Philip Van Zandt is tagged to the image, and I assume that is correct. I'm hoping that someone with better eyes might be able to tell me which one he is.
The reason I ask is because in the credits it says his scenes were deleted, but if he is in this photo not all were. I can confirm that scene and another the same 3 characters are present in the movie. I'd like to update the credits.
In case it helps, here is another image from a different scene with those 3.
Incidentally, the tagged image is not specifically in the version I watched. The overall scene is, but the specific image/frame is not.
I believe he is the guy on the left in the image above (and on the right in the tagged image).
I remember watching all these tarzan movies as a kid. Don't recall if it was Sat or Sun morn they were played, but whichever it was, I watched quite a few.
Looking at the google image array, this seems a good representation, but year unspecified:
To me, the man you're thinking is Van Zandt looks older than VZ's age (b. 1904, film 1943) at the time, and it doesn't look like makeup makes those cheeks hollowed, or the distance between brow and eye so much more.
Here's one from '58 (Fifi, per the google caption, the year VZ died):
I don't think he's in either image.
And given that "Nancy Kelly" is tagged for the linked image, the credibility of the tags is questionable.
The one on the right has a similar nose, but the cheekbones are wrong.
The dead giveaway is the bulbous tip of the nose. The man in the middle has this. The other two are pointy! Also the left eyebrow is different from the right. It is present in both pictures! It is probably an unconscious mannerism when acting.. This Eyebrow thing may be unique to Phillip Van Zandt.
This is in the picture posted above (Center)
In the linked picture he is the one Johnny Weissmuller has by the collar.
The other 2 in the picture are probably dayplayers
Unfortunately this is one of those movies where only the actors' names are given but nothing with the characters' names matched to the actors.
The big guy in the image that id'ed as Frank Faylen is based upon his character's name and the imdb current credits. It possibly might not be him. (Hope that makes sense. Just in case, I know the character's name is Achmed Nogosh Segali from dialog. The other two guys aren't given names.)
Look at this picture.
I think this is Philip Van Zandt.
Right now this actor is in the credits as John Dehner.
and I don't think it is him.
This is the oldest pic I can find of him that's clear. Unfort it's 7 years later.
Here's another from over a decade later.
I've rescaned the movie and don't see anyone that I recognize visually or auditorily as Dehner. I'll rescan/watch it again. The actor playing Prince Ameer to me doesn't sound like Dehner at all. His voice from the work I recall is somewhat deep, rough, and gravelly but that's from stuff starting in the mid-60s. I believe I have the Maverick's he was in so that might help and gets me about a decade earlier.
(NB: I've seen the same Dehner shot reversed, so don't count on comparing left sides of the face.)
I wanted a sans-mustache shot because the Ameer 'stache is very unlike Dehner's real one later in life.
I don't think Ameer was Dehner based on this photo. But I'm almost interested to watch that Tarzan film. The problem: Dehner's presence is uncredited, so it might not be him at all. (I do know Dehner's name & face from my media consumption, not just photos.) He's also uncredited in Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo ('44), but I don't find any images of him in that film via google, and watching it could be a looking for a needle in a barracks.
Here's a photo of Dehner, supposedly in a '46 film where he's credited, looking very much like the Dehner I know. So he didn't change a lot since the 40s.
Here's where you can watch Dehner in this '46 film:
I also watched some of the Tarzan film in question (dubbed in Hungarian(?)), and Prince Ameer doesn't look or move enough like Dehner for me.
Frank Faylen operated the saw in the truncated (pun) magic trick, and brought his comic chops. It was definitely Faylen, even without hearing his voice. I didn't recognize either of the others as Van Zandt, and since the 3 men in the tagged photo rm2043051264 also appear in the magic act (sawing the trunk) scene, I'm inclined to believe Van Zandt is not in the photo. But what if he's really the man with the eyepatch? (I don't think so; I'm just speculating.) Is it worth requesting a deletion of the tag?
Because Van Zandt is listed as "scenes deleted", I'm going to turn off the Hungarian Tarzan (although the horse is cute). Otto Kruger without his charming audible sneer is too weird.
Found the NYT article, but only the digitized version, which does not mention Van Zandt. Might be able to see the print if you subscribe.
It's a small world. Of all people, one would think that Tarzan, yodeling happily in his remote, jungle Utopia, would be least influenced by the war. But no. Maureen O'Sullivan, his erstwhile spouse by film contract at least, seems to be detained in England because of war conditions. At her request in "Tarzan's Desert Mystery," now at the Globe, her monosyllabic husband goes to a malarial quarter of the jungle in search of "fever medicine" to aid soldiers stricken in Burma. And on the way across the desert Tarzan runs afoul a pair of scheming Nazis, not to mention a likable wild horse, a stranded lady magician and assorted bedouins. The desert and the swampy jungle—the latter infested by prehistoric monsters—are as close as adjoining rooms in this fabulous adventure. Watching "Tarzan's Desert Mystery," one can almost believe himself back in the declining heydey of Pearl White and "The Perils of Pauline."But perhaps the small fry at least will be amused by people that behave like monkeys, and monkeys that behave like people. They should not question the feasibility of Tarzan's trek, clad in no more than a breechclout, across the burning desert sands. They should hardly be surprised that Tarzan should find at the first oasis a lady magician, who, it appears, is just making a little side jaunt after a North African USO tour. Nor, having accepted matters thus far, should they look askance when the Nazi agents pursuing Tarzan stumble into the jungle, where they are successively dispatched by angry lions and spiders as big as trucks. That sequence in which the luckless Nazi is crunched by the big spider should have the children screaming in their sleep for months to come—it's a curious episode to include in a children's movie. Or are the little wretches really so bloodthirsty?For the information of Miss O'Sullivan, detained in London, and for the older custodians of our morals, Tarzan remains strictly monogamous, despite the intrusion of the lady magician. Tarzan, that is, Johnny Weissmuller, didn't even so much as wink at Nancy Kelly.
At the Globe
TARZAN'S DESERT MYSTERY, screen play by Edward T. Lowe; from a story by Carroll Young; based on the characters created by Edgar Rice Burroughs; directed by William Thiele; produced by Sol Lesser for RKO Radio Pictures.Tarzan . . . . . Johnny WeissmullerBoy . . . . . Johnny SheffieldConnie Bryce . . . . . Nancy KellyHendrix . . . . . Otto KrugerKarl . . . . . Joe SawyerPrince Selim . . . . . Robert LoweryA version of this article appears in print on Dec. 26, 1943 of the National edition with the headline: THE SCREEN; At the Globe.
The Variety review provides even less info, at least as presented on their website (and they posted it to the wrong year):
HOME FILM REVIEWS DECEMBER 31, 1942 11:00PM PT
Tarzan’s Desert Mystery
Tarzan's Desert Mystery doesn't miss a thing with its quota of Nazi agents and gruesome animals, plus the usual Tarzan jungle scenes.
By VARIETY STAFF
With: Johnny Weissmuller Nancy Kelly Johnny Sheffield Otto Kruger Joe Sawyer Lloyd Corrigan
Tarzan’s Desert Mystery doesn’t miss a thing with its quota of Nazi agents and gruesome animals, plus the usual Tarzan jungle scenes.
Picture [from a screen story by Carroll Young] opens with Tarzan (Johnny Weissmuller), Boy (Johnny Sheffield) and the chimp Cheta setting out across a desert to find a cure-all herb ordered by Mrs Tarzan in London. On the way they run into Connie Bryce (Nancy Kelly), an American vaude performer who is on her way to warn a local sheik that Hendrix (Otto Kruger) and Karl (Joe Sawyer) are a couple of Nazi agents trying to stir up trouble. Things look tough for Tarzan and his crew when he is accused of stealing a stallion intended for the Sheik, and Connie is framed on a murder charge and sentenced to be hanged.
Kelly turns in a workmanlike performance as an American magician. Weissmuller, young Sheffield and Cheta are per usual. Kruger just dosen’t belong as the Nazi. Film is nicely paced and photography highly effective.
So the print media references from TCM are unhelpful regarding Van Zandt.
I am watching this as we speak. He is most definitely the man in the center of the pic way up top. Also the Ameer is misspelled and is not a prince. He is referred to as Sheik Amir. Obviously someone added this that had no clue how to spell Amir.
This is an "In" joke reference to Van Zandt's many appearances on the 3 Stooges Shorts!
Right now I'm not 100% sure what's the right thing to do/correct. I think I have the other Tarzan film that VZ is credited in which would give a better contemporaneous pic.
And I need to absorb quite a bit because besides VZ I think it's fairly obvious that Dehner is not the character he's currently credited as.
So I'll be back as Arnie would say once I can dig out a few more things.
BTW the video I've got posted I'll be taking down later today as even though only 116 secs, I don't like posting copyrighted vids unless it's for a short time for a purpose.
Thanks all again.
So I think it's pretty likely this is Van Zandt and that he was Kushmet, although I have to be honest that I don't see a great likeness. So that resolves one character and I've submitted the correction.
I still think Dehner is wrong but I'd really like to know who it actually is.