Updates to List Pages

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Today (Dec 6) we are announcing an update to the List pages on the IMDb desktop experience. This update is part of the broader site changes announced recently (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for lists. We have merged “compact view” and list editing into a single Edit experience. In that one view, you can now modify your text and add, copy, delete and move items. We have also pulled List actions (edit, export, settings) together into a 1-click menu (the 3 vertical dots on the top right of the page). You will now also find two new options in the Refine menu: ‘In Theaters’ and ‘Keywords.’  Tech constraints on the new system prohibit us from continuing to support drag-and-drop from the Edit view; we appreciate your understanding. For more information about Lists, see the IMDb Help Center.




Updated Jan 12:
  • We've improved list display on Your Activity page (aka yourProfile page) so that long list display names wrap to multiple lines.
  • We improved the list creation form so that it now accepts &and + (for list name and description)
  • We’ve improved list item validation. You can no longer addinvalid items-- for example, if you accidentally mistype an image ID you'll getan error message so you can correct it. Also if an image you included is no longer available, you can delete it so your list item count is accurate.
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By the way, the yellow bar on the right top side "Rated X of Y titles" is gone too now or was it just moved somewhere else?
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It appears to be gone; I couldn't find it elsewhere as well. Too bad; I loved looking at other people's lists and comparing how many movies I have watched from that list.
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I used it to make sure I'd recorded my ratings each week (titles added to a personal list). So now I have to scan the list myself, and without a truly compact view, it's also harder to spot which title I forgot to rate. 
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You use the "Refine" option on every list to display only the titles you have not rated.  It is in the "You and This List" menu:

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Also for compact view, there's a similar view available on advanced title search at http://www.imdb.com/search/title and you can filter results there by any (and multiple) lists:



ATS results can also be bookmarked.  For example, here's a public list of mine, sorted by the number of user votes -> http://www.imdb.com/search/title?count=250&lists=ls066993558&sort=num_votes,desc&view=si...
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Thanks for taking the time to post this reply. Perhaps it does not really matter for you, but I would like to give my personal feedback as regards to the recent changes, more specifically to the removal of compact view from List Pages. You described above a different way to have access to the compact view, but this added unnecessary complexity for a feature that has been used for years. Back on my school days I do remember a basic rule on Computer Interface that is "Avoid as much as possible any impact to the user experience" and you disrespected that. If you were just adding new features, that would be great, but what you are doing here is removing or changing the way users have access to features they like on the website. As most users I"ll be missing A LOT the compact view feature as it was used to be.
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@Col:
Thanks for pointing out the Refine option, that'll do the trick.

As for the Advanced Search: I use it a lot, but it is cumbersome:
  • too much to scroll past
  • wish you'd use drop-down lists for those boxes of options and checkboxed options, and 
  • maybe use 2 columns to list the various possible criteria.
The Compact output from ATS would be better if single-spaced. BTW, the link to add to Watchlist is excellent.

Will we ever get some options to control And vs Or? For instance, I could easily check 3 of my lists for missing ratings if I had an Or option when selecting my Include lists. (I know, this would just lead to more requests for such things.) Even if we had to alter the search URL by hand to insert the Or symbol (or a Not symbol), that would be superb. 
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Col - I just tried looking at someone else's list. Without Compact mode, it is a LOT of work to scroll through the entries. What used to be 1 line per title is now 12 lines. And the only way for me to use ATS's compact mode is to copy their list into a list of my own, no? I doubt I'll do that very often. Especially since I can't scan the list quickly enough to see if it interests me. (Catch-22: absence of compact view prevents me from knowing if I want to exert the effort to convert it to compact view.)
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bderoes,

I also miss the compact view available on the list page.

If you know the list ID for a title list, replace the list ID in this search to see this title list in the compact view:
Highest Rated Titles In Your "All 151 Oscar-Qualifying Documentaries for 2013" List
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls052183003&sort=user_rating,desc&view=simple

If you know the list ID for a people list, replace the list ID in this search to see this people list in the compact view:
Most Popular People In List "ls053280505"
http://www.imdb.com/search/name?lists=ls053280505&view=simple

I fully agree this is less convenient than having the compact view available on the list page.
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Dan Dassow,

Your suggestion is superb!

I find that it also works to have the list= last, as in
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?count=250&view=simple&lists=ls052183003

Now if someone knew enough javascript to take this
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?count=250&view=simple&lists=

and tack on the list id when we're sitting at 
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls052183003/

to create the 1st url, THEN we'd have something worth bookmarking.
I'm inspired by the one-liner
javascript:location.href='http://web.archive.org/save/'+location.href
which is a 1-line script you can bookmark to submit a page you're on to the Wayback Machine for archiving.
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Thanks, bderoes! Clever and very useful.
I'm inspired by the one-liner
javascript:location.href='http://web.archive.org/save/'+location.href
which is a 1-line script you can bookmark to submit a page you're on to the Wayback Machine for archiving.
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Interesting.
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Dan Dassow

Just to be clear, I found that javascript at the Wayback site (actually, they referred us to another site which had that cataloged.) 

Maybe someone who follows this discussion will know how to use javascript to extract the list id from http://www.imdb.com/list/ls052183003/
so the new script would look something like
javascript:location.href='http://www.imdb.com/search/title?count=250&view=simple&lists='+listIDextraction
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I am not a huge fan of this change-up. You took away the character category for building a list. Why? I've enjoyed seeing how many people viewed my lists, but thats been taken away. Why? And reordering my lists has become much more complicated by taking away the ability to drag and drop. Why? Please give an explanation to why you did all this? I've been making lists for about 4 years and have over 800 lists on my page. I consider this a hobby, or a way to pass time. I'd suggest going back to the old way, or add those to make this new update better. 
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This is horrendous.

The drag and drop function was incredibly important to how I use the lists because I actually like to be able to reorder them. Even if the numbers function worked properly (which in my experience, it never does - it only seems to register that you've typed a number in maybe 1/10 of the time), you'd still have to keep track of how many items you'd placed higher up or moved lower down and add/subtract accordingly in your head when moving more than one item at once.

Oh, and as well as the numbers never registering for me, the entire system seems bugged for me now because I'm unable to add new items to lists. I can type words into the search bar and it opens a search box with no results.
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Oh, and as well as the numbers never registering for me, the entire system seems bugged for me now because I'm unable to add new items to lists. I can type words into the search bar and it opens a search box with no results.
This sounds like there might be a browser plug-in interfering with the page display (for example, a rogue ad blocker).  Please can you try the steps on https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/general-information/why-is-imdb-displaying-differently-on-my-brow... and let us know.
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Hi, I've realised that the problem is that I was searching for an episode of a TV show rather than a movie or TV series. It now appears to be impossible to add individual episodes of a show to a list because they don't seem to appear in searches. Is this correct or is it just a problem at my end?
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You can still add them. For now, you have to look them up first in a standard search, and paste the title id (ex: tt0019726, visible in url of a title page) in the Add Title search box. You might have to hit enter to get it search for the title.

Hopefully they'll fix the Add Title to find TV episodes and Short films.
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Hi Chris Dynamo,

FYI: Col is not short for Colonel, but for Colin. I made the same mistake a few years ago when IMDb was founded.

bderoes
Hopefully they'll fix the Add Title to find TV episodes and Short films.
I fully agree.
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Attn: Dan Dassow and ACT_1. True. Well, Chris Dynamo is probably being facetious, I'm afraid.
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My humor detection algorithm appears to be malfunctioning. ;-)
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I was in the middle of creating a long list when this change happened overnight.  Adding some titles is easier but with others is much harder.  If you go to add a film and start typing it gives you several choices, but unlike the previous search method it shows you a limited number, and I can't find a way of making the choice wider.  This particularly hinders when adding films with short titles.  First problem was with the film Z (1969), which didn't come up in the options offered.  Also Daniel (1983) didn't appear.  The 1938 version of Holiday didn't show up, but did when I typed in the alternate title of Unconventional Linda (though it showed as Holiday!) 
I'm pretty good with alternate titles but the way this works has stumped me on a few.
Also you don't see the films being added unless you go back into the list again.  So if you've picked the wrong film and got another with the same title it is much more laborious than before in removing and replacing it.
For foreign films you need to guess the title that will come up, e.g. French or an English translation.  I typed in Gueule d'Amour and despite being a unique title it didn't come up.  

Luckily you've not changed the version on my iPhone (yet, and please don't!) where the search feature is much better.
Frankly not the sort of "improvement" I'd like to see IMDb doing.
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If you can't find the film you want, add the film to your watchlist and then you use the move to option to move it to the list you want it in.  To see the films added in you have to go right to the end of the list to see it added in. 
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If you're on the title page, instead of adding to Watchlist, just hold over that button until your lists show, and add it directly to your List.

Another way to see it is added to your list is to Sort your list in Reverse list order, whether you're in Edit mode or regular view mode.
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My points about the extremely important necessity of an accurate IMDb rating order, which is now gone from the personal lists:
1. Most people don't know that the results are not accurate and will rely on them, oblivious to the fact that all the movies with the same rating number will appear in POPULARITY order. You should at least put a warning like "the IMDb rating results are not completely accurate anymore"
2. When I search for movies with the same rating number in IMDb rating order (for example, the best movies with 6.9), I will simply get a result in POPULARITY order. Do you think it is ok that I look for results in one given order and get results in an entirely different order? And again, most people don't know that they will receive a result that is wrong.
3. Can you imagine if the search for movies in alphabetical order would put all the movies beggining with A in popularity order instead of an accurate alphabetical order? Well, it is the same thing. Just as wrong.
4. I simply can't believe that you guys just LOST the software that used to give a perfectly accurate rating order in IMDb good old days, which is definitely gone. 

(sorry for my english)
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Further to my comments above I've just found that short films don't seem to appear when you look to add them now!
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Only tried one Short so far. Typing
Have You Got Any Castles? 
doesn't show that title, but
tt0030215
did find the correct title.
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1. Initially, the Your Lists page was removed and essentially merged with the user profile page. Why was this almost immediately reversed and are its days still numbered?

2. The refine menu for lists now includes an On TV option. Why doesn't the Watchlist, where it would be a lot more useful, have this? At the moment those listings aren't accurate and there doesn't seem to be a way to change your TV service provider.
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Is there a way to somehow store/save the lists that I have created? I would like to make a backup in case they accidentally get deleted due to the recent problems. I can only use the export method but that is not really useful as my lists contain directors and comments.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled The Rise and Fall of the User-List.

As an avid list-creator, of seven years of intensive work, with the sole purpose of trying to create relevant lists that not only promote the films themselves but also the IMDb experience, the latest list of ongoing changes to user-lists is a real kick in the teeth. However, on a more positive note; time that would have normally been spent on IMDb can now be used for more practical purposes.

Thanks for that.

Yours sincerely
Dr-Faustus
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Dr-Faustus, that's kind of how I responded to the closure of the IMDb message boards, in that I started focusing more on contributing, but sadly a lot of those contributions were to the swiki sections of the site, so I partially wasted my time. The worst thing about the IMDb staff is their reluctance to provide forewarning. One minute, the CEO will claim, "O, that aspect of the site will not be affected", and then months later, "We are proud to announce that we have made this simpler." And if you try to inquire ahead of their plans (as I've done for a few of the recent changes [title FAQ pages and ratings pages]), they act like they do not know unless they are ready to come clean.
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How do I change it back because I love being able to watch a film or show looking at lots of lists but I it seems it only selects a couple of ones in relation to a specific film instead of giving me every list that contains the film. Please tell me how to change it back
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Are you referring to the list of user lists in the right column of a title page?

I'm getting a high percentage of errors 404 when I click the "See all related lists »" option, but if I refresh the title page, it usually produces the list the next time I try.
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yeah that but more so looking for more lists by clicking next 100. But I can't find that now which is annoying
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Usually I am able to view lots of lists that were posted but now it's only putting up like 100 for some reason
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Confirmed.

When I look at the user lists for The Wizard of Oz (1939), after getting an error 404, it only displays one page of lists. I'm sure that title has more than 100 lists (yes, I counted) where it appears. And all the lists provided have fewer than 100 titles in each; in fact, most are fewer than 50. Some are recent creations, some older. I wonder how are they selected?

NIall, you might want to provide a couple of examples of films you know have more than what's provided.
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For example, Game of thrones, a very popular series so of course people would feature it in their lists.
http://www.imdb.com/lists/tt0944947?ref_=tt_rls_sm
The link there only shows 100 lists where there should definitely be way, way more. I should be given the ability to click onto another 100 lists.
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This is a temporary limitation during the software migration, sorry.  We will be re-adding the pagination system early in 2018 so you can get beyond the first 100. 

One of the things which this whole update helps to enable is better sort orders for the "Related Lists" pages. 
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As long as I can find more than 100 lists then I'm happy. Thank you at least for responding and one more thing, Could you guys fix the purple colour that comes up instead of blue after you click on a list because it doesn't seem to be working. 
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Also apologies if i seemed rude, It's just frustrating honestly, not a big fan of change when everything was so perfect and simple before
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I can't believe that there is no single way to see my lists in a correct IMDb rating order anymore. This site is always changing for worse. 
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Hi Angelo,

Although this is significantly less convenient, you can use an Advanced Title Search to sort any title list in rating order. If you are logged in, you will see under Lists Include: a list of your title lists.

1. Select one of your lists under Lists Include.
2. Select User Rating Descending under Display Options.
3. Click the yellow Search button.

For example, this is one of my lists sorting in descending order of user ratings:
Highest Rated Titles In Your "All 151 Oscar-Qualifying Documentaries for 2013" List
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls052183003&sort=user_rating,desc

... and, yes, this is much less convenient than being able to do this on the page of the list.
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You didn't understand. The movies with the same rating number are  appearing in popularity order in the lists AND in the advanced title search. There are no way to see an accurate IMDb rating order anymore. Pick the list you used as an example and see it: the movies with the same rating number are appearing in popularity order and not in an accurate user rating order. Ex: all the movies with 7.6 are appearing in popularity order. Sort these 7.6 titles in popularity order and you will see that the result will be the same. Thanks, anyway. 
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It's okay, but I cannot order items the way I used to (dates primarily) and I'm not able to add episode titles. I hope these two items are sorted out asap. 
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Since pretty much everything else seems to be covered, I'll cover a more superficial complaint: the appearance of the lists. 

They felt warmer before, and now they look kind of cold and depressing (in regards to color grading). The items on the list also seem to bleed together more, making it harder for me to differentiate different sections and items. It seemed like there were separation lines before, or more of a contrast between the whites/grays. It made lists easier to read, and now it's harder.

Overall, the lists just feel depressing and harder to read, and for the reasons pointed out before me, just more frustrating to use in general. 

Thanks for listening (hopefully).
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IMDb what are you doing now?! The drag and drop option was literally essential for managing lists! I tried moving a fim in one of my lists earlier tonight and it took three of four attempts to move it incrementally up one position on the list. The drag and drop option was practical and...yes...modern! After the palaver and severely negative reaction surrounding the removal of swathes of functionality from the ratings list, this is another very depressing and discouraging backwards step and yet another own goal.

Guys, I sincerely hope you are not next going to remove all the movies from the database in order to streamline the 'customer unit experience'. These days, anything sadly seems possible.
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Will text formatting within lists be restored?
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Jen,

I certainly hope so.

For instance, the formatting tag for a user name no longer works.

[link=ur0127678] should produce:
dan_dassow

Instead this results:
ur0127678

The link is also incorrect:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls062992205/ur0127678

It should be
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur0127678/
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Jen, could you specify what doesn't work?

All of the tags listed here seem to work:
https://help.imdb.com/article/imdb/tr...

Edit: Possibly the first link type [link]address[/link] does not work in image descriptions in image lists, and single line spaces are still not kept in the new slideshow-style image view.
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Apparently view count is coming back so that's one big problem solved and is just about enough to keep me happy.

Whatever you guys have done to fix the spacing problem has worked a treat. My complicated list now looks exactly how it did before. Well, actually, it looks better. The separation and increased width of the comment section is absolutely awesome for me because some of my comments are 1000 words long.

In terms of moving items, the results seem mixed. Some things have improved and others have deteriorated. The more I try to get used to the system without drag and drop, the more I realise how important it actually was. I heavily underestimated its importance in my earlier posts.

I have an actual bug to report: any film I add via the search box inside of the list editor receives a default list position of "2" according to its text box. I also can't move an item from before position 1314 of my 1322 item list to any position after 1314. If I try, the films all just stay in place. It's like you've programmatically miscalculated the list length somehow.
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Thanks for mentioning the fixed problems.They seem also to have fixed the troubles with + and &.

Yes, I tried alphabetizing today, and it's pretty tough to reorder many titles without drag/drop. I posted this suggestion elsewhere, but it bears repeating: it would be nice if hitting <Enter> while in the Position box triggered SAVE LIST ORDER without having to return to the top of the page and click the link. This is the same feature as we have on the Advanced Title Search, where <enter> within a free response box initiates the Search.

On a keyboard, ctrl-Home and ctrl-End go directly to top and bottom of the screen. 

I created a list of 1322 titles (all different, unless I have a duplicate in there by accident), and get crazy results too.
  • when I add from the first page, the refresh now at the bottom it says showing titles 1-100 of 2. (formerly said 1-100 of 1322.) At the top it says the list has 2 titles period, even though 100 are displayed. I exited, and returned to Edit mode, where "1323 titles" at top and bottom shows "1-100 of 1323". But add another title, and the same refresh bad stuff. 
  • So I hit the NEXT link. "1324 titles" at top, "1-100 of 1324" at bottom.
  • Paged to end of list for a while, until I edited the page number on the URL (success: direct to page 14), added a title. Sure enough, the new title showed Position 2 in its box, and the bottom message is now "1,301 - 2 of 2 "
  • Hit Previous. Changed title at 1,201 to 1326, Save List Order. Title moved properly.
  • Altered Position 1,306 to 1,316. Save LO. No Change in position. 
  • Changed 1,306 to 1316 (no comma), Save LO. Success.
  • Back to page 1, deleted all 100 titles. Added a title from bottom of that page. Still got the bogus count after the addition confirmed refresh.
  • Hit manual refresh to correct the count. Deleted another 100 titles. Added 1. Same bogus count. 
  • Repeated those steps again. Then hit Done, and re-entered Edit mode.
  • Deleted another 100 titles. Sure enough, under 1000 titles, and the message on add-confirm refresh is CORRECT: 1 - 100 of 929, and adding a title on the last page of the list shows the correct position number (not 2).
So, it would be nice if,
  1. when we alter a position number we could leave the comma alone, and 
  2. adding a title to a list with more than 1000 (or 999 or whatever the exact number is) needs a lot of corrections.
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@watchinglotsofstuff -- we're looking into this:

"I have an actual bug to report: any film I add via the search box inside of the list editor receives a default list position of "2" according to its text box. I also can't move an item from before position 1314 of my 1322 item list to any position after 1314. If I try, the films all just stay in place. It's like you've programmatically miscalculated the list length somehow."
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@bderoes: Thanks for replicating! Yeah, seems like some of the same stuff I'm experiencing. Basically, once you get a list that long, it looks like all bets are off and all kinds of bizarre behaviour occurs. 

@Karen: Thanks.
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How can smaller, independant websites like SensCritique have a drag-and-drop system for lists, no problem, yet a grade-A, major website like IMDb can't?
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One more thing: didn't we used to have the pagination control at the top as well as the bottom of list pages? Even if we didn't, I wish we did. Scrolling to the bottom of a page with 100 films and long comments is a total annoyance.
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I have another bug to report:
the description markup [red]...[/red] no longer works, although green does.
I haven't tried all the colors today:
https://www.imdb.com/activity/help/descriptionmarkup
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Yes, it's a pity. I hope they're working on it because the only one that works for me is purple, not green.
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How can I change the list order without the Drag-andr-drop system, Karen?
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And I just found another thing that is gone: to use different kind of colors for the text, I was able to highlight something in my personal description of an item and now is gone, if I write [red]The Ghost Writer[/red] appears in black not red. The new way is just monotonous

I have to say, I like the way the whole format looks now but needs some improvements, incluiding the one I mention above, the counter is another one, bright it back because it makes a list a nothing, as if it's suspended in time. And most importantly, bright the drag-and-drop back, the "new" way to arrenge items on a list is prehistoric, all comes down to refresh everytime I want to erase an item and then add another one to the position when the other one was. Just bring thins one back, please.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled IMDb lists.

Wow does this suck? It's so complicated now. Instead of just hitting one button to delete a listing I have to check the title then scroll all the way up and then it reloads the page..........

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: What about TV episodes lists!?.
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nonduc nonduc

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Yes, this sucks.
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K.Barış Yılmaz Kayalar

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why the list view is canceled from "Your Lists"?.

Why the list view is canceled from "Your Lists"? It was the easiest way to move items from one list to another. How can I do this operation now?
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The 3-vertical-dot menu button to the right of the list title gives an Edit option. You can select and copy from there.
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I just started a new question strand, but it seems it may be relevant to this discussion so I'm repeating it here:

In the last few days (the recent update?) I've noticed that when I search for a title, either in the main search or when I'm trying to add a title to a list, if I type the British title the drop-down suggestion box shows only the American title.  When I click on that it takes me to the right film with the (original) British title intact.  I'm sure it didn't do this before.  My point is that I will not always know that "The Smallest Show On Earth" is known in America as "Big Time Operators", or that "The Boat That Rocked" is known as "Pirate Radio".  And if I don't know the alternate title I don't know to select that item from the suggestion list.  Can anyone at IMDB help please?
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Couldn't agree more.  I may know alternate titles if I've seen the film or look in the index at the back of a reference book.  But some of those used now are really obscure, looks to me like they've defaulted to US titles for everything.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled IMDB Watchlist RSS feed contains HTML.

The RSS watchlist subdomain (http://rss.imdb.com[...]) has recently began serving HTML instead of XML for the feed's content. Looking at the page source it does have the XML header appending to the top of the page but the actual content is HTML. This obviously breaks things. Please fix thanks.
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And it is annoying as hell.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Has the Search Titles facility changed?.

In the last few days (the recent update?) I've noticed that when I search for a title, either in the main search or when I'm trying to add a title to a list, if I type the British title the drop-down suggestion box shows only the American title.  When I click on that it takes me to the right film with the (original) British title intact.  I'm sure it didn't do this before.  My point is that I will not always know that "The Smallest Show On Earth" is known in America as "Big Time Operators", or that "The Boat That Rocked" is known as "Pirate Radio".  And if I don't know the alternate title I don't know to select that item from the suggestion list.  Can anyone at IMDB help please?