Best Photographers of the Year Awards schedule?

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Now that 2014 is here, will there be a schedule of Best Photographers Awards for each category being published anytime soon?
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It wouldn't matter but the " Photographer of the year" gets a badge on there home page and several thousand points both of which can boost there profile and position on the leader board !!

Whilst the Photographer who has worked hard for the year gets Nothing !!!!!

I agree with you Susan why cant they recognize both the Best Photos of the year and the highest placed photographers of the year.

And as for only getting to the top of the leader board with mass submissions, if i didn't get top 10 places at all and only ever got 10 & 20% the points allotted would not get me off the bottom of the leader board !

If i added only 5% awards to it i might get over the half way mark or up to 3/4 but to get to the top You have to get top 10 places !

so it wouldn't matter how many entries i submitted there is only 10 places that would make any difference to my position on the leader board,
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makes sense...
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Here's something for everyone to chew on, as well as Pixoto staff, and perhaps satisfy those togs who think player position at the end of the year should be rewarded and recognized in some manner.

Since player position means squat right now in the grand scheme of things, except for the fact that the top players for the year are shown in each category, as are the top scoring images in each category, I would suggest the following change:

Under Accolades, an award should be shown for the top 20 players in each category, giving their rank, plus additional points for this award...something like 20,000 points for first, 19,000 for second and so on down to number 20 which would receive 1.000 points. Another way to do this would be to create a separate Players Accolade section above or below the regular Accolades section. The significance of both the Players Accolade and Accolades section should be fully explained by Pixoto as to how these awards are earned so there are not so many questions and complaints at the end of the year, as there have been in the past.

Just a thought.
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That works for me ! be interested who else agrees ?
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I can see there is a lot of passion around this discussion. All arguments are valid but we have chosen a path in the past that we plan on sticking with. Here's a quick rationale:

Photographers who submit very high number of images show up high in the player leader-board and have lots of awards. The annual leader-boards are persistent and a photographer that is on the top for a year will stay on the top always. We believe this to be a desirable outcome.

The photographer of the year awards are a way to recognize photographers who have truly amazing imagery who may not be as active on the site. These photographers may win some awards but will not show up high in the player leader-board. The photographer of the year awards were designed to recognize this and that is why we focus on the top 10 images in a category.

We have a history of doing it this way and thus making any kind of change requires a clear rationale for doing so. I believe that given the variety of the opinions on this matter that there is not a clear better choice and thus for this year we will stick with the existing methodology.

I hope this helps.
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Well, I hope you review your policy, Jason, because it seems some folks work hard all year to gain their "player placements" and at the end of the year, you folks at Pixoto basically say "it doesn't matter". It would be really difficult to tally up everyone's average to see where one might stand for the year, which does make it a little difficult to compete... You either need to review and revise your top photographers system or review and revise your listing of "top players", which apparently are meaningless in the grand scheme of things... JMO
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How are players of the year - photographers of the year decided here at Pixoto? I am confused.
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That is ok, but then award for top 10 images should be called "photo of the year" not photographer... IMHO - for example - if 1st person has one lucky shoot and that photo does extremely well and takes top place in that category and 2nd person has 10-20 photos in top 50-100 (2nd, 9th, 12. place etc.) and most points in that category then 1st person should get award for best photo in that category for year and 2nd person for best photographer in that category. That way good image would be awarded but also someones effort and continuos quality of images would get award...
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Jason They say it all ! and i totally agree

I know the mass entry excuse was there in the past but when you cut the points for 10 & 20% awards to a meaningless amount and reduced 5% whilst increasing top 10 place award points the "mass entry" excuse went out of the window !

Yes it is possible to maintain a top place on the leader board but only with a high number of good images ! we have seen a number of members rise through the leader board very quickly with the 40,000 + monthly awards for top place images just as we have seen the top leader board move into 6 figures just as quick !

But your decision to run a competition encourage people to better there position on a leader board, where you number them "Rank Them" according to there points totals for the year, you change the points values to make it harder for lower ranked images to gain position on that leader board ( which is what you did when you lowered the value of 20, 10 & 5% awards whilst massively increasing the points value for top 10 positions ) only to discard the whole thing at the end of the year because it dosnt suit you is unfair to hard working members who have spent the year abiding by your rules !

Your decision to award Photographer of the year to images with high scores, is flawed as has been said by many, taking 10 good images at some point in a 12 month period dosnt make them photographers of the YEAR there are members who are well deserving of that title but that is based on the leader board not your flawed rule.

But i dont expect the decision to be reversed because 200 high scoring images in each category looks so much better as a stock boost than 20 top players in each category and the Market place is all its about at the moment !gain position on the

Maybe this year you could actually market the site accurately and point out from the start that the leader board is of no actual value because whilst you encourage members "players" to gain position in the ranking it counts for nothing because at the end of the year the award is based on something that in 2013 was never mentioned ?? or did i miss the post suggesting members submit there best work to get the top 10 scoring images ?
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Also it was hard for me to delete my account, understand pixoto rules fully and their similar image policy but the photographer of the year award does seem to go out for those who don't really have passion and good eye than those that i have seen that have fantastic images.

I am just here to base my opinions and believe that there are true photographers on here that get missed out.
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Schedule has been posted on the blog.

http://blog.pixoto.com/
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What is this category?

13-Jan Mon Monthly
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Those are the monthly awards. The schedule shiws dates of all the awards during that period.
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Oh, gotcha... I was thinking this was just the schedule for the annual awards....
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How to compute for the top ten images to be in the photographers of the year?
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A Quote from the Blog :

" We want to make sure the Top Photographers have consistently great images – not just a few lucky shots"

I thought you were basing it on there 10 best shots in a 52 week period ? that's not "Consistently" great images !!!

I am getting pig sick of the way this site is twisting things to suit its self i used to think it was a great site and i would defend it when people knocked it but now, i find my self wondering why i waste my time, because what do we get out of it ?

There;s no reason to aim for awards unless you get top 10 places because the points for the rest are pointless, & if you do aim for the points, why bother because at the end of the year they are binned as a waste of time anyway ! the topics for want of a better word are often based on "USA" not so much for the rest of the world, American football, baseball, storms just after you have the hurricane fire just after the forest fire, american flag !!!!!

The only trouble is there is no other site like it to move to yes there are other sites but even with the flaws and the blatant favouring to more marketable shots i havn't found anywhere else to go,,,,,,,, but i am still looking because like i say at the beginning i am getting Pig Sick of the way you are treating us here
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So, out of curiosity, when does/did voting stop on the 2013 images?
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Voting for all images slows down significantly after high amount of duel is cast. It all depends on how well image is scoring (photos that score well will have more image duels then photos that do not score well) and if you boost it, it will continue dueling whenever is was submitted.
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Not the answer I was looking for... how can you select the best photos of 2013, when the scores change based on images submitted in 2014?
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We need to allow photos that were submitted on last day of the year some time to accumulate similar number of votes as other photos submitted earlier. The same system is used for every award (daily awards are issued next day on 3pm GMT so photos from previous day do compete with photos from the day the daily award is issued on, also weekly awards are issued next week on Wednesday and monthly awards are issued next month on second Tuesday).
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I am still curious how a site that runs competitions 52 weeks a year, that's 365 days so at the very least a minimum chance to enter 365 entries a year more if you enter more than 1 image a day, can justify a statement like

" We want to make sure the Top Photographers have consistently great images – not just a few lucky shots"

how can 10 images out of a minimum entry of over 300 and that's allowing for a 2 month gap where no entries are made how can 10 images be classed as "consistently great images" ?

If you are going to invent your own rules to suit your own needs at least try to make them believable ?
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In the wedding category, as you can see, I am first with a large different from the second and a very large difference with all the others.... do you think is by luck?.... can you calculate what is going to be my position with this way of scoring..... do you think that is fair? I am very sorry about your decision...
so one player that only kept his best ten images will be the best potographer-player of the year? why didn't you say that before so I wouldn't spend so many hours voting and playing every day all year around.... why should i collect so many awards and scores..... if you can win this contest with only ten image with great score...? I thought that the purpose of the game is to play with many photos, if this is the new rule then nobody will play and we will only try to get the best score which in most cases earned by luck... in a few words I don't think that this is fair and i dont thing that ten great photos make someone the best photographer......

ps. if this is the rule why we cannot see the list of the best scores for each category for the last year so that we can calculate our position in the scoring..... or at the best photography of the year table the system doesn't calculate the results so we know at all time what is our position....after all we all play for being in the best photographer of the year wall....
the system is not fair since a photo that earned a large score by luck or mistake now have much more value and the voting system error is now multiplied by much more... all the scoring systems that want to avoid these kind of errors is spreading along as many samples as they can to avoid the multiplication of an error.... so why not the best photographer to be te one who has the best score in his best photo?
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Hello Sofia, the method for choosing Best photographer of the year is same since this site has started. Thank you for your suggestion to put up Best of the year photographers leaderbord, it was already suggested by John in another thread and management is informed about this suggestion.
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I think the point being ignored is that you don't tell anyone that is the aim of the "contest" and whilst everyone is trying to get to the top of the leader board the end result for that has no bearing, Rather a completely unlisted & unrelated competition is the one you hand out awards on !!!
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I think you're wrong Sofia, you have really a lot of great photos but very few of them entered the 700 club, which still talking about your poor quality, but in spite of it all, I hope that you will be in top 20,you deserve it,
A Rule 10 of the best photos you can see on the blog that you're reading, this is true from the beginning Pixoto, as in all major competitions for the best photographers in the game is just one possible or three photos, anywhere in the world there is no competition with 1000 photos .. .
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thank you Ralph....
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looking at your pictures I think you'll be around 20.th place, that should be satisfied by the quality of your art.... i thimk
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MojKutak :implying that Sofia has 'poor quality' in your comment above is ridiculous. The wedding category doesn't have as many 700+ images as the larger categories of People and Nature... top images for each day have lower scores than the top images in the other categories due to the number of images submitted. Also, there are numerous 700+ images out there of "poor quality" images that get voted up for reasons beyond my understanding....
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MojKutak Portal your are nobody in this game.... and nobody gives a f... about what you THIMK
can you explain this... http://www.pinterest.com/mojkutaknet/.....?
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One thing that has been made very clear through this and similar threads is that Pixoto don't actually give a toss about our opinion and will do what they want anyway !! the lack of discussion and input from Pixoto as well as the firm no we will do it our way from Jason at both ends of the thread neither of which could be called discussion prove that !

Well i am sure the same will happen next year as it did last but can i again please ask that if you insist on ignoring the majority of posts and do what you want anyway, could you at least change the name to "best photographs of the year"

a, 10 images in a possible 365 daily competitions is not enough to make them best photographer of a YEAR! &

b, By giving the award to people who have not achieved what you tell us to do all year but merely submit 10 good images is an insult to anyone who has !

There was some talk of possibly giving awards to both the usual and the leader board top 20 dose the decision to do it the same way you always do end the discussion on the 2nd set of awards ?

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