Thought I'd post this here until I hear we're doing it somewhere else....
Post the name of the latest movie you've seen and your rating out of 10.
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Sunshine Boys (t0073766) - 7/10 - loved Burns, hated Matthau.
Post the name of the latest movie you've seen and your rating out of 10.
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Sunshine Boys (t0073766) - 7/10 - loved Burns, hated Matthau.
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The Terminator, 1984. 5/10 stars. I figured I should finally see it. Plot is very interesting, but the action was probably more exciting in the 80's. Also, there's that stop motion at the end... ouch. But I do plan to see the second one, which I've heard is amazing.
if you cared about the action, I think it's no wonder you didn't like the film, it's not much about the action, but about a few simple things (well, not so simple)
There are shootouts, there are car chases, but they felt different because this time, the enemy doesn't try to get at the heroes but to kill them, they're means as well as ends. The Terminator is an unstoppable death warrant, guided by fatality. Notice the scene when, for once, Sarah gets the illusion of being finally protected, in a commissariat. The Terminator's "I'll be back", especially when heard for the first time, sums up everything, no matter how far away you try to push him, he'll get back to you.
And this, resonates as the voice of fatality, the omen of an inevitable confrontation, something that neither Biehn nor Sarah can't avoid, the future has come to haunt them, and if Sarah is really the mother of a future fighter, even she will have to express that 'fighting' part of herself. Whether you look at the half-empty or half-full glass, you'll see "Terminator" as a predestination or fatality movie. And I guess this is why the appellation neo-noir isn't gratuitous. Noir is about people who try to escape from a painful certainty but can only triumph over it by confronting it, at the cost of something precious such as their innocence, their optimism, their faith on life or humanity. Sarah starts as a "damsel in distress" but look at her in the end.
And talk about a great confrontation, the contrast between the robotic killer and the harmless target. And this is where the casting pays off; Arnold Schwarzenegger was criticized for the limitations of his acting range, especially at a time where his accent was stronger, but here, he's given a role that only an actor like him could have portrayed perfectly: a cold and implacable killing machine. when you get the right casting, you get half of the film right.
I love T2 but in comparison, it's more "standard action picture" than the first
There are shootouts, there are car chases, but they felt different because this time, the enemy doesn't try to get at the heroes but to kill them, they're means as well as ends. The Terminator is an unstoppable death warrant, guided by fatality. Notice the scene when, for once, Sarah gets the illusion of being finally protected, in a commissariat. The Terminator's "I'll be back", especially when heard for the first time, sums up everything, no matter how far away you try to push him, he'll get back to you.
And this, resonates as the voice of fatality, the omen of an inevitable confrontation, something that neither Biehn nor Sarah can't avoid, the future has come to haunt them, and if Sarah is really the mother of a future fighter, even she will have to express that 'fighting' part of herself. Whether you look at the half-empty or half-full glass, you'll see "Terminator" as a predestination or fatality movie. And I guess this is why the appellation neo-noir isn't gratuitous. Noir is about people who try to escape from a painful certainty but can only triumph over it by confronting it, at the cost of something precious such as their innocence, their optimism, their faith on life or humanity. Sarah starts as a "damsel in distress" but look at her in the end.
And talk about a great confrontation, the contrast between the robotic killer and the harmless target. And this is where the casting pays off; Arnold Schwarzenegger was criticized for the limitations of his acting range, especially at a time where his accent was stronger, but here, he's given a role that only an actor like him could have portrayed perfectly: a cold and implacable killing machine. when you get the right casting, you get half of the film right.
I love T2 but in comparison, it's more "standard action picture" than the first
Yeah I agree... I think that at first it should've been a mystery of who was the good guy and who was the bad guy. Like, we wouldn't know if Kyle was there to kill Sarah and Terminator was there to save her, etc. :)
Well, the second film didn't do that either :)
I see your point but I think one of the most memorable things about the film was about the killer shooting every woman named Sarah Connor, it's so random yet creepy, to have this properly set-up, we would have needed to see the killer or at least hear the 'Sarah Connor'. Anyway, I don't think Cameron intended it to be a mystery.
I see your point but I think one of the most memorable things about the film was about the killer shooting every woman named Sarah Connor, it's so random yet creepy, to have this properly set-up, we would have needed to see the killer or at least hear the 'Sarah Connor'. Anyway, I don't think Cameron intended it to be a mystery.
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Yeah, that was the flaw in the idea. :) Even if it never showed the killer, he would still have an accent when he said "Sarah Connor"... that would give it away, lol.
Well said, Elmo. The foggy night scenes also add to the noir feeling. And between us forced dubbing connoisseurs, I think The Terminator is one of the very rare movies that improves with dubbing. Arnold's accent makes the character a little goofy, but with a straightforward voice you take everything more seriously.
I think that at first it should've been a mystery of who was the good guy and who was the bad guy.I did read though that James Cameron wanted Arnie's intentions to be a secret in Terminator 2, however the trailer spoiled the twist.
Up until I saw the movie, I always assumed Arnold said "I'll Be Back" at the very end; like, as a doorway to the sequel. I guess I didn't know much, lol.
I think The Terminator is one of the very rare movies that improves with dubbing. Arnold's accent makes the character a little goofy, but with a straightforward voice you take everything more seriously.
Manga Zuki, I agree with you, lol.
It's true, my view of the film was rather superficial the first time (and I kept looking for points of comparison with the sequel that I saw first, so it affected my experience) but the second time I saw it, something really clicked, positively. Yes, there are a few things here and there you can see coming but I guess it was still fresh material in the 80s and the triangle formed by Bienh, Hamilton and Arnie create a perfect dynamic that works all throughout the film, not just for the thrills, there's a real chemistry between Kyle and Sarah.
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'Coach' (1989-1997), https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096560/ 8/10/ So funny and well acted. Casting is perfect. It's a shame they didn't go through with the revival a few years ago.
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I saw an episode of that taped live once. :)
And One Day at a Time just came on and this episode features...Shelly Fabares!
* cue the Twilight Zone music *
And One Day at a Time just came on and this episode features...Shelly Fabares!
* cue the Twilight Zone music *
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You saw it live? Cool! :0 :)
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