Star Wars Rebels season 1 is totally wrong

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The season lineup for season 1 is out of sequence and missing episodes.   It should follow this matrix:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_Rebels_episodes#Season_1_(2014%E2%80%9315)

Not sure who I would contact to correct this
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Is this about the four shorts which aired before the show's first full season? 

If this is what you're referring to, those four titles are listed as unknown episodes. URL: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2930604/episodes?season=-1

Unfortunately, due to IMDb's system, it is not possible to add more than one preview episode (#1.0) to a series page. To get around this, contributors have submitted the episodes without episode numbers but with release dates. 

Can you provide some specifics so a contributor or an IMDb representative can review the series pages and respond? Thanks for the report.
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No, it's exactly as I say in the post.  on IMDB episode 12 is missing entirely and just off the top of my head, Empire Day is episode 8.  Most of the episodes are miss-numbered.  Compare the link I provided with what's on IMDB.
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Pay closer attention to the two lists. They are identical. The only difference is that on Wikipedia, "Spark of Rebellion" is listed as two episodes where IMDb considers it one episode as it the original airing was one continuous episode.

The only problem is episodes 13-15 which should be episodes 12-14. I've submitted corrections for those episode numbers.
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There are 15 total episodes.  Why would  IMDB think part 1 and part2 are one episode.  It doesn't do that for anything else.  And there's clearly a different description for part 2 than part 1 even though it is a continuation.  Even the DVDs list it as 15 episodes. 

I do appreciate you helping here.  I love IMDB and use it all the time.  This is the first time I've seen this.  There are 15 separate videos on the season 1 DVDs.

Update: I checked and it appears to list them on the DVD as 14 episodes.  I wonder why when I ripped them it came out to 15.  So I have a part 1 and part 2.  I guess I have to combine them to line up with IMDB properly.
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Actually, IMDB does exactly that all the time. Any time that a show is initially aired as a single episode without interruption, even if it is later showed as too episodes, it is one episode. It's in the guide. I don't even think this is the only case of this happening in Star wars Rebel.

Episode parts: Some programs air two-part episodes from time to time. If the two parts are clearly separated (separate titles or a separate title card), then they should be entered as two separate episodes (with "Part 1/Part 2" on the end of the title if they don't have unique titles). If they are run together as one long episode on original airing (with one set of credits), then they should be treated as a single episode, even if they are separated in reruns, syndication, or other later airings. 

https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/episode-guidelines/GDF7HR6CCCBKU3CP?ref_=helpms_helpart_inline#
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Jon, I can confirm what Adrian says is fact.
Many times, shows will have season opening or season closing two part episodes. IMDb has always considered them as one. Even if it happens during the middle of a season they are still considered one.
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ok somehow I got sidetracked.  TVDB had this wrong and but differently.   So if you look at the link I provided and start from episode 4, the titles are not correct.  IMDB actually does show part 1 and part 2 (episodes 1 and 2) the way I thought it should.  The problem is from 4 forward.

Here is another source:
https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Rebels_episode_list

It also lists 15 episodes.

And another:
http://www.ssonlineuniverse.net/starwars/episodeguides/swrebelsepisodeguide.shtml

There really is 15 episodes :)
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It's listed so many places as 15 episodes and you're trying to make IMDB 14?  I don't understand why.  But, lets just say, for now, that the first 3 episodes jibe with the rest of the world (which they do), then the fourth one should be "Fighter Flight" which it isn't.    In fact "Fighter Flight" is missing from IMDB entirely.  Maybe putting that in as episode 4 will straighten the whole thing out.

Bottom line, that episode is missing.  I guess I should have just said that form the beginning.  I didn't debug it until now.
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Yes, it appears "Fighter Flight" is missing. IMDb does not care (and neither should anyone else) how other people list it. In fact, almost every other place lists it as a single episode but with two numbers (which is equally ridiculous). The first two episodes need to be combined into a single episode and that would make re-ordering easier.

This may be easier if an IMDb employee does it.
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So I wonder how we can get Fighter Flight into slot 4.  Is there someone I should email directly or report an problem or something?
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IMDb employees read and support this forum, though support has been a bit slow lately. There's no need to email anyone. Most data is crowd sourced entered by people like me. 

My library system has the DVDs. I'll try and grab it and get it fixed this week. I'm reticent to merge episode 1 & 2 until I see how it is presented on the DVD and then I need it to watch episode 4. I watched this show when it aired and I wonder if someone screwed this up. I don't remember it being wrong and I would have noticed a missing episode. (I have my ratings downloaded as an Excel spreadsheet. I don't see either Sparks of Rebellion or Fighter Flight in the spreadsheet and I definitely would have voted for them. This means, something has changed since 2014.)
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Perfect.  Thanks!  Looking forward to seeing it fixed.  My real problem is that I periodically scrape my library and it keeps messing up this show.  Thanks again!
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Well, IMDb declined reordering the upper episodes to remove the gap at episode 12, so I'm doubtful that they will accept any other changes to order. I guess we will have to wait for an employee to step in.
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I have to think that they would put the missing episode in.   Its a blatent error and you have the solution.  I posted another topic in this forum that just lays out the problem and doesn't talk about renumbering or anything.  Hopefully they will look into it or perhaps you could email them about this.  I would assume the would want there database to be complete.
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I'm picking up the DVDs today. I just submitted a merge for the two halves of Spark of Rebellion. It will probably get denied despite giving supporting evidence that it aired as one episode. I'm pretty sure at the time it wasn't even considered as part of the show but as a pilot and was originally number 1.0 as a single episode. Part 1 has the correct air date. It originally aired on WatchDisneyXd.com (now just DisneyNow.com) on September 26, 2014 and didn't air on Disney XD until Oct 3, 2014 which is the date on the second part.
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Every season has 1 or 2 2-part episodes and IMDB lists them all individually (as I would expect).  MY gripe is the missing episode 4 in season 1.
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It would depend on how they aired whether they are listed as 1 or 2 episodes. At one point, these were all right but have since changed. Once the 2 episodes are merged, it makes it easier to add episode 4 (which will actually be 3, I think).

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