Updates to List Pages

  • 11
  • Announcement
  • Updated 5 months ago
  • (Edited)
Today (Dec 6) we are announcing an update to the List pages on the IMDb desktop experience. This update is part of the broader site changes announced recently (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/upcoming-changes-to-several-imdb-features-du6man1opd5q0). After in-depth discussion and examination, we have decided to simplify the features and functionality for lists. We have merged “compact view” and list editing into a single Edit experience. In that one view, you can now modify your text and add, copy, delete and move items. We have also pulled List actions (edit, export, settings) together into a 1-click menu (the 3 vertical dots on the top right of the page). You will now also find two new options in the Refine menu: ‘In Theaters’ and ‘Keywords.’  Tech constraints on the new system prohibit us from continuing to support drag-and-drop from the Edit view; we appreciate your understanding. For more information about Lists, see the IMDb Help Center.
Photo of Karen

Karen, Official Rep

  • 87 Posts
  • 112 Reply Likes

Posted 10 months ago

  • 11
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
This capacity was probably available before this week's update, but...

Because of Dan Dassow's superb revelation that ATS compact formatting can be applied to lists made by others, I have also applied this technique to comparing someone else's list with mine, namely: set up the ATS with 2 of my lists, then replace the id of my surrogate list with the id of the other person's list.

So this URL
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls076628701,ls007035631
gives 
Most Popular Titles In Your "megapack: Family Classics 50" List, In Your "own" List

The first list is the surrogate, so I replace ls076628701 with the id of the target list on a different account, and I get the subset of titles belonging to both lists.

Of course, if you want to refine the search with other parameters, you have to do so on the surrogate, and then substitute the target again. And there's no reason one of your own lists need be involved, except as a surrogate. Anything ATS can do to my lists, I can get it to do to a list not mine.

I'm very excited about this, since it beats the heck off importing that other list (100 titles at a time) into my account, doing my searches and then deleting the import.

Dan, thanks AGAIN!
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
@Keester
I am genuinely curious about my question to you: "How does it hurt you to have a duplicate in your list?"

Especially since the system doesn't force it to happen, doesn't mandate that you use it.

But when you lobby for Uniqueness, you are advocating removing functionality that others use and enjoy. Isn't there something in the last week that IMDb has removed that you want back? That's how others would feel if you won the debate for uniqueness.

I don't understand what you would gain by having duplicates banned.
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
Here are 2 topics for gratitude: we have the time and resources to indulge in IMDb. And I was able to Export someone else's title list of almost 10,000 entries!


@Keester:


I see you have several very long lists. I picked the first long one, did ATS to see if it had dupes, Exported it, and isolated the dupes.


On your list ls074047442
All the TV Series & Episodes I own..and those I've seen, I've rated part 1

had 9998 titles, 5 duplicates (none have comments)
Position    Const      Created
6405 tt0096373 2015-10-17
1841 tt0096373 2015-06-15
8141 tt0119545 2016-01-06
8099 tt0119545 2016-01-06
6397 tt0279693 2015-10-17
658 tt0279693 2015-06-15
8466 tt4090552 2016-01-09
8465 tt4090552 2016-01-09
9406 tt4669954 2017-01-02
9405 tt4669954 2017-01-02



If position is not important, these dupes can be removed from the title page (deselect and re-select that list). Since you have multiple lists with long names that are the same until the end, remember that the list of lists in that drop-down is in date modified order, and if this list wasn't first, it will be after the first deselect. If you decide to rename your list, beware that a comma in the name can prevent Export (I submitted a problem report, so maybe they'll fix it.) Right now, your comma is safely beyond the point where it would be included in the .csv name.


If position is important, and you want to delete one instead of the other, I have good news. Within Edit mode, it is possible to alter the URL to go directly to the page you need. Remember page 1 will hold titles 1-100, so title 6405 should be on page 65. Here would be your url:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074047442/edit?sort=list_order,asc&page=65



In case someone is reading this who wants to find duplicates in their own long list, here's what I did in Open Office Spreadsheet; Excel will be the same with one possible exception noted below:
  1. sort the whole sheet by the title ID
  2. insert a new column before col A
  3. in cell A2, enter the formula =IF(OR(C2=C3;C2=C1);"*****";"")
    1. in Excel each ; might need to be ,
    2. I used the OR to see both dupes after step 8
  4. copy cell A2
  5. highlight all the cells in column A that have title data in their row (I do this by ctrl-End to the bottom of the list, highlight the last col A cell, hold shift while pushing the scroll bar up to the top, and clicking on the cell A3)
  6. paste the clipboard to all those highlighted cells (you could paste to the whole column, but I've had trouble with that in the past).   //Rather than scrolling through the list, I want to bring the dupes to the top, so:
  7. highlight col A, copy col A, Paste Special (not just Paste) col A (text but not formulas)
  8. click on a cell in col A (very important!) to release the highlight, then sort Z to A 
You should see your dupes at the top of the list.


Although that process is faster than it looks, it might be faster to check for dupes before merging lists - if you remember do to it. (ATS, Include both lists.) BTW, I didn't use a spreadsheet to find dupes in my 1700+ title list; I described that above: Sorted both versions (ATS compact result and Edit mode of the list) with the same criteria, and both lists with 100 titles per page. Checked that first and last titles matched on page 1, etc. When I found a mismatch, looked at the middle title on both copies of that page, cut the bad half in half again, then matched one at a time. 
Photo of Keester

Keester

  • 208 Posts
  • 98 Reply Likes
I know very well how to find duplicates. Thank you for teaching my grandmother how to suck eggs.

My contention is that lists should be UNIQUE so as duplicates don't occur. Nothing in an entry in a title list can be different from a duplicate entry except comment. Director is always the same, URL is always the same, etc. If comment is the only thing that can be different why not merge them into one comment.
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 3883 Posts
  • 4423 Reply Likes
Poll-makers may want to separate the stats. In a sense, each vote is for a comment rather than a linkable entity.
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
In my recent example, I wanted to list the same movie twice (or more) because different clips with different actors were present in the mashup video, with several other clips from other movies in between. The list follows the flow of the video. Of the 82 clips, one film was had clips at positions 39 and 48, another at 6 and 49. The point of the list was to allow the viewer to watch the video, and with the list along side, see the names of the actors on screen. If both credits were compressed into a single entry in the table, that would not be nearly so useful.

Both Jeorj and Dan have mentioned polls. I've seen several polls that use the same movie more than once, but different scenes are up for a vote. Those have to be in the same list to be in the same poll, yet they need to be separate items, not 2 comments on the same entry.

I still haven't heard why you find duplicates offensive to your use of lists. You've successfully explained that only the comments can be different, and you seem indifferent to others uses for the feature that has existed for a while (forever?) Why does it matter that your list of 10,000 titles has 5 duplicates? Or is it another type of list you keep where this is a problem?
Photo of Robin Smidsrød

Robin Smidsrød

  • 1 Post
  • 5 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled RSS feed for watchlist is showing normal web-page content for watchlist instead o....

When I go to the page http://rss.imdb.com/user/ur5439845/watchlist I expect to see RSS/feed XML content, but I'm greeted with a normal web-page of my watchlist. I'm using this feed with another service, which is showing parse failures because it doesn't contain valid feed XML anymore.

Can you please fix this issue? I noticed it today, so it could be a regression from a recent software update of your system.

Kind regards,
Robin Smidsrød
Photo of Kevin Marshall

Kevin Marshall

  • 1 Post
  • 3 Reply Likes
Is the RSS feed issue being addressed?
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
Without compact mode its like writing a book but instead of now 2 or 3 paragraphs per page its like one sentence a page.  That's what its like for me without compact mode (250 titles a page).  Its extremely annoying.  I'd rather make my lists on Microsoft Word.  There was no reason to get rid of this feature, other than possibly money (which I don't see a reason for that).  I view/update my lists all the time in compact mode and find it very frustrating that it is gone now.

Can IMDB please at the very least make these lists available in compact mode only for the publisher of the lists?  Again its like writing a story but you have to keep flipping/scrolling up page after page to see what you wrote just a little while ago.  I would appreciate a response as I have been a long time IMDB user since the 90s.  Thank you we appreciate your work and hope you value our input.
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
If you need all the functionality of the old compact list (as do I), this suggestion won't help you. But if seeing the list compressed and taggable will help some situations (as it does for me), then use Advanced Title Search, or this URL replacing "watchlist" with your target list id (including lists not your own):
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?count=250&view=simple&lists=watchlist

Credit for this idea belongs to Dan Dassow!
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
Thanks for the suggestion but yeah unfortunately its not what I'm looking for.  I would really like the old format back.  To be honest I haven't even looked at my lists since the change has been made.  I'm probably just going to export it and do it all through Word like I used to.

I really hope to hear back from the IMDB staff to at least acknowledge or give my suggestion a thought.  Again would appreciate it if IMDB at least lets the publisher view their own lists in compact mode at least.  Editing mode isn't really much better.  I just want to see my list by title, year, votes and rating.  I don't need to see full descriptions, pictures or my comments because I know what they are already.
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
OK now I kinda see why.  There's a watch now button with the detailed and grid view.  But I don't see how they wouldn't be able to add that with the compact view.  Just add a little icon next to the title if they're so eager to make people watch on Amazon.  Like a watch now hyperlink next to the title.  Can you do this please IMDB?
Photo of Mort Potter

Mort Potter

  • 2 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
Who are these people that you, amazon.com and Netflix employ to "improve" your websites?  I've enjoyed imdb.com for 17 years.  It's always been a basic website.  Please leave it that way.  It doesn't need to look nicer.  It needs to be functional.
Photo of suasheva

suasheva

  • 20 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
not even look nicer after the update, they ruin everything.
Photo of SLions Cricket

SLions Cricket

  • 4 Posts
  • 45 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Using the IMDb list to add titles is a lot more troublesome now, especially addin....

I am sure that there has been plenty of criticism about some of the recent changes made to IMDb, something that is inevitable when such a large platform undergoes changes. I also understand that this one post alone will probably not bring forth the changes that I hope for but nevertheless, I'd like to list some issues I have been having with the site over the past couple of days. 

Firstly, I must say that I really love implementing the IMDb star rating and # of votes into both customized lists and episode lists as found for the TV shows. I love that interface and I think it works wonderfully. However, what I am not so much a fan of are some of the changes made to the list editing mode. I can no longer add a TV episode by pasting the URL of the episode into the 'Add a movie or TV show to this list'. That was a convenience I loved about adding episode titles onto IMDb and without that convenience, it's really no different to how Trakt.tv works with customized lists. Now I have to go through each title on its own separate page and add the episode from there. 

I also think the editing mode on IMDb is a lot more problematic now and found the earlier interface in-editing mode to be much clearer. This is clearly a less pressing issue for me and once again, I welcome the addition of the star rating with open arms. 

I also wish we had the 'list' mode (or whatever it was called) for reading a list. I'm not sure how commonly used it was by users but I personally loved it, especially when I wanted to go through a list at a quick pace. I also found it a much easier way to actually organize items within a list and I hate the fact that it's now gone. The list mode was something I also used when I wanted to browse custom lists for a TV show (say favourite episodes of [insert show]) without spoiling for myself episodes and/or pivotal moments as there was no thumbnail on the list mode. 

Anyways, I love some of the changes and don't love some of the others. I would hope that there's the possibility of at least restoring the list mode AND the ability to add TV episodes in editing mode by pasting the URLs. 
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
Yes I believe you're referring to compact mode and yes I agree with my post above.  IMDB wants users to click on the title that links to Amazon.  Which is fine but they can easily do that with compact mode as well by adding a watch now hyperlink.  Hope they reconsider bringing this back this mode.
Photo of Michael O'Connor

Michael O'Connor

  • 1 Post
  • 4 Reply Likes
Not being able to drag and drop is a terrible idea! I change the order of my lists frequently and the method of putting the order number in doesn't work. Please restore the drag and drop feature or I will no longer use the lst feature as it is useless to me without it.
Photo of Duane Goodwin

Duane Goodwin

  • 3 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Why remove a feature with no replacement?.

Why remove a feature with no replacement? The compact view was the only way I could tell the date of when I added a movie to my list. Now I can only sort by date added but no way for me to tell for example if I added it to the list more than 3 months ago or not. This is a feature I used weekly to help me sort my movie list. Another feature that would be nice is if I could see the Popularity Score on the preview screen instead of needing to click through on each movie. I don't keep movies in my library higher than a particualar score. Thank you. please add the date added or compact view back or something similar.
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
Hi Duane Goodwin,

Until we can convince the IMDb Technical staff to restore the compact view and/or to show the date added in the full view, there is a work around. You can export the list to a CSV (comma separated variable) and read the file back in via Excel or Open Office. "Created" is the date that an entry was added.

These are the data fields in the exported CSV file:
  • Position
  • Const
  • Created
  • Modified
  • Description
  • Title
  • URL
  • Title Type
  • IMDb Rating
  • Runtime (mins)
  • Year
  • Genres
  • Num Votes
  • Release Date
  • Directors
I fully agree this is much less convenient and a lot more work, but at least it is a work around.
(Edited)
Photo of Duane Goodwin

Duane Goodwin

  • 3 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
Thanks for the tip.  Not ideal but at least there's a workaround.
Photo of JonDoe

JonDoe

  • 6 Posts
  • 68 Reply Likes
I don't get it, why u removed the compact view? I used it for my watchlist and a personal list called "Upcoming movies", to have a fine and clean overview of the most important informations I needed to know. Now I have a bunch of useless infos like a poster, synopsis or crew and I need to scroll so many lines now that is insane.
If you believe people like this kind of view, its fine to add it, but why on earth do u remove importand stuff like the compact view for a list feature?
Photo of MM

MM

  • 10 Posts
  • 9 Reply Likes
Before the update, when you went to edit a list with episodes, it would show the name of the show as well as the title of the episode while you were editing it.  This was really convenient because I generally don't like putting two episodes from the same show too close together in my lists.  Now, we can only see the title of the episode so you don't necessarily know which show the episode is from while you're editing the list and it just makes the whole process more confusing and lengthy (e.g. if an episode just says "Pilot" it's very hard to figure out what show that's from).  Also, please strongly consider giving us back the ability to drag and drop.
Photo of Giorgos Kaparounakis

Giorgos Kaparounakis

  • 3 Posts
  • 2 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Can't edit watchlist.

After the latter changes, I can't edit my watchlist. I get an 500 error. The list is private and has 10000 titles. I can edit the rest of my lists but they have much less titles.
Photo of JonDoe

JonDoe

  • 6 Posts
  • 68 Reply Likes
One more question. Why can I sort lists in the edit page just by "list order" and "date added"? I regular move movies from a list called "Upcoming movies" to "Watchlist" if they have more than 1000 votes. This sorting was possible with the old (better!!!) list feature. Now its impossible to me to sort AND move movies from this list, so its more or less useless. Neither "list order" nor "date added" helps me, to move the movies with more than 1000 votes.

So please add more sorting options to the edit page.

Thank you.
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
This is a perfect application for Advanced Title Search, whether you choose Compact or Detailed output; tap on the Watchlist icon to the right of the title and the title is added to the Watchlist.
Photo of JonDoe

JonDoe

  • 6 Posts
  • 68 Reply Likes
I guess you not really got the point I was making. I was talking about moving movies from one list to another list.
For example, I have a custom list called "Upcoming Movies" where I put any upcoming movies I may want to watch, so I can keep track of them. In my Watchlist there are only released movies I really want to watch. From time to time I check the "Upcoming Movies" list, if any of them are released and how the user rating is. Then I decide what movies I want to watch, move them to my Watchlist and delete the rest.
This only works, if I can sort the edit Page of the Lists by "Number of Votes" or "IMDB Rating", otherwise I have to check the whole list of movies one by one, what is really anyoing and time-cosuming.
With the old design I was able to do all of this very easily.
(Edited)
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
@JonDoe

It's true that my suggestion doesn't completely satisfy your concerns, although you don't have to check your list one by one to determine if the title is ready to move; the List sort has a Number of Votes option. But yes, then you have to hunt for those titles within your list.

For the IMDb execs, let's point out that even after using ATS to find and copy titles to the Watchlist, there is NO way to sort the ATS list in one of the ways that Edit mode sorts the origin list (List Order, Date Added) to give Position within the list. And when you sort the list outside of Edit mode, it renumbers everything, so you still don't know the position in order to remove it. So not only do you have to remove the titles by hand, but you have no way of knowing where they are in the original list.

I added your suggestion (merged with Pete's suggestion below) to the running lists I'm keeping of Bugs and of Suggestions as 
16. Add the Refine sort options to Edit mode to facilitate Move To selection and List Order changes.
just above this comment: http://email.getsatisfaction.com/wf/click?upn=Gf15zKkQ5xF-2FJchx2RlboEZCOWJo71NP9bexmc7o9m-2Bb0WYK-2...

The Official Reps may be ignoring those lists, but I want to see how things develop with this feature of IMDb.
(Edited)
Photo of Pete

Pete

  • 49 Posts
  • 35 Reply Likes
I agree with JonDoe regarding sorting lists.

When in EDIT mode, please allow sort function by ALPHABETICAL. This is currently available only when in NON-EDIT mode (see below).

It would save me lots of time to edit movies in my list if I could search for them in alphabetical order
Photo of Angelo Pilla

Angelo Pilla

  • 102 Posts
  • 70 Reply Likes
I have a list of 1338 movies. I wanted to exclude one of these movies and I couldn't find it, because there is no more the basic ALPHABETICAL order in the edit mode. I can't believe in how many wrong things you guys did with these changes. It's really incredible. Not even the correct IMDb rating order we can see in the lists anymore. It's just a blending of rating and popularity that misleads people and you don't even care to warn them. Please, please, please. Bring back the old lists system, where we can FIND a movie and where we can put the lists in a correct rating order. 
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
Hi Angelo Pilla,

Here is a work around until the IMDb Technical Staff restores the ability to sort lists by other than alphabetical order. Admittedly, this is not as convenient as being able to do this on the list page.

You can sort your list various ways using the Advanced Title Search.

1. From the drop down menu next to the search box, select Advanced Search.

2. On the Advanced Search select Advanced Title Search.

3. Under Lists Include: select one of your title lists.

4. Under Display Options, you can choose:
4a. Detailed or Compact
4b. 50 or 100 titles per page for Detailed, 100 or 250 title per page for Compact.
4c. Sorted by


5. Click the yellow Search button.

For example, this is one of my title lists:
Lowest Rated Titles In Your "305 Films Qualified for Oscars in 2015" List
http://www.imdb.com/search/title?lists=ls031350281&sort=user_rating,asc&view=simple
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
Angelo Pilla

If you want to remove one title from a list, just go to the title page, hover over the + for Watchlist, and select the list from which you want to delete the title.

Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
@Angelo Pilla
Separate issue: sort by ratings. I was able to duplicate what you're reporting. I happen to have 100 titles in one of my lists that all have IMDb average rating of "6.9", and when I have ATS sort by User/IMDb Rating, I get the same sequence as when I ask for Popularity sort.

When I clicked the reverse order link on User Rating, it had no effect. (Reversing Popularity works.)

Then I checked to see if sort by UR is just dead in ATS, and expanded to 6.8-6.9, and it managed to separate the 6.8's from the 6.9's, but used popularity within those.

Using the Refine and Sort options on the List page itself gave the same results.

I did include your report as #9 on the Bug list I set up 3 days ago above this comment:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/update-to-list-pages?utm_source=notification&utm_medium=...

Of course, IMDb is likely ignoring that list, and maybe all the posts to this thread by now.
Photo of Pete

Pete

  • 49 Posts
  • 35 Reply Likes
Hi Angelo Pilla,

The main flaw in this workaround is that you cannot move a movie from one list to another list. There is no selection box to click, as there is in the current list Edit mode.

So although I am able to find a particular movie in one of my lists, I'm not able to move it... say, from "2017" to "Saw 2017."

In other words, a step in the right direction, but still not a satisfactory workaround. The best solution would be: When in EDIT mode, allow sort function by ALPHABETICAL.
Photo of Martin Murphy

Martin Murphy

  • 1 Post
  • 1 Reply Like
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Watchlist.

Currently 8709 in my watch list, 71 not rated. Advanced search a faff and doesn't give me same options I previously had.
This is a fantastic website despite recent sell out to advertising and now invasive selling in how we use our own watch lists.
By all means add 'where to watch' to please don't take away 'you and your list' options.
Thanks.

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: I can't sort my watchlist by movies I haven't rated yet.
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
Color formatting is particularly useful for the Christmas holidays. This poll suggestion list effectively makes use of the colors green and red.
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls066275752/mediaviewer/rm2050926080


Unfortunately, if the author were to edit this list, the color formatting will disappear.
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
I've been testing text formatting and determined the color will not disappear in the media viewer. I will post more information later.
Photo of nonduc nonduc

nonduc nonduc

  • 17 Posts
  • 15 Reply Likes
Two questions. (And complains.)

1. Are the video lists deprecated now? I can not create a new list for videos--there's no option on list creation page, only for titles, persons, and images.

2. What the hell the new category "Pending Lists" means? Who is doing this "pending"? I'm not. I started only public or private listings, no pending listings at all, but some of my public lists are not public but "pending".
(Edited)
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
#2. I've seen Pending when I didn't do the Save list step somehow. I just edit the list and Save it, and Pending goes away.

I just made it happen when I created a title list, then left the page without hitting Done first.
Photo of nonduc nonduc

nonduc nonduc

  • 17 Posts
  • 15 Reply Likes
Thank you, bderoes! DONE button was ignored by me. But it works for "publicing" the public list as public. :) 

But what about video lists? Can you help with them, please?
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
Didn't even realize there were video lists before you posted y'day. Maybe try to create an Image list and populate it with videos?
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
IMDb staff have put together video lists, most notably for videos related to San Diego Comic Con. I tried without success to create video lists prior to IMDb's update to list functionality.
Photo of Jeorj Euler

Jeorj Euler

  • 3883 Posts
  • 4423 Reply Likes
Video lists will probably remain a staff-only thing until the developers figure out how to make more of us happy again.
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
OK here's one more suggestion if IMDB could be so inclined to at least address no compact view...  if they could at least increase the edit mode from 100 titles per page to 250 per page?  Would that be too much to ask?

Don't get me wrong I still would really like the compact mode back and it makes me very frustrated that its gone.  But can someone at least meet us half way on this?
(Edited)
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
I would argue AGAINST having 250 titles on the Edit page. It's already cumbersome to get to the navigation and copy/move etc links on bottom and top of a list page. If the page had more entries, it would be worse, even if we had duplicate links on top and bottom of the page. Because edit mode has too many lines per entry.

I understand the advantage of finding titles to create a move or copy list, but it would hurt more than it would help IMO.

I can only hope IMDb is going to add Sort and Refine features within Edit mode. I'm certainly going to procrastinate breaking apart my 577 title list into Features and Shorts for a while, in the hope they're secretly working on just such enhancements, Had I known this Update to the List system was coming, and what we were losing, when I assembled those 577 titles 1 week ago, I would have done it differently.

Now 'tis better to create short lists that can be merged than to create long lists that need disaggregating.
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
If anything it would be easier finding entries on one page rather than multiple.  I mean what if it was only 10 titles per page?  Would that be less cumbersome too?

But in any case at least give us the compact mode 250 titles per page.  More viewing options not less.  I just don't get it.
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
Have you done much editing with the new Update, scrolling back and forth among the 100 entries? And you want it to be 2.5 times longer?

What would be the advantage of having more titles on the page at once? You must have a specific situation in mind. And do you have a monitor in Portrait orientation?
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
I don't see the advantage in less titles per page in edit mode.  What if they decreased it to 10 or 5 titles per page and say if you have a list of over 500 titles...  how would that be easier to edit?  To a lesser extent the same situation with 100 instead of 250.

Again in any case we wouldn't be having this discussion if they didn't take away compact mode (250 titles per page).  Which they should bring back.

I don't understand how less options to customize the appearance of a user's personal list is better.
(Edited)
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
Oh, if we're talking about Options, so that I can have only 100 titles when I'm doing X kind of editing, and 250 when I doing Y, and I can select them according to my needs, then that would be superb.

But the original idea was expressed as
"OK here's one more suggestion if IMDB could be so inclined to at least address no compact view...  if they could at least increase the edit mode from 100 titles per page to 250 per page?"
Since we DON'T have compact mode in that scenario (and I would vote FOR having compact mode, as would the author, it seems), then each title consumes a minimum of 4 lines without comments (contrasted with 2 in Compact mode), and more depending on the length of the comment (which Compact mode only displayed as a popup).  With the existing 100 titles, I'm finding that it takes a LOT of laborious scrolling to get from near the top of the list to near the bottom, even when I use a nifty trackpad that scrolls like a phone/tablet. 

True compact mode with 250 titles on a page: Yes.
New Edit mode with 250 titles on a page: Yikes.
Photo of suasheva

suasheva

  • 20 Posts
  • 4 Reply Likes
Can U bring back starmeter on list? pls?
Photo of Alfredo Li Fonti

Alfredo Li Fonti

  • 4 Posts
  • 7 Reply Likes
Its terrible. I can't reorder by list by dragging anymore.
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
Given all the strong feelings about the loss of Compact list functionality for selecting and copy/moving titles to other lists, I'm surprised we have only 4 votes for the Idea linked here:
Add more sortings to list edit-mode
 
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
It's now 5.
Photo of Chris

Chris

  • 38 Posts
  • 88 Reply Likes
Agree and no way anybody is going to look at a list more than 50 or 100 titles long that's not in compact mode (250 titles per page).  IMDB needs to address this asap.  I'm about to cancel my Prime membership just because they're trying to cater to Amazon.

I keep checking my lists only to see if they're adding back the compact feature but of course nothing and no response from the IMDB staff regarding this.  I guess eventually they'll take away all features except you'll only get to place titles you can order from Amazon.

btw I wasn't upset they took away the message boards but I definitely see why people would be.  Now the review section has been taken over by those types of posts and eventually IMDB will take away that feature as well.  Eventually there won't be any more user accounts just a front for Amazon and Hollywood studios.  Its sad the way this site is trending.
Photo of Janko Gašpar

Janko Gašpar

  • 1 Post
  • 5 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Updating lists.

For 5 years now I've been making the list of movies I saw, only to find out today that the list-creating procedure is now quite different, and that you can change the position of the movie on the list only by typing the number of the position you want your movie to be on, not by moving it with click-and-drag. While that change back anytime soon now?
Bye, Janko
Photo of RbDeraj

RbDeraj

  • 269 Posts
  • 135 Reply Likes
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Drag/Order Titles in List.

I may be way behind (haven't made a list in a while), but is there a way to drag titles to change the order in a list? Or is it now just altered by the numbers next to each title?

Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
RbDeraj,

Currently, lists can only be re-order using the numbers next to the items in the list.

Drag and drop is currently not available. Elsewhere in this thread, the IMDb Staff stated there are technical reasons why drag and drop is difficult to implement with their new architecture. I'm hoping that the IMDb Technical Staff find a solution that will allow drag and drop.
Photo of Justin

Justin

  • 5 Posts
  • 3 Reply Likes
I can't even re-order using the numbers anymore. A week ago that is what it was, but now I can't re-order at all. 
Photo of bderoes

bderoes, Champion

  • 838 Posts
  • 980 Reply Likes
I just Edited my list of 1781 titles, and moved the last entry to position 1681. HOWEVER, it did NOTHING if I left the comma in the number. It ONLY moved when I deleted the comma.
Photo of Josh Lech

Josh Lech

  • 2 Posts
  • 8 Reply Likes
Please revert back to the original setting. I can't edit the list the usual way I could.
Photo of Niall Hassett

Niall Hassett

  • 21 Posts
  • 20 Reply Likes
Is there anyway we can have a choice like youtube with the old setting. Whether we want it or not. Would be so much easier
Photo of Abhay Bhatt

Abhay Bhatt

  • 84 Posts
  • 50 Reply Likes
I think it's crucial that you restore the URL entering/accepting option while adding any name or title to the list. Many times, you are able to search some obscure name/title on the IMDb main search or advanced search but NOT on the search provided on the List edit page. 

Now, I have read somewhere that you can enter title id in place of URL but this has two problems:-

  1. What about names(actors/actresses)?
  2. No one will have any idea that this is the case until and unless you mention this explicitly beside the search bar for adding items in the list.
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
Abhay Bhatt,

The title ID works for title lists and the name ID works for people list. Unfortunately, if these are embedded in a link, IMDb will no longer find the title or person. This is lost functionality. Prior to the update, one could use the full URL (link).
Photo of Abhay Bhatt

Abhay Bhatt

  • 84 Posts
  • 50 Reply Likes
Pasting URL was simpler and easy, pasting name/title id is more inconvenient and difficult. Nevertheless, they should mention this fact explicitly like 'Enter the name or name id here' or 'Enter the title or title id here'. Even then, for some, it will still be a problem as they don't know how to find the title/name id!
Photo of Dan Dassow

Dan Dassow, Champion

  • 9962 Posts
  • 8722 Reply Likes
Being able to paste the link and/or the title or name ID has been an undocumented feature. A few of us discovered that this worked and publicized it both on Get Satisfaction and on the retire IMDb Message Boards.