Vanishing soundtrack items

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I have been updating soundtracks by adding QV links for
particular performers/ songwriters.


 

I found one soundtrack entry that needed to be done for Richard Rodgers (of Rodgers and Hammerstein). This was at

"The Milton Berle Show" (1958) {(1958-12-17)}

The soundtrack list contained two songs with a total of four songwriters and two performers, all of whom needed QV links. These were the original entries: 

“Johnny One Note”

Written by Rogers and Hart (1937)

Performed by Eydie Gormé

 

"My Buddy"

Written by Walter Donaldson & Gus Kahn (1922)

Performed by Eydie Gormé

 

I edited the entries as follows:

“Johnny One Note"

Written by 'Richard Rodgers (I)' (qv) (as Rogers) and 'Lorenz Hart' (qv) (as Hart) (1937)

Performed by 'Eydie Gormé' (qv)

 

"My Buddy"

Written by 'Walter Donaldson (I)' (qv) & 'Gus Kahn' (qv) (1922)

Performed by 'Eydie Gormé' (qv)

 

All QV links were accepted by IMDB. I submitted the data and received a confirmation with the reference”

170702-123110-234000

As I am in a different time zone and I know that Soundtrack entries are often updated quickly, I checked 10 hours later to see whether my submission had been accepted, by looking at

"The Milton Berle Show" (1958) {(1958-12-17)}

To my surprise, there were no Soundtrack entries at all. They had vanished. It was as if I had deleted, rather just editing, them.

I went back to the reference and checked the data that I submitted. It was still there. So I re-submitted it and received a confirmation with the reference:

170702-223024-290000

I waited a day and re-checked again. The Soundtrack entries were missing. A more recent check shows them still missing.

Looking at both submission references, my submissions are still there, but both references now include the text below, whilst showing the Soundtrack items as I submitted them:

The IMDb data for this section has changed since you started this update, sorry. It will need to be re-checked in order to avoid accidental damage to the wrong items.

 

Can anyone explain this to me?

Have I done something wrong?

 

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As of this posting, it looks like the data was approved and posted. The link to the page is below.

"The Milton Berle Show" (1958) {(1958-12-17)}
Soundtracks Page

It's possible that the time you viewed the page, the data was still being processed.

I hope this helps. Please write back if you have any more questions.
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Thanks for your reply. 

If the data was being processed, I can understand the changes not appearing.  But I have not come across any instances where the actual entries disappear whilst being processed.

I have since found two another anomalies:

First anomaly:

 I updated the soundtracks for ‘Patty (1976)’. Submission reference as below

170703-125919-700000

I do a search for ‘Patty (1976)’ as a title to confirm my data has been updated, but it does not show up in my search. There is ‘Patty Candela (1976)’, 'Patty (1962)’ and ‘Patty Hearst (1988)’ amongst others, none of which are the title I am looking for.

The submission reference now has the text:

The IMDb data for this section has changed since you started this update, sorry. It will need to be re-checked in order to avoid accidental damage to the wrong items.

However, if I do a search for ‘Al Goodman (III)’, as he was a songwriter to whom added a QV, he shows up as having the four credits for the film, ‘Patty (1976)’ that I added to his record. I can click on the title on his page and I am now taken to the film’s page.

Question: Why does ‘Patty (1976)’ not show up in a general title search?

Second anomaly:

I have added QVs to soundtrack items for episodes of ‘Naeildo kantabille" (2014)’.  I also added QVs to two soundtrack items attached to the overall title.

Reference: 170629-220049-682000

When I go to check on them, there are no longer any soundtrack items for the title. The updates I submitted have also disappeared from the submission, and it just says ‘No existing data’. 

This is like the example from my first post, except that the data has disappeared from the submission as well.

Question: What has happened here? Is it the same as the situation from the first post (items vanishing whilst being processed)? Or has someone else deleted the soundtrack items from the title?

 

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Hi Graham,

Are you referring to the main title search on the site? It does, see screenshot:



The same for the soundtracks page on that episode, see below:
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This is what I get when I search. A search for 'Patty' or 'Patty (1976)' yields the same results.

The second image is what appears when I ask for 'More title matches'.



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Regarding  ‘Naeildo kantabille (2014)’.

It's not the episodes' soundtracks that are a problem, it is the overall title page's soundtracks.

I edited two items here and they have disappeared - from the page itself and from my data submission.




 
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Patty (1976) is listed as an adult title, so it won't come up in the search until you enable adult results (in the sidebar under Additional Search Options).
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Thanks. I thought that might be a possibility, but was thrown by the fact that I could get search results for its soundtracks and also come at it via a songwriter.
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Third Anomaly:
Doing a search for Howie Mandel in 'Soundtracks' brings up the tracks in the first image.

When I go to the individual pages, three of these episodes (11, 12 and 14) do not have any soundtrack items. 


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Hi Graham -

I looked at the filmography for "Howie Mandel" here and see that he currently only has two listed soundtrack credits for "Bobby's World" episodes (for "Jets, Choo-Choos & Cars" and "Uncle Ted's Excellent Adventure").  It's possible that the sound track credits you captured above were pending removal, which would explain why they were not displaying on the episode pages.

If you are still getting the same Soundtrack results, please confirm the exact steps you are taking to get those results so our staff can take a look.
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Thanks, Michelle.

It's interesting that the only two credits r "Bobby's World" that Howie Mandel has are the two where I added the QV links. 

Why are they still there, when the others have disappeared?
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Hi Graham,

I have filed a ticket with our data editors to investigate the missing soundtrack items.

Thanks
Meredith
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I am still finding that some items ‘disappear’ into the ether when I update Soundtrack items.

 

"Naeildo kantabille" (2014) (previously mentioned)

Ref No.: 170629-220049-682000

I edited two Soundtrack items. Neither appears back on the original page, and both have disappeared from the Update.

 

"Haven" (2010)

Ref No.: 170705-151941-954000

I edited one Soundtrack item. It does not appear on the original page, and has disappeared from the Update.

 

"Good Morning Britain" (2014) {(2016-11-18)}

Ref No.: 170705-065355-559000

I edited one Soundtrack item. It does not appear on the original page, but is still in the Update.

 

"Happy Birthday to You"
(uncredited)
Written by 'Mildred J. Hill' (qv) and 'Patty S. Hill' (qv)
Performed by 'Marilyn Monroe' (qv)

 

"Brothers & Sisters" (2006) {Prior Commitments (#2.16)}

Ref No.: 170707-013429-090000

I edited three Soundtrack items. Two show up as changed, the third (the first on the list) has disappeared. It is still in the Update.


"Can't Find My Way Home"
Written by 'Steve Winwood' (uncredited)
Performed by 'Ellen McIlwaine' (qv)

 

King-Size Canary (1947)

Ref No.: 170707-013429-090000

 

There were two soundtrack items for this film, but they were the same. I marked one for deletion and edited the other to contain a QV link for the songwriter. Both items have disappeared from the film, and the Update only contains the following.

"Listen to the
Mockingbird” (uncredited)
Music by 'Richard Milburn (I)' (qv)

  

With these last three, I expect that I could re-submit the data to see if they would update this time. I thought I would draw your attention to the problem before I did this.

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Hi Graham,

We have uncovered the source of this issue, - for a soundtrack to display on IMDb.com it must fulfill two criteria.

(a) The first character of the soundtrack item must be a double quotation mark.
(b) There needs to be at least another double quotation mark throughout the whole text of the entry field.

It appears that in correcting these items, the second double quotation mark has been replaced with a single quotation mark and as such the item is not able to display on the site. If you resubmit your updates, but ensure that the song title is wrapped in double quotation marks rather than single, this should correct the issue.

Thanks
Meredith
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Thanks, Meredith

I have gone through and addressed that issue. Not sure how it arose, particularly as you can see in my screen captures that it is not in them.

Thanks for your help.


Graham