Birds versus insects = unfair

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Why should birds be dueled with insects? I admit, they belong to the same general category. But most times, the birds do not stand a chance when compared to macro photos of insects in all their minute detail. This is inherently unfair. Birds are far more difficult to shoot, especially when taken in the wild - then you duel them with insects sitting on a can - and they are just blown away.
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Charlie

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You're right. There had been ideas and suggestion to make another category for insects but the admin seems ignore about this idea. For me i really love to have a separate category. hope those photographing insects will support this idea.

not only with birds wilfred. with big animals too.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been feeling this way...Why not birds...separate from animals, separate from insects...3 categories!

I too, was thinking how much harder to photo birds!!

There is, of course at least one tog that has it figured out!...Now if someone would just tell me what type camera and settings he uses....that would be nice! :)

http://www.pixoto.com/subramanniyan.mani

This guys work is amazing, but why will he not share his info??....And if the photos are really PURE as stated...why wouldn't the camera info appear on his pics?
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Damn right. A housefly blown up to show their million-carat eyes will always defeat a lion or tiger taken in the wild, even with the element of danger thrown in. I have had my bird shots overshoot the 600 mark, only to be taken down back to earth with macro photos of insects. Unfair, unfair, unfair.
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I agree with you, Wilfredo, and I, and others, have brought up this suggestion in the past to no avail. I believe Admin's thinking is that there are not enough macro insect shots to support a separate category, and therefore winners in that category will never have enough entries to qualify for prize money. At the same time they feel it will cut into the animal category and subsequently will also lower the chances of higher cash prizes for the weekly winners. Judging by the number of macro insects submitted on a daily basis, I'm not sure I agree with this assessment, but then I'm not Admin.

FYI, I don't agree with your assessment that birds in the wild are more difficult to shoot than captive birds, say in a zoo, per my response to your nice comment on one of my bird shots.
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Wilfredo Garrido

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John Larson, you're one of my idols. I rue the day when your iconic photo of a bald eagle, splashing half-submerged in water, will be beaten by a housefly sitting on a can.
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John is correct on the reasoning behind the reason we keep Insects in the Animal category.
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Linda Hayes

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Are you kidding??? Just after doing a few duals, we understand why there are so many flies and grasshoppers in the world!! LOL!! I, for one, am REALLY getting tired of the overdone mating insects!! :)
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I have taken photos of birds and insects and found insects far harder to photograph.
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Wilfredo Garrido

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Which is more difficult to shoot is not the main issue. It's the different circumstances in which they are taken. Since shooting insects require macro lenses in most instances, they should be categorized in "Nature Up Close." Then, the problems raised by John will be addressed - e.g., number of entries, weekly prizes. Nobody loses. I think this is a reasonable compromise.
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This is inherently unfair. Birds are far more difficult to shoot - these are your words I believe.
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Sherry Andreason

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Every animal is a challenge to shoot, insect, tiger, bird, dog, cat, ... all of them. They never do what you want them to under any situation. It does not matter if they are in a Zoo habitat, in the wild or in the case of an insect, in a terrarium on your table. I admire the insect photographers for their patience, macro shots have such shallow depth of field, I can just imagine once the camera is set up all it takes is a small movement to push the insect out of focus. Regardless I believe all of the Animal photographers have faced challenges and know what I am talking about.

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