Does not look real/possible to me....Recategorize...?

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How is this allowed in Transportation when we know it is not/could not be real...has been created digitally...???
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Linda Hayes

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Sherry Andreason

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Why don't you think it is real Linda? There are a lot of places that still have steam trains. I went to a Rail Faire in Sacremento about ten years ago and saw hundreds of them in working condition. I believe there is a Daylight steam train housed in Seattle (or maybe Portland I can't remember)

Anyway just curious what is making you think it is not real?
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Chuck Gordon has the highest scoring image of all time on this site, and I know for a fact that his train shots are not digitally created. He is fortunate to have an awesome place where he can shoot these old locomotives, and is widely considered "master of the train shot."

As a side note, Linda, you seem all too quick to pounce on some of the more significant photographers on this site, as well as readily affixing the label to them that they are somehow cheating, as you did in your post concerning my fighting tigers shot. I have started a thread aimed directly at you and hope you read it and respond.

You have every right to your opinions, but I would ask you temper your accusations a bit, and look at the artists work before slandering them in public. Just a thought.
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Linda Hayes

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Well, I guess I don't know enough about steam engines, if this indeed looks real to you...Sherry, and so I am sorry...I was not questioning it being real in the fact that three were sitting on tracks, side by side, OR that steam engines are still around and being used...If ridden MANY trains in my life...[and it is true, I couldn't SEE the steam from the inside :) ]

The thing that made me question the picture was how forceful the smoke is billowing from each one...as if each one were forcefully, powerfully moving forward...Because of the steam/smoke...[and I had actually thought it to be COAL, for the smoke to be that black...] when I first saw the picture, I thought they were alll moving fast...until I noticed the track...

Now if it is REALLY true and possible that they can sit still on the tracks STILL have THAT MUCH forced steam and smoke coming from them...then I get it...

BUT...I thought I stated my QUESTION...[and confusion,] with all the "question marks" on it, in a way that people would KNOW I was simply 'asking' for other opinions, because I myself found it unbelievable...I had expected /was looking for someone to say IF and WHY it might be real...

Had I totally believed what I FELT...and blindly thought it was absolute, then I just would have reported it to be re-categorized, but by bringing it here, I was giving someone a chance to refute it.

I'm sorry, John, if anyone took offense, at how I stated my concern, and I'll try to temper that a bit more, but questioning/"pouncing" is my way of learning, and by not being gullible with EVERYTHING I see, is the way I push to learn more of what is possible to do, through photoshop and lightroom, NEITHER of which I have had any experience with..., and by questioning instead of reporting is the way I try to be FAIR! :) ...And, btw, I really DID think they were coal... :/
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Steam engines burned coal or wood to heat the boilers, the smoke you see emanating from the stacks is indeed from coal. The steam itself is trapped in the boiler / pressure tank, it is the built up pressure that powers the engine.

Please don't ask me to get more technical than that LOL my dad is the train buff in the family and I only know this stuff from listening to him for years. haha.

Anyway you are right, the trains are stationary on the track, but the fires can be stoked with the train sitting still. Meaning coal or wood is being loaded into the firebox to raise the temperature in the boiler.

I believe there are only a couple of instances where you would see actual steam. The whistle is steam powered and they can release steam to release pressure, that usually escapes down near the ground though by the wheels.

Ok my train knowledge is now taxed. LOL
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its a real shot Sherry, I'm on another forum and Chuck consistently produces great train shots.
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Sherry Andreason

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I know Terry :) I was just trying to explain to Linda regarding a couple of her concerns.
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Terry Gower

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I can back John up on this, Chuck takes great real pictures of trains.....and this is just another of his real great shots.
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If you look at the detail of the leaves in front of the smoke and how the smoke from all stacks mingle beautifully together then you can see its real imho.

The smoke moving away from the trains could be due to the wind.

All in all its a brilliant shot - simply stunning.
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Sherry...your knowledge of such variety continues to amaze me!! :) Thank you!!

Meanwhile Chuck also explained on the picture, to someone that was wondering, that though two were/could be going forward one was having to wait...

And thank you, Pat...yes, the wind direction was something I hadn't taken into consideration!!

I just seemed at the time to be a lot of energy wasted if they were all sitting still...but my mistake, and "Thank you, one and all!" :)
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I think he actually says all three were moving but one, No 11, has to stop before the tracks merge....
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Linda Hayes

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Sometimes I wish I had not seen that video on YouTube...at least till I understood more about Photoshop and Lightroom! :) No disrespect was EVER intended...Just very curious about learning how these AMAZING shots are made!!

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