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We have been requesting for quite long time to modify our Film release and title date from BILAL: A Legend Breaks Free (2015) to A New Breed of Hero (2016) but no success and it’s effecting badly on our movie as it’s seems the movie has released already. However, we are planning to release in Fall 2016

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3576728/

The movie was screened to Dubai Film Festival last year in December with the name of Bilal. Request from IMDB to please help us immediately.

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Arif Jilani

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2015 is the correct year for this title under IMDb rules, sorry.  Please see http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?titleformat
We also associate the year of first public screening with each title as an aid to recognizing and distinguishing similar titles. For TV titles this is the broadcast year of the first episode. For movie titles this year is either the year of general release or of a festival presentation if earlier 
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Dear Col,

Request you to please correct movie year, because:

1)      We did not public this movie in 2015

2)      It was not screened, it was premier only in Dubai Film Festival

3)      We modified movie name from BILAL to Bilal: A New Breed of Hero

4)      We modified more than 100 shots after that

5)      We are releasing this movie worldwide in September 2016 only

6)      We are starting marketing after fixing including IMDB

7)      2015 confusing our distributors and audience

8)      We have never sold tickets

9)      We can’t go for awards

10)   We are enrolling our 2nd movie on IMDB after fixation

I hope these make sense to correct year. Kindly support us.

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Arif,

So that users can understand what they see on the pages of IMDb, the rules need to be uniform and not adjusted due to preference of one person.

The year next to the title should be the year of it's initial release, commercial or not, even if it's a release via and event.  So the year should be kept as is unless you can prove it did not screen at the even listed and had no releases in 2015.  But then, that'd be inappropriate since you've said that it, indeed, screen in 2015.

Further, the title should be as released. So it should be Bilal if what you're saying is, that's how it appeared on screen during the 2015 release and subsequent title should be listed as alternate titles.

See the guide for title formatting:

How are titles formatted? How do you choose the year shown in the title?
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Arif Jilani

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Thanks for the reply, But I meant it was not screened it was premier and not for public as well.

I am not asking IMDB to change any rule and with IMDB on this part. The movie was actually completed on Feb 8th, 2016

Can IMDB sort this?

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Arif: It looks like the film (then titled Bilal) was on the regular schedule of the Dubai International Film Festival in 2015. See http://web.archive.org/web/20151222105551/http://dubaifilmfest.com/en/6750/dates.html.

The film was also reviewed by both Variety and The Hollywood Reporter on the same day as the festival screening.
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Arif Jilani

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This is correct, we made premier of Bilal in DIFF but that not was for commercial, screening neither for public and the movie was not completed that time also. How can we fix this issue?

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I don't know what you mean by, "not screened it was premier." Can you explain what you mean?

Was it you or your crew that submitted the Dubai Film Festival as a release in the first place? I am wondering why if it never was shown. Having sold tickets or not is not relevant.  It's whether is was shown to the public or not.  Knowing the release info was there, did you not make efforts to remove the invalid data? I am sure the festival has a website. Does it list what was shown last year? If so, that might be enough to prove it hasn't been released. 

As to changes being made, if there were significant changes, I believe you can list the first one correctly as Bilal (2015), then add the second version as a different title or different version. I really don't know that much about that, but doubt that 10% changed and presumably the same cast/crew would meet that criteria. 

Anyway, since its year of first release was 2015, and as you kind of agreed above saying it's premier was at DIFF 2015, the date of first release should be 2015.  The way to change it is to correct the release dates.  So, after explaining it was released at DIFF 2015 (and probably submitting that in the first place), you'd now have to show that it was not screened at all there.  The enter its correct release date.  The year next to the title appears by automation based on the entries on the release dates page. So having all the data accurate results in the page being accurate. No one will manually change that date next to the title.
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Arif Jilani

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Dear BluesmanSF,

I am very thankful for your kind reply and support.

It was premier not screened. Hence only artist, crew, celebrities and guest attended this event and that too be one time, so it was not for public.

We have never updated and made release date 2015 in IMDB. Maybe IMDB team can diagnose, who did this?

The movie even was not 100% complete that time and we got final DCP in Feb 8th, 2016 after 100% completion.

You can check this link: http://web.archive.org/web/20160119093827/http://dubaifilmfest.com/en/films/41752/bilal.html

They also says its premier

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Then that's how I'd approach it. Not saying you need it changed for "marketing" or other reasons...saying that the information is wrong. Have you made a submission to remove the incorrect release date?

Premiers, by the way, can many times include tickets for sale to the public.  A premier doesn't necessarily mean private and not available to the public even if many/most are not.

Again...that's how I'd approach it.  The side is as interested as you to have correct and reliable information. 

In all this, I can't help but wonder why you stated, "The movie was screened to Dubai Film Festival last year in December with the name of Bilal," though...

But good luck.
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Arif Jilani

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Dear BluesmanSF,

I have sent request to IMDB to correct the information and hope they will put correct information.

My initial statement was confusion, I agree. I meant premier that time also.

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I see. Keep in mind, though, it would not be one or the other. A premier is still screened. A premier is simply the first screening. Premier doesn't't indicate, using the term alone, open to public or not. A premier can be open to public. Neither term indicates whether it qualifies for IMDb or not as neither indicates, to most readers here, whether it was available to the public or not. If I were you, I'd just say it plainly as available to public or not.