What category do these images belong to

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These, and several others, are categorized as still images and they obviously are not.  But I'm not sure what category they belong to. They aren't dvd covers, or at least I don't think they are. They look like some type of art work done by the studio, but I honestly am too ignorant of what's what to know. Help plz.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1466074/mediaviewer/rm2718589440
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1466074/mediaviewer/rm2064278016
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1466074/mediaviewer/rm2114609664
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All 3 look like Posters to me.
Didn't know tv episodes got posters.
Publicity is my 2nd choice.
Wow, followed the arrows on one of them - looks like a lot of episodes have their own poster!
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I didn't either till tonite. I remember watching Columbo as a kid with my Mom who loved it, but beyond a few tv guide covers don't remember ever paying attn to stuff like that for any show.

It's also possible Peter Falk might have had something to do with them as well. He was a prolific artist. I remember going on a cruise many years ago where they had a self-portrait of him displayed (figured unlike a towel they'd care if I took it). He was a great actor.  If you've never seen Murder by Death it is worth a laugh with great actors.
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Mike, I'd need further time to look, but they are probably stand alone TV Movie Title Posters. See my reply below. I Looked closer. They indeed are stand alones.
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This is BAD
Some Idiot has grouped a bunch of stand alone TV Movies (ala Perry Mason) and made them into a season! Argh!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1466074/episodes?ref_=tt_eps_yr_mr


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Not sure I'll agree with the season #s, but in this case I do think they belong on the Columbo series and not as stand-alone movies.  I'll have to read imdb's guide on series, but as I recall these were intended to be a set of work and went it originally aired there were gaps because it was part of a mystery nite with some other titles.

And just one more thing,; if these shouldn't, then neither should "McMillan" which was season 6 of McMillan & Wife absent Susan St James. I just looked and their grouped and it aired under a different name. At least all these were called Columbo.

If this is the only guidance, I feel lost.
https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/episode-guidelines/GDF7HR6CCCBKU3CP?ref_=helpms_he...#

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Mike
My assessment is fact. I watched Columbo when it was new. It ended its run in 1978.
Everything after was not part of the series. They were TV Movie events. They are all 2 Hours or 1hr 38min without commercials.
Columbo was a rare show that ran 90 minutes.
See this.




See the run time? Made for 90 minutes w/commercials



These are the TV Movie run times!!!!!

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My five cents on that: internationally "Columbo" is viewed as a TV-series, more in vein with "Poirot" then Perry Mason TV movies. It's interesting, since usually a format of several TV movies about one character forming a series is also more often found in UK with Sharpe and Hornblower as prime examples. 

I remember Columbo being separate TV movies on IMDb and I believe this example merits an exception for merger into series: it cluttered Peter Falk's filmography to a point of hardship and it was also really difficult to group all episodes in their air order. All of the TV movies also clearly have a title "Columbo" on them and there were formally announced seasons of the show, with an exception of original Prescription: Murder (1968), which rightfully remained as a separate title.  
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Here's an ad for when it came back in 1989 and it indicates there would be multiple shows which would be indicative of a series or at least a mini-series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwC0QBNsR2E
Did Perry Mason, for example, have defined episodes for when it aired its movies?

This is really an odd ball although it impacts more than Columbo because all the shows in the mystery block were similarly done.  I think the problem is terms as even those in the first 7 seasons were nominated for tv movie/mini-series category. Oh and, ABC specified for those in 89-93 to be a series

How is Columbo different from say Farscape's or V's tv movies. They were for a particular couple of episodes whereas Columbo was for a more continued, consistent run. But I still don't know how Mason for example intended it's post series run, but mason's movies were twice the length of the original series which is not the case with Columbo as some of its early shows were 90 minutes.

Here's a story for when it's bringing back the Columbo "series".
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-05-24-ca-3267-story.html
So if you follow your thing above, then BL Stryker and Gideon Oliver should be tv movies.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096538
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096594

Just one more thing Ed, if you're going to start believing Amazon, what will the world come to. Next thing you know you'll say birth names should be removed :)

The 5 post-94 ep's might, and probably, fall into set them free category, but the other 64 belong as a group.

Incidentally, Kojak shows it's 5 shows as tv movies for the same period.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096628
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0162425
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185315
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0194082
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099948
So it's a mixed bag. If break up Columbo, then Stryker and Gideon would need to be too as well as a couple others.
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Please do not doubt me. I do not says about US Television things unless I'm 100% sure about it.
Don't forget I'm 64. I can recall watching shows before re-runs existed. LOL (1960) I was 5!
Unless it was Sesame St. or Mr Rogers. I was too old to watch those!
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What did I say doubting you? I only said that I thought they should stay together and reading the little guidance there is I don't see anything dispositive.

As I put above I too watched them when they originally aired (up until 86). At least looking how it aired (reading wiki) it was a pretty solid block of work until about 94 which is then when it transitioned somewhat.
If you read up on Falk and Columbo, you'll see that he didn't want a weekly show which is why in part it aired about once a month as part of NBC (I watched McCloud with my Dad as he was a Dennis Weaver fan) and then ABC picked it up.

Unfortunately my brain only holds so much, so some stuff does leak. As for the length, McMillan and Wife also had 90 and 120 minute ep's (watched that too with my parents as my Dad liked the Rock and my Mom like Susan- you know the time when families watched tv together).

So I'm not arguing, and all this started trying to figure out where some images fell. lol

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Ed,

I can recall watching shows before re-runs existed. LOL (1960)

Episodic Drama series and Sitcoms typically had 39 episodes per season in 1960. The networks NBC, CBS and ABC ran re-runs of these series during the 13 weeks of summer.
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Was in summer camp! NO TV. I was deprived! Guess that's why I don't recall any until 1964
Thanks for the correction
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Trivia:
Was driving a taxi cab and almost hit Peter in the North End with my Checker Marathon!
I slammed on the brakes and stopped just in time to here him shout out the Dustin Hoffman line, "I'm walkin here", with an "F" word added for good measure!


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Also this mentions the official end of the series and the beginning of the stand alone movies.
IE: Post Series



After the series ended, ABC kept Columbo in production and Falk starred in an additional fourteen films before the network discontinued the series in 2003.
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can't find that, is it from wiki?
But also note its inconsistent wording:  "After the series ended, ABC kept Columbo in production and Falk starred in an additional 14 films before the network discontinued the series in 2003."
Terms mean a lot, and I guess time travel as well. So the series ended and then was discontinued again in 2003.  They also use the term "film" vs tv movie.
I looked for what imdb had for guidance and found only what I posted above.
As I said, I think until about 94 it was pretty consistent and this would include part of the time you're talking about.  I might agree on the post 94 because then there were few and sporadic, but is there more imdb guidance that I'm not seeing?

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If you look at the whole thing, this is a weird thing actually. Every Episode is in reality a TV Movie. I Agree with the episode format up until the re-boot of 89-91. After that they switched to two hours. same as the Perry Mason Series. Those are all listed separately. The Columbo's should be too.
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If you look at earlier seasons of Columbo you'll see that there were 16 two-hour ep's mixed in.  I remember this fairly well, but for that show block they had varied the length from 90 to 120 minutes although I don't recall the specifics (just recall it impacted taking our dog outside and there weren't dvrs). That's why McMillan&Wife had 2 hr eps as well (don't recall any 2hr McCloud's though).
All Col's from 1989 to the end were 2 hours. But with 16 of the "original" ep's being 2 hrs kinda of makes it hard to use length alone as it would be misleading.
(In Mason's case I think all its ep's were 1 hour then there were all 2 hour movies, but have to say I wasn't a perry fan.)
Funny how life's data never securely fits into a database. But this does take me back. Remember when popcorn was popped on the stove-top vs the microwave, then we got the hot air thing. Memories.
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From that mystery page:
"Although the Mystery Movie series was cancelled at the end of the 1976–1977 season, NBC kept Columbo in production and a seventh season consisting of five films premiered on November 21, 1977. After the fifth film aired in May 1978, NBC cancelled Columbo as well."

Again they say films, but they were a mix of 90&120 minutes shows that I think safely can be considered part of the original series seasons.

I'm going to start a poll on whatever that website is to make sure all future tv shows fit imdb's database perfectly. lol
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