"Best of 2012" schedule?

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For Pixoto staff...will you be posting a schedule for releasing "Best of 2012" photo selections, as you did last year, as well as awarding best category togs for the past year?
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Hopefully they won't be announced before they sort out the difficulty with duplicate awards. You may well be even higher in the overall than you show as the ones above you have as much as a half million point discrepancy between their 2012 points and their profile points. According to Jason, the profile points are correct and they are much lower than the 2012 points currently being shown.
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I understand, Shirley. Seems to be some trouble in paradise here, but I rarely get a response from questions I pose. They just seem to slide by and be ignored. Must be an English thing. Don't think this was really a difficult question to answer. Know they are busy, hopefully trying to work out the point discrepancy, but c'mon..you want to be a major factor in the photo site relevancy, you need to step up to the plate, maybe increase the staff, make people feel like they may be important and appreciated for their contributions...just sayin'
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you are in right.
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but I need to add... probably when they start this site , they were sure how response will be lower that is actually and now when they got a big respones from totally unknown authors world wide dislocated, they can not handle with it... I saw great photos from for example young African photographers, which hard pass 400 points... thats show to me ... here is something a bit wrong.... in same time midium quolity photos from authors based, shall I say in " developed west" or surpriselly far away east are HIGH ranked.. indonesia, india, malasija... many people got many points... thats show to me that actually system das nnot work well. we can imagine situation that is easy to manipulate voting... photographer upload photo, in same time 50 " friends2 voting and in math way is posiblle that his photo goes UP..... it is easy to see if you compare quolity of " winning" " amazing" " greatest" .....this is my private opinnion, based at long research and long contribution with more than 1050 photography works.... it is pitty, some people will feel bad and sad if they uplaod their good, honest photo works and they got 400 ponits..and probably they will stop contribute...to all which " lose " a lot i can say.. dont be sad, rules arent fair enough. best regards to all
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Yes Trey, I hate being a "squeaky wheel" but I think this is an important issue. We need to believe that our scores and points are accurate, otherwise all credibility is lost. Pixoto has definitely had some growing pains, it would be nice to see the serious problems addressed before trying to get the stock photo business running.

Vesna, there will always be cheaters. It would take a full time staff to keep ahead of them. It is sad to see obviously poor quality photography winning high scores while high quality can barely make it in some instances, as the one you refer to. It does discourage the high quality photographers from continuing :(
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I'd like to hear the answer to the postings for Best of 2012 also.
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As would I. Just once it would be nice to have a question acknowledged.
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Let's keep this question bouncing in the upper ether then until it gets answered! Thank you for asking it! Am interested despite the fact that I haven't a snowball's of coming within cosmic reach of featuring on the schedule LOL!
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Pixoto Team,
Could you please advise when Best of 2012 will be posted..
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Bump to the thread... Please Pixoto Team respond to this on Monday if possible?
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Let's hope the staff responds on Monday. It would be nice to know when the Best of 2012 will be announced.
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Here's the tentative schedule for the Best of 2012 awards:

1/9/2013 Week 2 2013
1/10/2013 Animals
1/11/2013 Professional People + Travel Locations
1/12/2013 Products & Objects + Backgrounds + Holidays
1/13/2013 Nature Up Close
1/14/2013 December 2012
1/15/2013 Landscapes
1/16/2013 Week 3 2013
1/17/2013 Dogs + Cats
1/18/2013 Nudes & Boudoir + Food and Drink
1/19/2013 Sports & Fitness + Wedding
1/20/2013 Artistic Objects + Abstract
1/21/2013 Babies & Children + Digital Art
1/22/2013 City, Street & Park + News & Events
1/23/2013 Week 4 2013
1/24/2013 Transportation + Novices Only
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Good day Jason how about the Instagram & Mobile, Buildings & Architecture Category. Thanks have a nice day to all.
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Are there no awards for the Instagram/Mobile category?
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Good catch - those will go out on 1/25/2013
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How about Buildings and Architecture?
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Corrected above...
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We are working on correcting point totals on the Player Leaderboard. Unfortunately it is exceedingly complicated. That said the point totals on the leaderboard will have NO BEARING on the results for Best of 2012 - for both photographers and images.
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Thanks Jason for gettting back. I see the issue and constrain. Pixoto community is getting bigger and bigger these days.
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why have a leaderboard if they have no bearing ?

strikes me that if you spend all year achieving a high place on the leader board but lose out because someone else has submitted 10 good pictures, to say they are the best of 2012 is a little wrong
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Personally I would give the award to the person that has 10 good pictures rather than 1 good picture. How would you feel if you worked your whole life at something and was consistently good at it and somebody that has one lucky shot takes away all that work.
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Surely you have that backwards if someone works hard all year and achieves high places alll year to reach the top of the leaderboard, why would you give it to someone who pops in at the last minute with 10 good shots ?

Your football superbowl isnt played by the best to teams at that time, its the ones who fought all season to get to the top ?

Top image is the best all year not the top one in December when it was suggested people enter after all ?

Maybe i am wrong but its just my opinion ?
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You may want to read my post again Ralph. I was agreeing with you. My point was that the one that has the most great shots should get the award....
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Sorry Andrew been a long day
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Quote from Pixoto's announcement: "The Top Photographers of 2012
In January Pixoto will give special year-end awards to the top 20 photographers of 2012 in each of our categories. ... To find the best we average the ImageScore of the top 10 photos submitted by each photographer in the category. The highest average wins."

The argument above is why not take the top 20 based on total image score ...

Personally, I tend to agree with Pixoto, to compare the best 10 photos instead of total image score. Why?
Take for example:
Tog A have 10 photos at each of the top 10 position of the year (1, 2, ... up to 10).
Tog B have 121 photos all at Top 5% of the same category.
If my calculation is correct, Tog B will have a higher total image score compared to Tog A.
But which one do you prefer to be the best tog, A or B?
Personally, I pick Tog A.

If you want the tog with total image score wins, it means Tog B will win ...
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I agree with Jenny. I would much rather see that quality rather than quantity will determine the top photographers for 2012. It is actually nice to know that someone entering up to 100 images a day in the same category will also have to have some good quality. :))
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Yes i agree quality should beat quantity, I would like to see the 10 & 20% awards given as badge only after all the points are of no real value anyway, then redistribute the points across say top 20 places instead, when you consider in animals for instance there are over 16000 players and 10 positions with worthwhile points, its daft really, but thats another debate !

If however someone wins dozens of top 10 places ie good images over the last year but there average is low 700s for top 10 images they will miss the top 20 dispite there position on the leader board, where someone else entering 10 images in the last 2 months with a 720 + average would stand a good chance

Which is the best tog of the year ! and which is the best tog of that momnent ?
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I guess that means the Leaderboard throughout the year is not an indicator of who the top photographers really are. I guess we will see when the results are finally out. It seems that the leaderboard is more about who has the most points accumulated and those points can be accumulated by posting vast quantities of images. So if that is the case then each year the top Photographer awards are going to be a mystery until the end of the year, not a bad thing :) Will encourage more quality and less quantity, hopefully.
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I am curently in 4th place on the leaderboard, not through Quantity i only submit maybe 6 images a day, if a photo gets less than 5% i will often resubmit itor occasionally delete it which wipes off the lower award.

My average is around 705 ish for my top 10 images so i am not expecting to be in the top 20 for my category and i dont mind that, i aplaud the photographers who have put in the effort to maintain a top position and get in the top 20 for the year too !

I do object to the idea that seems to be going here that a photographer only achieves a top place by over subscribing each day and running up a substantual points total on 10 & 20% awards, a daily 20% award in animals is around 17 points it would take years to acheive 900,000 + points which is where the top players are !

There are 16,000 + players in animals, all chasing a top 10 places each day after that 11 onwards the points drop off dramatically... the quality however dose not !
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Thanks, Jason...know adjusting the point totals on the Player Leaderboard and putting together the Best of 2012 is a consuming effort, but think you have made alot of members happy by posting this schedule.
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Thank you Jason!
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I believe we had quite a few category changes/additions during sometime in 2012. Will the 'older' categories not currently in use also be awarded for 2012.

There used to be a "Photojournalism" category. Were the older images submitted into that category reassigned to the "News & Events" category?
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All images in old categories were transferred to new categories and will be awarded if in the top 20%
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one of the victim from category changing is me ..lol ...used to be #1 in fashion ...since it compiled with people/portrait ...and old point have been transfered ..have to climb up to the top again using the old fashion points that i got and joining the already top player position in people/portrait category which by the way get a lot bigger points than the "old" fashion category if you're in the top ten daily/weekly/monthly ...

just wish you guys can recalculate how many points from my award if it counted using the people/portrait algorithm ...not using the fashion points algorithm that have been transfer .. it will be a lot more fair to me :) ...count how many #1 daily and weekly and monthly that i got using the portrait/people algorithm ...

thank you :)
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UPDATE: We tried to run the Animal category early this morning but our system couldn't handle it do to the size of the category. As such we have modified our schedule to be:

1/10/2013 Week 2 2013
1/11/2013 Products & Objects + Backgrounds + Holidays
1/12/2013 Professional People + Travel Locations
1/13/2013 Products & Objects + Backgrounds + Holidays
1/14/2013 Animals
1/15/2013 December 2012
1/16/2013 Landscapes
1/17/2013 Week 3 2013
1/18/2013 Dogs + Cats
1/19/2013 Nudes & Boudoir + Food and Drink
1/20/2013 Sports & Fitness + Wedding
1/21/2013 Artistic Objects + Abstract
1/22/2013 Babies & Children + Digital Art
1/23/2013 City, Street & Park + News & Events
1/24/2013 Week 4 2013
1/25/2013 Transportation + Novices Only
1/26/2013 Instagram & Mobile + Buildings & Architecture
1/28/2013 Nature Up Close

In addition we plan to announce the Best Photographers of the Year on January 21st.
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Ummm... two rounds of Products & Objects + Backgrounds + Holidays (11th and 13th)???

Strength to you and the system...
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Jason, is there an updated schedule?
Today I received Digital Art award ... which supposed to be 22-Jan?
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How is the schedule progressing?
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This is the question/answer I was looking for. I'm sure it's all tentative but, good to know. Thank you for the update, Jason! Cheers.
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Now that you've started assigning yearly awards, do the categories that have not been processed yet continue to accrue points? In other words, do I have to worry that a sudden spate of voting might drop my images or push my competition above me after others have already been awarded?
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A quick question :)

This morning I have received 4 best of the year for Cats, but they are scheduled for 1/18.

Is this a mistake?
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Also received the dogs and cats awards today...
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They must have changed schedule :)
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Since the schedule has clearly changed - and awards are even being given for 2013 already, would it be possible to get some idea of the updated schedule?

Thank you!
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While I received my 'best of 2012' Animal awards today (GMTtime), I'm puzzled that I receive yearly awards for photos I've posted in December before the month-of-December awards were distributed.

Here is an example in case of a photo with a day, week, and year award, but no month (December award) yet.

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...

If the (December) month contests are still in flux, how could the yearly awards be settled.
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They have a "tentative" plan (above) and judging by that, the final numbers might not be known until the end of this month. It seems the "tentative" plan has run amok a couple of times anyway, with the dogs and cats sections appearing from nowhere. Great dog pics by the way!
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:-) Thanks Amanda, your kind words are much appreciated!

Regarding my comment though, the yearly award for the photo has already been granted. It's monthly hasn't. This does not make sense to me. Not that I didn't appreciate the honor of the yearly award, but there is a natural order that things ought to happen that would suggest that the monthly awards should be awarded before the yearly, ....I think!
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They certainly keep you thinking don't they?! Maybe they have the monthly numbers tucked away in a secure location to keep us in suspense. Good luck anyway, I'm sure the wait will be worth it.
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:-) ...not that I'll be losing sleep over it, but, hey... take care, Amanda!
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FYI - that image got a 2013 award by mistake. It was submitted in January so isn't elegible for 2013 awards until 2014...
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Dear Jason,

While I'll be missing the points, please remove the 2012 year awards that were awarded by accident (are other such accidents?) to these two 2013-submitted photos of mine:

http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
http://www.pixoto.com/images-photogra...
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Well this is embarrassing. We ran Dogs and Cats yesterday (because they are smaller categories and we are still putting in the new server to run Animals) and a bug in our software caused the software to ignore the year filter and thus the awards for 2012 were messed up. We are going to have to re-run them this week. The most likely outcome of this is that your position will stay the same or rise. Sorry for the confusion.

We're going to try to stick to the schedule above the best we can - but things may move around.

Monthly awards for December were successfully assigned tonight - but are still being sent...
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...ooops, that too, Jason. I had shot that photo in December, but I had indeed submit it this year. So, things are even more messed up. Hopefully, things will get straighten out soon.

Happy New Year!
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Would it be at all possible to update the schedule?

Thank you...
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In the drop down list for "Today" "Yesterday" "Last Year", etc I saw, if only for a few minutes "2011" & "2012". I think it might have been New Year's Day.

Is it possible, after the 2012 awards are given, those 2 option can be permanently added?
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Good afternoon! I've been notified that I have 7 yearly awards (thus far) but am only able to identify 1 of them. (One image has been flagged with the award. The other 6 have not.)

Are yu all working on that? I'd love to know what the others are.

Pleas and thank you in advance.

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