Updates to List Pages

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Today (Dec 6) we are announcing an update to the List pages on the IMDb desktop experience. This update is part of the broader site changes announced recently (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for lists. We have merged “compact view” and list editing into a single Edit experience. In that one view, you can now modify your text and add, copy, delete and move items. We have also pulled List actions (edit, export, settings) together into a 1-click menu (the 3 vertical dots on the top right of the page). You will now also find two new options in the Refine menu: ‘In Theaters’ and ‘Keywords.’  Tech constraints on the new system prohibit us from continuing to support drag-and-drop from the Edit view; we appreciate your understanding. For more information about Lists, see the IMDb Help Center.
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BUG LIST for this thread

I wanted to collect all the bugs and suggestions we reported since the switch flipped on Dec 6. I'll put the suggestions in a second list as a comment to this one to keep them together.

If I omitted something, accept my apologies and let me know. I'm certain that although I just scanned through all 4 pages of posts, some posts didn't display unless I clicked a View More link midstream. I may have missed some that way.

I've included responses from IMDb officials when got something.
  1. missing 4 columns from export lists and checkins: directors, you rated, release date, url; added back dir, rel and url, but not in original sequence; working on adding ratings
  2. fixed: missing list of lists 
  3. fixed: description display issues (&, +, -, line break issues)
  4. description display issues (&, +, -, line break issues) on Image list 
  5. view count was removed; now it's back but vast quantity of counts are missing; will it show the "in last 3 days" or similar count?
  6. within Edit mode, Select list (to copy or move titles) doesn't include a Create new list option
  7. in Edit mode, Add a title doesn't find TV episodes or short films unless the title id is used
  8. in Edit mode, Add a title doesn't support using the full url
  9. in ATS and when sorting lists, IMDb rating order is no longer accurate: when titles have the same visible average, they are then sorted by popularity instead of further decimal places
  10. Related lists to a title is restricted to 100 lists; Col says we'll get full access back in early 2018
  11. description user link [link=ur###] gives wrong text and wrong link
  12. Edit mode, reordering a title in a list of over 1000 titles gives false feedback on refresh "1,301 - 2 of 2" at bottom of screen, 2 titles at top of screen
  13. Edit mode, reordering a title, leaving comma in position number gives NO change in order
  14. Edit mode, reordering all titles but one, the unaltered title does not retain its position
  15. Edit mode, adding title to last page of list longer than 1000 titles, falsely shows new item's position as 2; Karen replied 'looking into it'
  16. RSS watchlist feed reverted to HTML instead of XML.
  17. exporting another person's lists is gone; Karen says they're working on it
  18. the creation date for a list is gone; Karen says they're working on it
  19. text produced for company link is missing (just displays co code) [link=co###]
  20. display of non-Latin alphabet in descriptions has failed; now just string of &##; codes
  21. starmeter and date of birth gone from people lists
  22. people list, edit, add search doesn't find porn cast
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Ayyy I was doing something similar at exactly the same time. Yours is better though. Mine's more of a descriptive overview.

Edit: I must admit the guy with the pornstar complaint cracked me up.
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Since posting the bug and suggestion lists, I've received no emails from this site.

Ah. problem on my end.

Here it looks as though I can't edit either the reply (bug list) nor the comment (suggestion list), and I need to add to suggestion list; I'll do it here for now:

Suggestion 14. Edit mode, alter position, allow <enter> within position box to trigger Save List Order.
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Okay. Thank you, bderoes.
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Hello bederoes,
I miss one error in your list and that is that the title of the movies is not the same in the display mode as in the export file. In listing they are showing the local title (in my case the Swedish release name) but in the export file it is showing the original title. For me this is a big issue.
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OK, if I understand correctly:

Bug 23. Export list, title should be the local version (per user settings), not the original version

more Bugs:
24: Edit mode, TV episode does not show name of series
25: Can't edit Watchlist with > 9,999 titles; get error 500

Additional Suggestions (I just had to find a View Previous link to find my original list in this thread of comments).
14. Edit mode, alter position, allow <enter> within position box to trigger Save List Order.
15. return to old compact view, with column for date rated
16. Add the Refine sort options to Edit mode to facilitate Move To selection and List Order changes.
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Things I need
  • Predictable, deterministic, well-defined reordering behaviour. The >1000 film, "2 of 2 pages" and 2nd position bugs all need fixing.
  • At least one way to move an item one position upwards that doesn't require any scrolling. This can be drag and drop or, as bderoes has suggested, a form submit event firing whenever the user presses enter inside a position textbox. The current solution of scrolling down to an item, changing its position number, scrolling all the way back up and then clicking a button to move an item up one place is not good enough.
  • Fixed "Export CSV". It should export the same fields as before. And it should actually work. I'm still getting a ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_CONTENT_DISPOSITION, which sounds like "this is not a recognised file and HTTP response combination".
Things I want
  • Colour tags returned. These are very useful in complex lists that make extensive use of comments to give additional information about films. I can see absolutely no reason for their removal. I find it perplexing. Sure, as a feature, it's probably used by a fraction of a percent of all list-makers but the people who do use it are overwhelmingly the advanced and popular list-makers most likely to leave for another platform.
  • List comments no longer italicised. There are other ways to demarcate text as "user content". All perma-italics does is make our comments look less presentable and preclude the use of italics for emphasis and for the grammatically correct citing of film titles.
  • The film search from within list editor mode has been absolutely castrated: far fewer results and no subdivision into "exact", "substring" etc. I want it returned to how it was before.
Open questions
  • How does the new view counter work? Is it now counting all list views from an arbitrary date? If so, when? Is there a rolling window? I'm fine with modifying every list to start counting views from the same date but I want the total to be cumulative rather than rolling. From now on, our view counts should only ever increase.
Things you've done well
  • Formatting fixes were rolled out quickly and effectively. There's been no damage to my list's contents.
  • Comments now feel central to lists (which is exactly what they are on my list). The separated and expanded comment area is the change I never knew I needed. The width is spot-on for readability while making comments feel like less of an afterthought.
  • Finally - finally - links work properly in the main list description box.
  • The whole UI on both the user and editor side just looks better to me now. There's no debating that the old UI was starting to feel very web 2.0. That's not inherently a bad thing, of course, and some people will prefer it but I rather like the new look.
  • I love some of the minor touches like being able to see full comments in editor mode rather than a scrolling textarea.
One single feature that would stop me migrating from IMDb
  • The ability to reorder my entire list from a single page (i.e. an option to display all items on one page). I've been promising people that I would reorder my list so that all films in a particular genre would end up on page 3. Given that I have 1300 items in total and the items I need to move are scattered at unknown locations throughout those 1300, finding and moving them all without a one-page view would just be a hellish experience.
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@bderoes: Hi, friendo. I had a lumbar puncture this week so not really been in the mood for much list-making. But, yes, my list count was increasing. Moot point now though since they seem to have almost fully restored the old functionality. God bless complaining!

Yeah, I figured out the presence of 3 (!!) commas in my list title was screwing me over. The thing is: I just don't want to change the name of my list on principle. It was exporting before with its existing title and it should be exporting now. Maybe I'll yield if it never gets fixed and I need a backup but right now, I'm going to have (perhaps misguided) faith in the IMDb team.
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@Euler, Keester: I agree. At university I often used to be able to predict how much I would dislike someone based on how many Apple products they owned,

Unfortunately, that's why I don't have easy access to an iPhone for the IMDb app. I don't tend to know the kind of people who own iPhones. In this one case, it's a shame.
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@watchinglotsofstuff: Good to hear from you. I hope your lumbar puncture, and the reason for getting it, are turning out to be good for/about your health! I missed you! Shall I send an email to the address I found on the contact page of your adventures website? GS is not the place for me to follow up on your status.

I had never really backed up my lists, and with all the sudden changes on this site (I pity the dedicated reviewers, and many other subsets of users in just the last month), that it was time. So I took out the comma and don't feel inclined to bring it back. Of course, once they restore the my_rating column, I'll want to backup a lot of them again. 

I'm really amazed at how little the IMDb staff acknowledges bug reports, and that they don't report back when they've fixed stuff. The bug list is up to 26 items now, and 17 suggestions.  I only know of 6 that have been touched, and mostly because I discovered it or other users reported success. Of course, I'd rather they work on fixing things than on telling us about them, but ...
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Thank you! <3

I'd tell you what's up with me but this place is a little too public for my liking. Also you can call me Elliott. It's shorter and more accurate.

You're an effective stalker, my friend. I don't even think that email address goes anywhere anymore. If you've got Facebook, I'm down in my own list comments talking to people. It's a shame they removed IMDb PMs, eh?

I kept weekly backups of my list for a long time because I'm a cynic. I was half expecting the list feature to just disappear in the middle of the night. I'm shocked that they decided to "improve" it rather than remove it, frankly.

You're doing an excellent job of being IMDb's bug tracker. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates it! I think we can take some limited solace in the fact that they do actually appear to be fixing things (seemingly at random) from your list. A status update from them would be nice but actions > words and all that!

I must lay flat on my back and not get annoyed according to my doctor so I shall remain zen on the list issue. Maybe when the crippling fatigue wears off they'll have magically fixed everything.

Happy to see you still here :)
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@watchinglotsofstuff:

Well, since I missed the idea of checking the comments section on your list (way, way far from the top; wouldn't it be nice if IMDb offered a Close option for the List's Description?), I give myself a C- at best for stalking.

I just left you a PM on FB, and hopefully turned on Message Notifications on my end. I'm a social media abstainer, but have a minimal FB acct.
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SLOW FEST CONTINUES... Just three new 'slows'.

1. For few  new added titles in ~350 items list were arranged new numbers placing them on page 1 and 2 of the list. Reordering button pushed. Result: only titles assigned for page 1 were moved, the titles for page 2 stayed at the end of list. I've to re-do operations for them. Java-script do not work properly. It's SLOW.

2. Searching for new title. Slow but works. And searching for new one. Nop. Displaying result for previous title, i.e. the first search result. OMG. Only second 'Enter' on title in a search field gives new result. VERY SLOW and very buggy.

3. New multi-line comment added and now... play the game, please, catch the save button -- it jumps from your mouse. Only second click works. Not very slow but buggy and SLOW.

P.S. And is the restoring of colour tags a big deal? Seriously?
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I've described not speed of my comp but BUGS in script work. And buggy script work SLOWS my work on list editing. Am I clear? 
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But it's not slow for everybody apparently, which means that the problem is (mostly) on the client end. Bugs? Are any warnings or errors produced in the browser's console?
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Jeorj Euler, please, see #1 of my post. Some titles moved and some not. It nothing to do with clients end software or hardware. I can only add new comment: some titles do not move to the same page also and that's destroys list order and I have to do more list re-ordering.
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I'm unconvinced. Sorry.
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I detailed my troubles with attempted reordering at and above this comment:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=...

I cannot concur about response times being slow. The reordering process is unreasonably labor-intensive for humans, but the computer response time seems reasonable to me. That is both on a Chromebook and on a Windows 10 laptop, and I don't buy top-of-the-line equipment.
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I'm keep getting error message as I can't access my list, even though I can edit it. Could u please fix this http://www.imdb.com/list/ls5605307161/
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Do you guys even think of use cases when you design your changes? The new lists are awful. All I want to do is to filter my list by movies I rated and move them out to another list. It was very easy with old structure, how many hoops I need to jump through now to do this simple operation? It's FUBAR, shame.
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Ah, yes, the good old days of compact list with Refine options and checkboxes and Copy/Move options.

If I wanted to do this today on a long list, I'd use the Refined list, tick the + in the corner of the poster to place the title in my WatchList, and transfer from the Watchlist to the destination. An extra step for sure, and I'd need to remember the first title added to Watchlist.

But I must confess that, except for the loss of drag/drop sorting, and needing navigation&other options at the bottom&top of the page, I like the new Edit mode a lot.. Seeing that I haven't rated the title yet is a great help, as is the title having an active link, and the comment box's flexible size. Perhaps the biggest benefit to me is the ability to reverse the sort order within Edit, so I can quickly access the titles just added to the end of the list.
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@bderoes  The drawback of moving a title from a specific user-created list to Watchlist is that your own personal comments (in the "Add A Note" section for each title) are not transferred along with it. After being transferred to Watchlist, the Add A Note section is blank. If the Add A Note section moved along with the title (like it does when you move a title from Watchlist to another list), I could learn to live with this new system.

Unfortunately, the Advanced Title Search option does not allow a title to be moved from one list to another. No checkboxes.
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Pete wrote:
Unfortunately, the Advanced Title Search option does not allow a title to be moved from one list to another. No checkboxes.
That is indeed a major limitation. The Advanced Title Search was never intended to interact directly with lists.
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@Pete
Moving or Copying to the Watchlist does NOT lose comment data. I just tried it now. And with our new Update, the Edit mode for Watchlist lets you edit or add comments. 

Using the Flag on an ATS compact list or on a title page or a + on a poster is Adding, not moving or copying, and that indeed creates a comment-free entry in the Watchlist.

I don't use comments on all my lists, and you didn't mention that you had comments to preserve in your original post.

I agree that Edit mode needs the Sort and Refine features that we have outside of Edit. I did  NOT intend to say the system is perfect as is.
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Moving or Copying to the Watchlist does NOT lose comment data.
I stand corrected, bderoes. I just did a test with one title (moving it from Library Hold to Watchlist, then back to Library Hold) and my comments moved along with it. I swear this didn't work yesterday! I appreciate your comment, as I probably would have given up and figured that function was lost forever.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Display and edit settings in list..

I see that there have been recent changes to list edit page. And I am severely disappointed in seeing that still there is no option/way of displaying all the items on one page(while viewing or editing). 

People at Imdb must understand that it becomes very difficult to manage the list when there are a total of hundreds of items in the list and only 100 items displaying on one page! 
To know where to insert the item, or even just to view the whole list, one has to traverse through a lot of pages and do a lot of clicks and scrolling down.

I think Imdb has missed a great opportunity to fix this issue. I request to please provide this option. If you can't, the least you can do:-

  1.  is to provide the button/click option, to traverse to next page at the starting/top of the page, because everytime one has to go to the next page, one has to first scroll all the way to the down!    And/Or,
  2. provide the option to go/traverse to any page(first, second, third, fourth, etc.), on all of the pages - the way it is on Google Search pages.

Thanks.
  
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While we're waiting for that improvement, you can alter the URL to specify the page number:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls020839949/edit?page=2
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bderoes :  Many thanks, that was very simple yet tricky.
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Please bring back Compact View and the drag and drop functionality in Edit mode. It would also be great if Edit mode could get its own Compact View.
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This capacity was probably available before this week's update, but...

Because of Dan Dassow's superb revelation that ATS compact formatting can be applied to lists made by others, I have also applied this technique to comparing someone else's list with mine, namely: set up the ATS with 2 of my lists, then replace the id of my surrogate list with the id of the other person's list.

So this URL
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls076628701,ls007035631
gives 
Most Popular Titles In Your "megapack: Family Classics 50" List, In Your "own" List

The first list is the surrogate, so I replace ls076628701 with the id of the target list on a different account, and I get the subset of titles belonging to both lists.

Of course, if you want to refine the search with other parameters, you have to do so on the surrogate, and then substitute the target again. And there's no reason one of your own lists need be involved, except as a surrogate. Anything ATS can do to my lists, I can get it to do to a list not mine.

I'm very excited about this, since it beats the heck off importing that other list (100 titles at a time) into my account, doing my searches and then deleting the import.

Dan, thanks AGAIN!
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@Keester
I am genuinely curious about my question to you: "How does it hurt you to have a duplicate in your list?"

Especially since the system doesn't force it to happen, doesn't mandate that you use it.

But when you lobby for Uniqueness, you are advocating removing functionality that others use and enjoy. Isn't there something in the last week that IMDb has removed that you want back? That's how others would feel if you won the debate for uniqueness.

I don't understand what you would gain by having duplicates banned.
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Here are 2 topics for gratitude: we have the time and resources to indulge in IMDb. And I was able to Export someone else's title list of almost 10,000 entries!


@Keester:


I see you have several very long lists. I picked the first long one, did ATS to see if it had dupes, Exported it, and isolated the dupes.


On your list ls074047442
All the TV Series & Episodes I own..and those I've seen, I've rated part 1

had 9998 titles, 5 duplicates (none have comments)
Position    Const      Created
6405 tt0096373 2015-10-17
1841 tt0096373 2015-06-15
8141 tt0119545 2016-01-06
8099 tt0119545 2016-01-06
6397 tt0279693 2015-10-17
658 tt0279693 2015-06-15
8466 tt4090552 2016-01-09
8465 tt4090552 2016-01-09
9406 tt4669954 2017-01-02
9405 tt4669954 2017-01-02



If position is not important, these dupes can be removed from the title page (deselect and re-select that list). Since you have multiple lists with long names that are the same until the end, remember that the list of lists in that drop-down is in date modified order, and if this list wasn't first, it will be after the first deselect. If you decide to rename your list, beware that a comma in the name can prevent Export (I submitted a problem report, so maybe they'll fix it.) Right now, your comma is safely beyond the point where it would be included in the .csv name.


If position is important, and you want to delete one instead of the other, I have good news. Within Edit mode, it is possible to alter the URL to go directly to the page you need. Remember page 1 will hold titles 1-100, so title 6405 should be on page 65. Here would be your url:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074047442/edit?sort=list_order,asc&page=65



In case someone is reading this who wants to find duplicates in their own long list, here's what I did in Open Office Spreadsheet; Excel will be the same with one possible exception noted below:
  1. sort the whole sheet by the title ID
  2. insert a new column before col A
  3. in cell A2, enter the formula =IF(OR(C2=C3;C2=C1);"*****";"")
    1. in Excel each ; might need to be ,
    2. I used the OR to see both dupes after step 8
  4. copy cell A2
  5. highlight all the cells in column A that have title data in their row (I do this by ctrl-End to the bottom of the list, highlight the last col A cell, hold shift while pushing the scroll bar up to the top, and clicking on the cell A3)
  6. paste the clipboard to all those highlighted cells (you could paste to the whole column, but I've had trouble with that in the past).   //Rather than scrolling through the list, I want to bring the dupes to the top, so:
  7. highlight col A, copy col A, Paste Special (not just Paste) col A (text but not formulas)
  8. click on a cell in col A (very important!) to release the highlight, then sort Z to A 
You should see your dupes at the top of the list.


Although that process is faster than it looks, it might be faster to check for dupes before merging lists - if you remember do to it. (ATS, Include both lists.) BTW, I didn't use a spreadsheet to find dupes in my 1700+ title list; I described that above: Sorted both versions (ATS compact result and Edit mode of the list) with the same criteria, and both lists with 100 titles per page. Checked that first and last titles matched on page 1, etc. When I found a mismatch, looked at the middle title on both copies of that page, cut the bad half in half again, then matched one at a time. 
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I know very well how to find duplicates. Thank you for teaching my grandmother how to suck eggs.

My contention is that lists should be UNIQUE so as duplicates don't occur. Nothing in an entry in a title list can be different from a duplicate entry except comment. Director is always the same, URL is always the same, etc. If comment is the only thing that can be different why not merge them into one comment.
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Poll-makers may want to separate the stats. In a sense, each vote is for a comment rather than a linkable entity.
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In my recent example, I wanted to list the same movie twice (or more) because different clips with different actors were present in the mashup video, with several other clips from other movies in between. The list follows the flow of the video. Of the 82 clips, one film was had clips at positions 39 and 48, another at 6 and 49. The point of the list was to allow the viewer to watch the video, and with the list along side, see the names of the actors on screen. If both credits were compressed into a single entry in the table, that would not be nearly so useful.

Both Jeorj and Dan have mentioned polls. I've seen several polls that use the same movie more than once, but different scenes are up for a vote. Those have to be in the same list to be in the same poll, yet they need to be separate items, not 2 comments on the same entry.

I still haven't heard why you find duplicates offensive to your use of lists. You've successfully explained that only the comments can be different, and you seem indifferent to others uses for the feature that has existed for a while (forever?) Why does it matter that your list of 10,000 titles has 5 duplicates? Or is it another type of list you keep where this is a problem?
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled RSS feed for watchlist is showing normal web-page content for watchlist instead o....

When I go to the page http://rss.imdb.com/user/ur5439845/watchlist I expect to see RSS/feed XML content, but I'm greeted with a normal web-page of my watchlist. I'm using this feed with another service, which is showing parse failures because it doesn't contain valid feed XML anymore.

Can you please fix this issue? I noticed it today, so it could be a regression from a recent software update of your system.

Kind regards,
Robin Smidsrød
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Is the RSS feed issue being addressed?
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Now I am pretty sure that if there was a race for running backward, Imdb people/staff would win a medal in that race!
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Without compact mode its like writing a book but instead of now 2 or 3 paragraphs per page its like one sentence a page.  That's what its like for me without compact mode (250 titles a page).  Its extremely annoying.  I'd rather make my lists on Microsoft Word.  There was no reason to get rid of this feature, other than possibly money (which I don't see a reason for that).  I view/update my lists all the time in compact mode and find it very frustrating that it is gone now.

Can IMDB please at the very least make these lists available in compact mode only for the publisher of the lists?  Again its like writing a story but you have to keep flipping/scrolling up page after page to see what you wrote just a little while ago.  I would appreciate a response as I have been a long time IMDB user since the 90s.  Thank you we appreciate your work and hope you value our input.
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If you need all the functionality of the old compact list (as do I), this suggestion won't help you. But if seeing the list compressed and taggable will help some situations (as it does for me), then use Advanced Title Search, or this URL replacing "watchlist" with your target list id (including lists not your own):
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?count=250&view=simple&lists=watchlist

Credit for this idea belongs to Dan Dassow!
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Thanks for the suggestion but yeah unfortunately its not what I'm looking for.  I would really like the old format back.  To be honest I haven't even looked at my lists since the change has been made.  I'm probably just going to export it and do it all through Word like I used to.

I really hope to hear back from the IMDB staff to at least acknowledge or give my suggestion a thought.  Again would appreciate it if IMDB at least lets the publisher view their own lists in compact mode at least.  Editing mode isn't really much better.  I just want to see my list by title, year, votes and rating.  I don't need to see full descriptions, pictures or my comments because I know what they are already.
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OK now I kinda see why.  There's a watch now button with the detailed and grid view.  But I don't see how they wouldn't be able to add that with the compact view.  Just add a little icon next to the title if they're so eager to make people watch on Amazon.  Like a watch now hyperlink next to the title.  Can you do this please IMDB?
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Who are these people that you, amazon.com and Netflix employ to "improve" your websites?  I've enjoyed imdb.com for 17 years.  It's always been a basic website.  Please leave it that way.  It doesn't need to look nicer.  It needs to be functional.
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not even look nicer after the update, they ruin everything.
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It might not be the biggest problem especially for others but I always loved when I click into something it would go from blue to purple to show that I have clicked on it. But now that doesn't seem to be happening when I reload the page or come back the day after to go on the "lists related" part. For example, yesterday I was using the breaking bad lists page but when I went back to it today everything that was purple showing I had clicked on it was blue, any chance this could be fixed. 
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Niall Hassett, you should right-click on a link and then select "Copy Link Location" and then paste it here for each case, such as when it is blue and when it is violet. That way we'll be able to better see what is going on. If push comes to shove, you might have to use the "Save Page As..." option, and then upload the file in which you saved the HTML page to somewhere (on the world-wide web) where we can see it.
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will have a go at that,thanks
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http://www.imdb.com/list/ls064221718/?ref_=rltls_1
It will probably later on when it turns back to blue so will post it then
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Mozilla Firefox has an internal preference variable named "browser.history_expire_days". If your web browser is version of such a make, then check to see what that value is at the URI about:config. If the value is absurdly low (like one day), then you might want to double, triple or quadruple whatever it is. There is a similar setting just about all web browsers. For Firefox, there are some other preference variables that may be of interest.
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@Niall Hassett

I'm not seeing the problem you report. This is a screen grab I made using Windows 7 Professional Firefox Quantum 57.0.2 (64-bit).



It's possible the problem has already been resolved. It's also possible that the problem is device, operating system or browser dependent. It's also possible that you need to reboot your device and/or remove temporary files and/or defrag your hard drive.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Using the IMDb list to add titles is a lot more troublesome now, especially addin....

I am sure that there has been plenty of criticism about some of the recent changes made to IMDb, something that is inevitable when such a large platform undergoes changes. I also understand that this one post alone will probably not bring forth the changes that I hope for but nevertheless, I'd like to list some issues I have been having with the site over the past couple of days. 

Firstly, I must say that I really love implementing the IMDb star rating and # of votes into both customized lists and episode lists as found for the TV shows. I love that interface and I think it works wonderfully. However, what I am not so much a fan of are some of the changes made to the list editing mode. I can no longer add a TV episode by pasting the URL of the episode into the 'Add a movie or TV show to this list'. That was a convenience I loved about adding episode titles onto IMDb and without that convenience, it's really no different to how Trakt.tv works with customized lists. Now I have to go through each title on its own separate page and add the episode from there. 

I also think the editing mode on IMDb is a lot more problematic now and found the earlier interface in-editing mode to be much clearer. This is clearly a less pressing issue for me and once again, I welcome the addition of the star rating with open arms. 

I also wish we had the 'list' mode (or whatever it was called) for reading a list. I'm not sure how commonly used it was by users but I personally loved it, especially when I wanted to go through a list at a quick pace. I also found it a much easier way to actually organize items within a list and I hate the fact that it's now gone. The list mode was something I also used when I wanted to browse custom lists for a TV show (say favourite episodes of [insert show]) without spoiling for myself episodes and/or pivotal moments as there was no thumbnail on the list mode. 

Anyways, I love some of the changes and don't love some of the others. I would hope that there's the possibility of at least restoring the list mode AND the ability to add TV episodes in editing mode by pasting the URLs. 
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Yes I believe you're referring to compact mode and yes I agree with my post above.  IMDB wants users to click on the title that links to Amazon.  Which is fine but they can easily do that with compact mode as well by adding a watch now hyperlink.  Hope they reconsider bringing this back this mode.
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Not being able to drag and drop is a terrible idea! I change the order of my lists frequently and the method of putting the order number in doesn't work. Please restore the drag and drop feature or I will no longer use the lst feature as it is useless to me without it.
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I am quite disappointed with the functionality and look of the new lists. The movie poster images are smaller - making the list look less attractive. Sorting functions are much less intuitive now, and the removal of drag and drop functionality is baffling. Why would you make the lists harder to use? I really enjoyed the previous list feature before these changes - you could say it was perfect even. Now however, making lists to keep track of watched films and such is no longer enjoyable. It is a headache and a half, and browsing the lists is a chore because the new look is much uglier than the old one.

I agree with most of the posters here - the new list function is counterintuative, and makes IMDB as a webpage less enjoyable to use - almost to the point of me creating lists in another program or website. I do enjoy IMDB - but with watchlist options on Bluray.com, Rotten Tomatoes and so on, why would you try and drive users away?

Summing up - I am greatly disappointed with the changes made, and I hope IMDB can revert the changes back to the old system - or at least make it as similar as possible to the look and usability of the older list function.
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Ditto, ditto, ditto.

Someone at IMDb justifying their job making lots of changes without consultation with the very people who keep them in work the USERS.

I hope IMDb are enjoying all the backtracking re-enabling features they took away.

Will they learn from this huge mistake and insult to the users? I hope so.
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Totally agree.  I've checked back in this thread much much more often in the past couple of days than any lists.  If you really look at the changes it seems they're trying to cater to Amazon videos to purchase.  For this reason I think its pushed me over the edge to cancel my Amazon prime membership.  lol

I'm going to give them a chance to at least address the points I made earlier about the compact view but who knows.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why remove a feature with no replacement?.

Why remove a feature with no replacement? The compact view was the only way I could tell the date of when I added a movie to my list. Now I can only sort by date added but no way for me to tell for example if I added it to the list more than 3 months ago or not. This is a feature I used weekly to help me sort my movie list. Another feature that would be nice is if I could see the Popularity Score on the preview screen instead of needing to click through on each movie. I don't keep movies in my library higher than a particualar score. Thank you. please add the date added or compact view back or something similar.
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Hi Duane Goodwin,

Until we can convince the IMDb Technical staff to restore the compact view and/or to show the date added in the full view, there is a work around. You can export the list to a CSV (comma separated variable) and read the file back in via Excel or Open Office. "Created" is the date that an entry was added.

These are the data fields in the exported CSV file:
  • Position
  • Const
  • Created
  • Modified
  • Description
  • Title
  • URL
  • Title Type
  • IMDb Rating
  • Runtime (mins)
  • Year
  • Genres
  • Num Votes
  • Release Date
  • Directors
I fully agree this is much less convenient and a lot more work, but at least it is a work around.
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Thanks for the tip.  Not ideal but at least there's a workaround.
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I don't get it, why u removed the compact view? I used it for my watchlist and a personal list called "Upcoming movies", to have a fine and clean overview of the most important informations I needed to know. Now I have a bunch of useless infos like a poster, synopsis or crew and I need to scroll so many lines now that is insane.
If you believe people like this kind of view, its fine to add it, but why on earth do u remove importand stuff like the compact view for a list feature?
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Before the update, when you went to edit a list with episodes, it would show the name of the show as well as the title of the episode while you were editing it.  This was really convenient because I generally don't like putting two episodes from the same show too close together in my lists.  Now, we can only see the title of the episode so you don't necessarily know which show the episode is from while you're editing the list and it just makes the whole process more confusing and lengthy (e.g. if an episode just says "Pilot" it's very hard to figure out what show that's from).  Also, please strongly consider giving us back the ability to drag and drop.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Can't edit watchlist.

After the latter changes, I can't edit my watchlist. I get an 500 error. The list is private and has 10000 titles. I can edit the rest of my lists but they have much less titles.
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One more question. Why can I sort lists in the edit page just by "list order" and "date added"? I regular move movies from a list called "Upcoming movies" to "Watchlist" if they have more than 1000 votes. This sorting was possible with the old (better!!!) list feature. Now its impossible to me to sort AND move movies from this list, so its more or less useless. Neither "list order" nor "date added" helps me, to move the movies with more than 1000 votes.

So please add more sorting options to the edit page.

Thank you.
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This is a perfect application for Advanced Title Search, whether you choose Compact or Detailed output; tap on the Watchlist icon to the right of the title and the title is added to the Watchlist.
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I guess you not really got the point I was making. I was talking about moving movies from one list to another list.
For example, I have a custom list called "Upcoming Movies" where I put any upcoming movies I may want to watch, so I can keep track of them. In my Watchlist there are only released movies I really want to watch. From time to time I check the "Upcoming Movies" list, if any of them are released and how the user rating is. Then I decide what movies I want to watch, move them to my Watchlist and delete the rest.
This only works, if I can sort the edit Page of the Lists by "Number of Votes" or "IMDB Rating", otherwise I have to check the whole list of movies one by one, what is really anyoing and time-cosuming.
With the old design I was able to do all of this very easily.
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@JonDoe

It's true that my suggestion doesn't completely satisfy your concerns, although you don't have to check your list one by one to determine if the title is ready to move; the List sort has a Number of Votes option. But yes, then you have to hunt for those titles within your list.

For the IMDb execs, let's point out that even after using ATS to find and copy titles to the Watchlist, there is NO way to sort the ATS list in one of the ways that Edit mode sorts the origin list (List Order, Date Added) to give Position within the list. And when you sort the list outside of Edit mode, it renumbers everything, so you still don't know the position in order to remove it. So not only do you have to remove the titles by hand, but you have no way of knowing where they are in the original list.

I added your suggestion (merged with Pete's suggestion below) to the running lists I'm keeping of Bugs and of Suggestions as 
16. Add the Refine sort options to Edit mode to facilitate Move To selection and List Order changes.
just above this comment: http://email.getsatisfaction.com/wf/click?upn=Gf15zKkQ5xF-2FJchx2RlboEZCOWJo71NP9bexmc7o9m-2Bb0WYK-2...

The Official Reps may be ignoring those lists, but I want to see how things develop with this feature of IMDb.
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I agree with JonDoe regarding sorting lists.

When in EDIT mode, please allow sort function by ALPHABETICAL. This is currently available only when in NON-EDIT mode (see below).

It would save me lots of time to edit movies in my list if I could search for them in alphabetical order
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I have a list of 1338 movies. I wanted to exclude one of these movies and I couldn't find it, because there is no more the basic ALPHABETICAL order in the edit mode. I can't believe in how many wrong things you guys did with these changes. It's really incredible. Not even the correct IMDb rating order we can see in the lists anymore. It's just a blending of rating and popularity that misleads people and you don't even care to warn them. Please, please, please. Bring back the old lists system, where we can FIND a movie and where we can put the lists in a correct rating order. 
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Hi Angelo Pilla,

Here is a work around until the IMDb Technical Staff restores the ability to sort lists by other than alphabetical order. Admittedly, this is not as convenient as being able to do this on the list page.

You can sort your list various ways using the Advanced Title Search.

1. From the drop down menu next to the search box, select Advanced Search.

2. On the Advanced Search select Advanced Title Search.

3. Under Lists Include: select one of your title lists.

4. Under Display Options, you can choose:
4a. Detailed or Compact
4b. 50 or 100 titles per page for Detailed, 100 or 250 title per page for Compact.
4c. Sorted by


5. Click the yellow Search button.

For example, this is one of my title lists:
Lowest Rated Titles In Your "305 Films Qualified for Oscars in 2015" List
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls031350281&sort=user_rating,asc&view=simple
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Angelo Pilla

If you want to remove one title from a list, just go to the title page, hover over the + for Watchlist, and select the list from which you want to delete the title.

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@Angelo Pilla
Separate issue: sort by ratings. I was able to duplicate what you're reporting. I happen to have 100 titles in one of my lists that all have IMDb average rating of "6.9", and when I have ATS sort by User/IMDb Rating, I get the same sequence as when I ask for Popularity sort.

When I clicked the reverse order link on User Rating, it had no effect. (Reversing Popularity works.)

Then I checked to see if sort by UR is just dead in ATS, and expanded to 6.8-6.9, and it managed to separate the 6.8's from the 6.9's, but used popularity within those.

Using the Refine and Sort options on the List page itself gave the same results.

I did include your report as #9 on the Bug list I set up 3 days ago above this comment:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=...

Of course, IMDb is likely ignoring that list, and maybe all the posts to this thread by now.
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Hi Angelo Pilla,

The main flaw in this workaround is that you cannot move a movie from one list to another list. There is no selection box to click, as there is in the current list Edit mode.

So although I am able to find a particular movie in one of my lists, I'm not able to move it... say, from "2017" to "Saw 2017."

In other words, a step in the right direction, but still not a satisfactory workaround. The best solution would be: When in EDIT mode, allow sort function by ALPHABETICAL.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Watchlist.

Currently 8709 in my watch list, 71 not rated. Advanced search a faff and doesn't give me same options I previously had.
This is a fantastic website despite recent sell out to advertising and now invasive selling in how we use our own watch lists.
By all means add 'where to watch' to please don't take away 'you and your list' options.
Thanks.

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: I can't sort my watchlist by movies I haven't rated yet.
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Color formatting is particularly useful for the Christmas holidays. This poll suggestion list effectively makes use of the colors green and red.
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls066275752/mediaviewer/rm2050926080


Unfortunately, if the author were to edit this list, the color formatting will disappear.
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I've been testing text formatting and determined the color will not disappear in the media viewer. I will post more information later.