 image 7 times
4 images 3 times
6 images 2 times

That's roughly 10% of my duels being the same.

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Kimberly - from a mathematical point of view we don't see anything inherently wrong with it and 10% is acceptable to us - even in landscape. Because these are different voters it all helps develop the final score. I hope this helps.
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how about my example below - at about 90% with the same image?
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Thanks. After about a month here, I've come to realize that my images just aren't ever going to be competitive on this site. I see photos similar to mine on other profiles that I never duel against, but other images I duel 7 or 8 times. I've found even when I am winning more of my duels than losing, my score doesn't rise as high as similar photos I don't duel against. I made a post about this as well yesterday.
I don't shoot HDR which dominates the landscape category and seems to be favored among voters here, which is fine, we leave our photos in the hands of voters. I also realize culturally there is a difference in how we look at things, and certain cultures highly represented here prefer HDR, and bright "unnatural" colors, and who am I to argue with their preference. I prefer originality and creativity, which can be found here if you dig around, but if you take one look at the leaderboard in "nature up close" you'll find the same shots of flowers dominating that category. Are they pretty, sure, but are they creative and original...not so much.
There are so many sites out there, and everyone will find their niche. What I've learned is that my time may better be spent on a site where I get genuine critique and feedback thus helping me improve. But for those who have perfected their craft of a certain subject, and those who shoot in HDR, this is the place to be.
I appreciate all your help!
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They don't necessarily shoot HDR but process them in photoshop etc....and some over process.
And I agree re originality, sadly in some cases there isn't any, same lotus, same children, same veg/fruit dropped into water......good shots but boring after the first couple.
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Terry I agree. My first few days here I started following the "suggested photographers." At first I thought I thought "wow...pretty flower." Then as days wore on I started thinking "this again?"
And as for HDR and photoshop I also agree. On my old account a classmate and I shot pretty much an identical photo. In post he used an HDR program, and then bumped up the saturation by about 70%. I did minimal processing on mine. We posted them in the same category at the same time. As we were sitting side by side, I saw him marking his as "pure" and questioned him on it, so he did remove that. But sure enough his skyrocketed to the top, over 700, while mine hovered around 550. It was of a sunset over a lake...and our colors ended up not being the same at all. My sky was shades of orange, pink and yellow. His was a big firey ball of colors not found in nature. Our photos never met in a duel, nor did we duel any of the same photos...so that was proof positive to me what is favored here. Though in class I got one of the top 3 grades out of 70, and his was in the bottom 3, graded by professional photographers and artists. It solidified to me just how subjective things are :)
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Kimberley, "professional photographers and artists" will all look at things differently as well. Art is 100% subjective. Different school, different professors...could result in very different opinions. Everyone has a bias about something. My opinion: the only thing that matters is if the person who created the image is happy with it. It's fun to duel but that is all it is...fun. It's certainly not serious :-)

I do everything from very pure to very out-there, and I'm happy with it all. Some of my stuff I would never put on Pixoto because I don't think they would stand up well with just a one second glance. I also think that's why highly-processed photos do well here....because they are visually noticeable immediately. I use Redbubble for what I sell online and what sells the best for me there are photos that fall more in the "pure" area than "over-processed". I do very well on Redbubble with cemetery stone angels but cemetery photos don't seem popular here on Pixoto at all :-)
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example of my image being over dualed with the same image way too many times- and while there arent a ton in this category to be dualed against- there are at lease 30 submitted by other people to duaI with (I counted) Too often I get matched against my own images as well.

there's no excuse for this:

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Janna - I can see why you would think this looks disturbing. But the fact is your image wasn't supposed to be playing at all. The other image was continually boosted by the other user. That image cycles through the 20 or so images that it has available to duel with. Since your image isn't boosted it isn't being dueled at all except when the other image needs a partner. I'm not sure why the other user boosted so much - but we don't have limits on it currently so it is allowed...

I hope this helps.
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Perhaps a limit on the number of times an image can be boosted would be a good idea?
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What's wrong with boosting a photo? Pro members get 100 duels automatically but the only way to get to that # for non-paying members is to boost, boost, boost.

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