Too strong a warning - can you avoid saying "rejected"?

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I have noticed that when one starts to submit a new film or television title to the database, one will get a "red" warning very early in the process, as seen below:



However, the only problem is that one hasn't yet selected the sub-type -- which is certainly necessary, but hadn't been asked for previously. Some contributors have indicated on this board that they have been confused to see that their title "has been rejected", when in reality they just needed to select one of the sub-type options.

I suggest that this warning be revised, perhaps to make it a "yellow" warning instead of a "red" warning, and characterizing the situation as something other than a rejection.
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This has been previously addressed, and I think the solution would be give the option of the sub-type first in the starting form itself. I mean, when a user starts adding a title, he has to add the following details in the first form:
1. Title
2. Type
3. Sub-type
4. Status: 
5. Year, and
6. I am...

This would eradicate any confusions caused due to that red rejection ping-back.
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The reason they don't do this is because the various Types have different Sub-types:

Film and Made for Video have feature length and short subject;
Made for TV has TV-series, TV mini-series, TV movie, TV special and unaired TV pilot;
Video Game has no Sub-type.

I can see no way to show this conveniently on a single screen.
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Oh, didn't know that. I have never added a TV or a Video Game. So, yeah, it would be hard to add all on a single screen. Best solution would be to continue with how it pings back with the sub-type, only showing it a yellow, mild screen that IMDb employs for warnings...
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... various Types have different Sub-types ...
... I can see no way to show this conveniently on a single screen.
Perhaps one possible way would be to "reveal" the Sub-type options
immediately after the user chooses the primary Type:

Initially, before the user clicks a Type, the Sub-types area would not be displayed.   When the user clicks a Type button (such as "Made for TV" for example), then the relevant Sub-type options could immediately appear (without having to refresh the entire page).  If the user then decides to click a different Type instead, then again the display would immediately update to show the appropriate Sub-types.  I believe this behavior would be reasonably easy to implement (using common techniques that are well-known to web developers).
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I'm bumping this thread.
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I'm bumping this thread.
OK, but remember what Col wrote a month ago in another thread:  "... Please do not bump threads here."  (That was in response to a bumped support request, not an "idea" thread. Should the "please do not bump" advice apply to all types of threads, even Idea threads?)

The intended benefit of an occasional bump may be to help keep the user-to-user conversation stimulated.  That's understandable.

But a bump does not add any useful content to the discussion.  It merely pushes the thread to the top of the board.  That is arguably a "greedy" thing to do, not fair to other discussions that don't deserve to be upstaged in this way.

So, before bumping, keep in mind that you are not adding useful content, but merely demanding renewed attention for earlier content because you think it deserves to be specially spotlighted.
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I think gromit's probably got a handle on things.

While what you're saying is generally right, the site (IMDb) considers 'bumping' as 'flooding.'

I don't think one bump in two weeks time could be described as "flooding the board with the same message."
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I don't think one bump in two weeks time could be described as "flooding the board with the same message."
Fair point, but here's the rest of what Col wrote in an earlier thread:
When you reply to the message, you are moving your request to the back of the line, not the front, sorry.  Please do not bump threads here.
Apparently there was only one "bump" in that thread
when Col wrote that reply.
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Right.  I believe that unacknowledged problems or questions with no responses are probably seen (or looked for) first by a staffer. 

That OP was acting on advice to do so (I'd never heard any mention of what Col described before) because he was having dozens (probably even hundreds) of problems getting submissions accepted, even with evidence provided (notice all the 'related discussions' when you visit that thread).  So, he'd been bumping many of the threads, many times over weeks as he'd been skipped over repeatedly when he simply posted without bumping.  I think being skipped over and ignored (especially someone who lists not only all his own credits but those of his co-workers, too) was more of a problem than "flooding the board," though that's the first I've heard about it going to the bottom of the pile.  I've only seen that warning once...and I've probably seen most of the 27,000 conversations here.  I just don't think that a casual bump here has any impact on the function of the board and the "bottom of the pile" issue doesn't apply since they will look at "idea" threads based on the popularity (or "me too" votes).
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The new title form has been fixed so that it does not give a rejection message when the Sub-type has not been selected yet.

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