Uploaded image shrinkage

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Hi,

What's happening with these jpg images? I've uploaded images for some older films. The original images are usually fairly large, good screen quality images. After the upload, for me, the image in the database looks to be shrunken with a white, blank background. This feels to be a fairly new occurrence.

Here are a couple of examples:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0185568/mediaviewer/rm1521654017
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035896/mediaviewer/rm1546360833
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034746/mediaviewer/rm2083231745

Is it something e.g., with the original image compression or is the uploading procedure doing something that causes the shrinkage? I've tried to upload images that should not hold copyrights and are (originally) clearly for marketing purposes.
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Very nice photos.

When I right-click and open each in its own tab (Chrome browser on Windows 10), the image has been stored with the enormous white border seen in the MIDb viewer.

When I copy that (new tab) image, and paste it into a photo editor, the outer boundary (For Me and My Gal) is 760x1000, but without the boundary, the real image has half the lengths.

It's almost as if you (or someone) tried to double the size of the image, but accidentally selected the photo editor's function to double the canvas size instead, which would lead to this result. You mentioned "original compression"; I wonder if altering the image and/or canvas size is part of the that step, which you might have unintentionally activated.

The last time I uploaded a photo was a couple of days ago, and nothing like this happened during the process.
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Hi and thank you. :)

I tested opening and saving the image like you did and curiously the image remains small with a transparent background, similar to a transparent layer in a png image.

To my knowledge jpg compression would not cause this.

I still wonder if it is due to the uploading procedure of the site. Comparing to the original images uploading seems to drop the dimensions of the picture and also the resolution drops from 300 dpi to 96 dpi.

The bit depth rises from the original 8 to 24 in the uploaded image. I've not seen this shrinkage happen with colour images so this might be a problem occurring when uploading grayscale images.
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Image 1
width: 363px;
height: 285px;
What was the original image size you uploaded?
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0185568/mediaviewer/rm1521654017


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Hi,

The original image size was 2647 x 2079 pixels with 300 dpi resolution.
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Found it too

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Normally this would be the size below on this page. But embedded in the photos image data is an auto reduction
height: auto;
max-width: 100%;
max-width: none\9;

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Here it is after an increase manually
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To the staff (technical team):
It seems to be a glitch. 
The media viewer for this title links to those images not directly but with a suffix which creates the white borders: "SY1000_CR0,0,759,1000"

As I think, here is one of direct links:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYzdlOWNlODgtYzE2OS00NDAwLWJiYjEtOTRhYzUxZDU0OWMwXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDI2NDg0NQ@@.jpg

If this is a method of creating thumbnails for very big images, would be great to have it explained in official guidelines. Thanks
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This image is my upload. It was very small but is the same size, on the page for the title as your "Large" image. It stayed the same size through the upload to IMDB. So you B&W theory is out. All these images were 1/3 the size of your upload
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNjllZTEwNzQtMGNlYi00ZDBjLTg5ZWUtODMyYzAyMzg4MjA4XkEyXkFqcGde...
Highway Patrol 1955
Highway Patrol 1955

Broderick Crawford in Highway Patrol 1955
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Hmm,

Well it isn't a bit depth, or grayscale, issue as it seems to appear here too: https://www.imdb.com/imdbpicks/latest-posters/rg1624939264/mediaviewer/rm2964494593

I don't think file size has an effect, but I agree that the image physical size may be a common factor.
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Hi Sasu and all -

I brought this issue up with our image team who confirmed that there is a systematic error causing this image display (with the white border), they are currently working on a fix and as soon as I have an update I will let you know here.
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Excellent, and good to hear. :)

Thank you Michelle. Let us know if any re-uploading is required.
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Will do!
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Hi, Sasu Törmälä. While this is IMDb's problem, I do believe the tools on Amazon's end may be the culprit.
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Hi again,

No updates, but it would seem that this is fixed now(?)
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Hi Sasu -

Yes, I just reviewed the ticket and the issue should now be fully resolved.
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