What was the last film you saw and how would you rate it? Pt. 18

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Thought I'd post this here until I hear we're doing it somewhere else....

Post the name of the latest movie you've seen and your rating out of 10. 
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Sunshine Boys (t0073766) - 7/10 - loved Burns, hated Matthau.
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Red River. 7/10
John Wayne
Water Brennan
Montgomery Clift
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The Wife (2017) - 8/10, I haven't been able to decide if I like Olivia Colman or Glen Clos better.
Till The Clouds Roll By (1946) - 7/10, Well done musical,
Tuntematon Mestari (2018) - 9/10 - I have seen two Finnish films in my life and both have been great
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Thursday night: 
The Dead Don't Die (2019).A pretty big misstep for Jim Jarmusch (writing wise and maybe direction wise)... and I'm being a tad generous ... 7/10.

Firehead (1991) ... eegads! Oscar winners Martin Landau and Christopher Plummer are truly slumming it up in this terrible 90's action flick that you could see the studio so wanted to make a franchise.

And oh! Jack Lemmon had a son who can do an strained impression of his father's acting style.
1/10. Rifftrax commentary? Priceless. 
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Hallowen (1978) 9/10 This movie is great from its initial credits to its final credits, love the soundtrack of this movie.


Coherence (2013) 7/10 Although I manage to blow my head, the direction process was not as good how history and some situations seem very out of place, some parts of the film are not as good as others.


Moon (2009) 9/10 One of the best Sci fi movies I've seen in years, you can feel the influence that 2001 had here and do it well, Sci fi in movies has given us existential stories in which they leave us thinking about things about humanity that probably do not have answers and this is one of them.
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Godzilla: King of the Monsters 4/10 stars.
Review here: https://www.imdb.com/review/rw4943534/?ref_=ur_urv
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Last night:
Toy Story 4 (2019)...






It's between a 9 or a 10/10. I will likely see it again and in 3D again in the near future. It's a shame that animate movies can't get cinematography Oscar nods.
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Toy Story 4, 9/10!
Review here: https://www.imdb.com/user/ur89518905/reviews
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I don't know how much I'll give to Toy Story 4, but I'm already taking 1pt away, for a reason: because of its existence, we just lost what was one of the greatest endings to a movie series, the Toy Story saga won't end with that magical "So long, partner!" anymore...
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That was a perfect ending and it worries me a little. However I also felt Toy Story 3 was totally unnecesary, and even considered not watching it until it became praised everywhere. After watching it it became one of the best Animated films I ever saw. So I'm willing to gice this one a chance.
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MY (BIASED) OPINION OF "TOY STORY 4" 6/10 (SPOILER-FREE)

There was a time where Disney movies were telling stories, now it’s all about sending messages...

 Disney classics used to appeal to the common denominator by exalting virtues such as courage, love and the value of dreams. I refuse to believe that “Snow White” or “Pinocchio” are old-fashioned because one dreams about a prince and another about being a little boy.

No I agree there should be more movies promoting different standards or lifestyles, time is up to dust off a few gender-driven stereotypes. For that, “Frozen” was a landmark. But there’s a fine line between creating new characters and promoting their differences and deconstructing old characters that belong to a whole other storyline in order to promote a difference, that’s when I get the feeling that Disney is dangerously toying with its own legacy.

To make myself more specific, I would have no problem with a film centering on a homosexual romance and maybe that will be “Frozen II” novelty, but I would have a problem if they made a sequel to “The Fox and the Hound” in order to suggest that there was more than a friendship between Todd and Copper. Watching “Toy Story 4”, I felt betrayed by the way the whole relationship between toys and owners, that took a trilogy to be built, was demystified in one single film to shine a light on Disney’s ‘new order’.

All the previous “Toy Story” movies had a specific story. The first was exploring the psychology of toys within their relationships with their owners. Anyone could relate to that, kids who own toys and adults who used to. It also sealed the friendship between Woody and Buzz, as two of Andy’s favorites, not rivals. The second film established the issue of growing up through the Jessie situation and the impeding doom of hormone-driven rejection. Still, Andy and Woody realized that they were not articles among others or valuable items to be worshiped, having ANDY written on their feet was their value and it was perfect while it lasted.

The trilogy ended with the perfect tone (and note), Andy, now grown-up, realizes that the sentimental value of his toys depend on their current utilization as much as their past, so he gives all the toys, including Woody, to Bonnie. For the first time, there's a voluntary separation between the partners, it's an end of era but also a new start. And the toys’ “circle of life” has always been about children having toys not toys having children, the song wasn’t “I’ve got a friend in you” after all. In that fourth opus, there’s such an obsession with that notion of “having children” that it felt like they were procreating them. I’m not exaggerating, it’s used so many times it became a whole overarching theme.

But I didn’t have a problem with that because the film started with a rather touching scene. Feeling rejected by Bonnie, Woody follows her in her first day at school and helps her create a new toy, “Forky”, I just loved the way the “Spork” came alive on the sole basis that he was considered a toy, and the way Woody felt responsible in a fatherly that wasn’t totally out of place in the film’s context. Because the motive was still Bonnie: he didn’t want her to lose her new toy, Woody was still thinking of his owner, and that’s the way all toys behaved, not because that’s the way it should be, but because that’s the way it was established as soon as the series began.

This is why I just hated the way Woody admitted at the end that he did that because he had nothing else to do, as if toys were supposed to have an existence of their own, and being a lost toy was an option. Woody cared for Bonnie and Forky and it was out of character to describe this as a weakness. But the film constantly shows Woody as a weak character, both morally and physically, and for that, the studios came up with the right contrast: Bo Peep who is of course the incarnation of the Disney heroine, she’s brave, bad-ass, perfect, not one ounce of vulnerability and nothing is impossible to her.

Fair enough, she’s a great model but I doubt little girls would care more for Bo than Woody or Buzz and even Jessie who was relegated to a tertiary character while she could have been the female lead after all. The character of Gabby Gabby, the doll was a great addition though, acting like a Disney villain (especially with her scary minions-automatons) but displaying a hidden depth that broke my heart. That Gabby had the potential, but Bo was such a caricature that I could hear the marketing strategy behind her creation “let’s make a bad-ass female toy that would put Woody and Buzz to shame” and she did a great job at that.  

Naturally, she’s proud of not “having children” which in the scope of Hollywood feminism, seems to associate parenting with a form of commitment a girl should be proud to reject. Quite hypocritical from a studio whose main audiences aren’t seniors. Now, maybe I’m overanalyzing, but when you also have two toys who insist on “having children” since they’ve been “waiting for three years” and they’re males, it’s of course a nod to the right for adoption for homosexuals, which draws the obvious parallel between belonging to children and having children. Which says in subtext, women shouldn’t make raising families a priority but it’s clearly one for those who’ve been denied this right.

The message isn’t wrong but just off-topic in the context of a series where a/ toys have always been the possessed ones not the possessors, b/ when the possession was a mark of friendship and nothing else and c/ when viewers could relate to owners, even from the toys’ perspective. By over-humanizing them to make them timely relevant, something of the series’ charm was lost.



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Just respectfully going to say, I didn't really get any of those "messages".  I think the movie should be taken at face value and I think it's very cute.  :)  
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I thought the Gabby Gabby storyline was heartbreaking, Forky started as an interesting character but ended up being the story's Olaf... Bo Peep, Mrs. Perfect, annoyed the h--- out of me. I thought the film could have worked perfectly without Bo. 
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Oh yes, Forky was very Olaf!  Gabby Gabby made me cry. ;)  I liked Bo, mostly because she was finally reunited with Woody and because she was voiced by Annie Potts, who I've been seeing a lot of on Designing Women reruns, lol.  But I think they were trying to make her character a bit too "awesome!"  :)
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Indeed, and we all loved Gabby because she had that vulnerability inside, and I didn't hate Bo because she was too awesome but because her awesomeness in basically everything reflected Woody's own limitations, she lived the great life but he remained faithful to his owner because that was his reason to be... that could be questioned but the film made it sound that Bo had everything to teach Woody and nothing to learn from it. I would have accepted that from any character except one who's just popped up out of nowhere. 
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Man, what you write makes me realize why I couldn't be a good storyteller. I would analyze again and again what message could be taken from each action, instead of just going ahead with the story and leave open the interpretation. So Disney is on that way, apparently.

Yeah to your last paragraph. When stories try to mirror real-life (agendas) too much, they become empty. Once you understand the message, everything is finished. If they are more open thematically, even at the sake of being 'problematic' when examined closely, the impression goes deeper.
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Al, in French, they would say "too much 'message' kills the message"

I've always tried to distance myself from all these Internet malcontents who fuel their rants with words such as agendas, SJW, millennials etc. But Disney movies aren't helping, I gather that their intentions are noble but the road to hell can be paved with good intentions.

I meant it when I was talking about 'common denominator', that's what universality is about, something we can all relate to, something that transcend the barriers of gender, religion, ethnicity, sexuality... now, Disney and Hollywood in general are so obsessed with these themes that there's not a mainstream movie anymore that doesn't speak a statement about gender, ethnicity and sexuality... and the problem isn't necessarily in the message but the treatment that can be divisive.

And that's the whole irony of it, each movie now tries to tell you "things have changed" , fair enough, but since they're all with the same mindset now, they create the awkward feeling that creativity-wise, nothing is changing.

Another thing is that people should be allowed to have conservative views, but by continuously throwing messages that say "today is better than yesterday", you alienate a part of the population who could enjoy the stuff you made before, you can make movies that viewers would disagree with, but leave them enough rope to think and try to figure out a way to agree with you and I'm sorry but Disney movies should learn to be more consensual, not to rub viewers in the right direction, but to make the story the priority, not the message. A great story always has an Aesop, something to learn about life and relationships anyway.

I gather that what I said in my review was rather conservative but only in the sense that I wished the spirit of "Toy Story" to be conserved the way it was in the first 3 films, I enjoy a progressive film like anyone, but I wish Disney could do that with new characters, not with series whose arcs were perfectly closed.

But I think I see where they're coming from, they're probably preparing a spin-off prequel that will center on Bo Peep, so maybe "Toy Story 4" is only a vehicle for Bo. Ironic that in the film it was a skunk :)
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You're very right - nothing wrong with forward-moving messages, but let's not forget the wonderful things of the past!  Yes, I think it's very easy to make a film that is sweetly in the middle, without offending anyone.  Just keep things neutral!  :)
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All I Wish (2017) - Just another romantic comedy to watch and little else., 6/10


Insoupçonnable (2011) - I don't understand the low rating. It's nothing award worthy but it is an interesting thriller fun to watch and well acted.
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RiffTrax: Star Games 10/10!  Hilarious!  Terrible movie but great riffs!
"Bryan!"  "Kirk!"  "Star Trak!"  "Happy!"  "Yeay!"  Tony Curtis!  "What's the problem?"
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Sitting alone on the railroad tracks,

Devils of misery devouring his eyes,

A train is coming for a deadly climax...

Of a lesson to all of us smitten guys!


This is Tom’s story called the Blue Cat’s Blues,

When you throw your heart, you’re bound to lose

The game is rigged and someone loaded the dice!

You should always listen to your friends’ advice!

 

Jerry the mouse tried to warn his buddy,

He saw the poor Tom losing his head,

He felt his ground of love turning all muddy,

When she loved another one instead.

 

His name was Butch and he was stinking rich

He was Tom’s rival and she was clearly his –itch!

For every gift Tom would give,

Butch would prove to be far more combative!

 

Tom gave a flower, Butch a wreath as big as her,

Tom gave a sample, Butch a truck of perfume,

Tom brought a diamond the size of a booger,

While Butch’s one was shining all over the room!

 

The car was the last attempt to win her affection,

112% of annual interest rate!

Butch’s endless coupe drove over Tom’s ambition,

You got to wonder what he tried to compensate!


This is Tom’s story called the Blue Cat’s Blues,

When you throw your heart, you’re bound to lose!

Cause love is sure no heart matter...

When you deal with a damn gold-digger!


Tom understood that he could never get her;

In alcohol, his dreams he all buried,

Jerry could save him from the plunge into the gutter,

But then a car drove by, a sign saying “Just married”!

 

A dynamite stick could turn him black,

A rollercoaster did all the flattening;

He could go to Heaven but he was always back;

Each episode was like a new beginning.

 

This time Tom got the roughest deal!

Something for a cartoon that felt so real,

He loved a girl that didn’t love him back;

And this time maybe Tom too... might not even come back!

 

This is Tom’s story called the Blue Cat’s Blues,

When you throw your heart, you’re bound to lose,

And Jerry threw his heart to his own girlfriend

But it was the same story in the end!

 

This is Tom’s story but Jerry’s as well...

Lovesick schmucks in a nutshell,

Sitting the two of them on the railroad tracks,

Until the train comes with the deadly climax!

 

And as the whistle get louder and louder;

We know the story won’t get any better,

The iris-out delivers us from the pain

And who knows? We might see our friends again!!!


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Cobain: Montage Of Heck 7.5/10


.A very well told story of the tragic life of Kurt Cobain, some things that are shown are unnecessary and others are not very reliable. I do not like watching documentaries very much, but this about the legend of rock and one of my musical idols of the 90s, I obviously had to see it
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Toy Story 4 (2019) - 8/10 I had laughs and tears. But it is in no way a better ending than Toy Story 3 was. And I'm not sure I agree with the way Woody was handled. Somehow I can't believe he could become a forgotten toy, specially after the way we saw Bonnie loved him as much as Andy.


Stan & Ollie (2018) - 8/10, great acting, maybe it could have more touching moments.

Hotel Mumbai (2018) - 8/10, fantastic thriller, I was on the edge of my seat most of the film.
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RiffTrax: Revenge of Dr. X,  6/10.  Not as funny as the usual RiffTrax fare, but has some great moments.  The movie on it's own is just awful and has the weirdest soundtrack I've ever heard.

RiffTrax: Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny, 9/10!  Riffs are so funny!  But the movie is soooooooooooooooooo insane!!!!!!!!!!!!  To sum it up, as they did several times in the riff, "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
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Goosebumps: Haunted Halloween, 5/10.
I may be a bit generous with even that rating because I love un-gory Halloween movies, lol.  Kinda fun but not as charming as Hocus Pocus.
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You are being a tad too generous placing Goosebumps in the same arena as the classic (I haven't seen it) Hocus Pocus. So very kind of you.
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Hocus Pocus is no perfection, but it has a warm, fun quality (probably due to the fact it was made in the 90's) although it is kinda silly.

Now, the Ice Cream Bunny is just plain insane.  

Santa And The Ice Cream Bunny GIF
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The past 3 or 4 days.
Anima(2019) 7/10;
She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, season 2... 8/10;
Documentary Now!, season 3... 9/10.

Today:
Toy Story 4: (rewatch) 10/10.

La Frecuencia Kirlian, a generous 6/10.
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Don't Torture a Duckling (1972) - 8/10. This is the answer to the cynicism, ignorance and bigotry that plagued many Italian horror/crime movies. Interesting that it comes from the "Master of Sleaze", Lucio Fulci. Apparently, he went for base exploitation in most of his later works simply because it paid more, but this movie proves he could do better.
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Annabelle Comes Home 5/10

a pleasant surprise, I expected to find another ridiculous movie from Warren's universe, although it is impossible not to notice the terrible mistakes of the film and the script, on the other hand, it creates a more frightening atmosphere than his previous films, but as I said before, It has more errors than success.
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WONDER WHEEL - 6/10

Damn, this got to be Woody Allen at his most depressing and infuriating, nothing ever happens in this film that would make you believe that life is worth living, it's all about deception, disillusion and the bottle... any sparkle of joy is likely to ignite a fire of anger later (here's a nod to that stupid pyromaniac kid).

Kate Winslet just got on my nerves, it's one thing to play an unhappy woman, but how about giving us something to tie our empathy to... the husband is rude but seems rather responsible (and Belushi gives a great performance), she seems incapable to raise her son, mourning her dreams to be a movie star and acting as if destiny had a debt with her... something's obviously eating her but the film inserts that in a narrative that includes killers and forces her to act in an irreversible and unforgivable way, it's too ugly to even try to understand her... what an unpleasant experience! 

Actually, the only uplifting thing about it is the title but I "wonder" if Allen was already affected by the scandals when he made this, because there's something unusually bitter in his writing, as if he didn't care anymore... the fact that being a movie fan turns Kate's character into a poor man's "Baby Jane" proves that the days of the "Purple Rose of Cairo" are over, cinema isn't escapism anymore, it's like a road to existential lunacy.. I hope Woody's career will end on a more cheerful note, if  a film titled "Wonder Wheel" could be so depressing, I guess I can expect fireworks from "A Rainy Day in New York".
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Earlier this afternoon... Spiderman: Far from Home (2019): 8/10;
Tonight... a rewatch of Zero Dark Thirty (2012), 10/10.
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Stranger Things 3, 8/10.  Binge watched and stayed up until 1 in the morning, but worth it.  Lots of fun and plenty of excitement, and some emotion.  Never realized how much I cared about these characters until now; now I'm rewatching the first 2 seasons.  Liked how this season took place more at the neat 80's mall instead of them just hanging around in the woods all the time.  :)
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After last year unintentionally funny, (one of the) worst movie I've seen in 2018 ... Hereditary (2018), my expectations for Midsommar (2019) were lower than [cheeky metaphor not found please refresh your browser later].

The sophomore effort from Ari Aster? Damn! I will be seeing this freakishly disturbing yet intentionally funny horror movie one more time at the theater. 9/10.
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Woman at War, 9/10
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Animal Farm (1954) 10/10
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Saturday: The Cat Rescuers (2018) [documentary], 7/10.
Camp Camp (TV Series 2016– ), 10/10.