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These two images were reported as to similar. They are two different photos one with the beak open and one with it closed which makes them two different images!!!!!
View duplicate image: http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/5j4m...
View original image: http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

I think it is about time to delete my account and move on. Already started deleting images!!!!!!!!
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What about these two they have been reported and nothing happens, one is just a closer crop.
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
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It is pretty obvious, if you get photographer of the year you don't have to play by the rules!
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My goal for the next 7 months is to, waste 6K duels a day, or 1.3 million duels.
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No, please don't delete and stop. Stay!
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Yes there was an almost identical situation in the 'One Day Chicken' contest
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Marvin, those images are very similar and one will be removed as soon as report team get to them. Please allow 24-48 hours for report team to act on reports.

Also please follow Policy about reporting in community - http://community.pixoto.com/pixoto/to...
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WOW, I see it finally happened. Took long enough.
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Some of the moderators are CRAP.

Why is this allowed http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
and this is disqualified http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
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It's not good enough that Pixoto staff say 'it's up to the moderators' when the rules are clearly being flouted, its not doing the reputation of the site any good at all.
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When you compain you get messages like this

Moderator:-> They should all have been DQ'd. I've made my opinion quite clear. On my panel they were all DQ'd. I suspect he complained to Pixoto and got them to over rule it.

So is the moderator lying or are Pixoto interfering as well ?
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Hello Brian, Pixoto staff will not interfere with moderation on community contests. The only time we will interfere if there is technical error which we need to correct (like too large title which prevents moderator to disqualify image).

I hope this helps.
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So its OK by you for a moderator to DQ some images for no apparent reason eg http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra..., while allowing duplicates.
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Hello Marvin, I will ask for clarification if your images are very similar. I will let you know as soon as I get reply.
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Hello Marvin, I got reply from management that images are very similar images, since they show same subject with same pose/scene - difference is only beak and that is not enough for images to be significantly different.
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That's all right I just resubmitted him! They are very definitely different images, So if I have two of the same bird sitting on the same branch one looking at me and one looking to the side they would be to similar?
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So we have some people who are allowed to enter images which are IDENTICAL apart from a minor crop and no action is taken and they even win multiple places in the same contest. Meanwhile some of us have ALL of our images deleted by the moderator as they are deemed to be 'too similar' even though they are clearly different photos and the people have completely different expressions eg.

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
and
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

This really does need to be addressed, there is one rule for some and another for others.
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Brian You just have to keep in mind that Pixoto is, for professionals by professionals and they DO get preferential treatment. Rule do NOT apply to them.
IE: Just watch when one of them puts on an image, within a mater of minutes there image will be in the top 10, even though any other image will take hours if not days to get as many duels.
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Hello Brian, was one of your images deleted from Pixoto or was one of your images disqualified from contest?
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Update on my goal, Wasted 2752 Duels, Day 3. only 197298 to go.
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What do you mean by wasted? I hope you don't mean that you are voting for the worse image on purpose. There's enough of that on this site as it is.
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Not that, never that! I just put 12 images on and only leave them if they go over 600, other wise I just delete them and resubmit a second group and repeat the process. When I vote, I take my time and decide which is the best image in my opinion.
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SHOOTING THE MESSENGER
Funny that after I raise this topic I get this message

Dear Brian Pierce,

Recently the image contained at the link below has been deemed to be very similar to another image in your portfolio. Our policies state you may only submit one version of an image (please see www.pixoto.com/contest) and we have therefore deleted this image.
View duplicate image: http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xpQV...

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

In the future please refrain from submitting images that are very similar. This helps keep the Pixoto Community (and your personal profile) diverse and fun.

We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,

Jericca
Pixoto Report Images Team
report@pixoto.com
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THIS IS A FARCE
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I have to agree they are the same, with slight contrast adjustment. If there is a difference it is not noticeable.
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I have had them Delete and image that they said was cropped from another image when they were of two separate vehicles. They were both old trucks, same type but different colors. Some times they miss the minor details, and then will not back down.
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Hello Brian, I'm not sure what the issue is. One image is clearly crop of another one, and that is not allowed per our rules, so later one was removed.

I hope this helps.
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No problem it its done consistently - but its not some people get away with it some don't
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... see post below http://www.pixoto.com/contests/the-be... - all almost identical images - from the same photographer - who was also the moderator - no one else got any awards - what a farce
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Things go from the ridiculous to the farcical - take a look at the best of Windows

contest. http://www.pixoto.com/contests/the-be...

All the images winning an award are remarkably similar, some are almost identical.

Look again and they are all by the same photographer

... who also happens to be the person who set up and moderated the contest.
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Hey Brian, you reckon he had any Windows left? Just teasing
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No Surprises here.
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Hello Brian, please report images that are very similar. We rely on users to report very similar images and if nobody reports them, report team can not act and remove very similar images.

I hope this helps.
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Brian don't even rock the boat, they will come after you. They deleted one of mine that has been OK for 6 mo. And the one that had the most awards.
Just waiting for them to start on my Squirrel images, because they are all if the same type of Squirrel.
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Hello Marvin, we will only deleted images that are over 6 months old if they are duplicates or one if crop (or zoom) of another. Also we will always delete later submitted image, regardless of the score or awards. If your image was on site for more then 6 months and it is duplicate/crop - that just means none of the users reported it (until now).

I hope this helps.
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Jasneka : I am at a point I don't care!!!!! You guys are going to do, what you are going to do.
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Why have you deleted this image - thay are not the same

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/0FGP...

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
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Hello Brian, zoom/crop of same image is by definition very similar image, which is not allowed. Please check our rules here: http://www.pixoto.com/photography-com... and on that page you can find links to examples of very similar images too.

I hope this help.
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Brian, Nice Picture. Unfortunately, I have to agree they are the same image just a different crop.
Whether it was done at the time of shooting or cropped later (which it appears to be) is not the point.
I take photos in High speed 6 FPS, so i can have a lot of pictures that are nearly identical and will only use one of then even though they are in fact separate images.
At last count We have over 313K images.
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Thank you Marvin for helping Brian, you are correct.

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