Recognize Daytime Emmys and Primetime Emmys equally.

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Currently, on pages where the person (or show) has won (or been nominated for) a Primetime Emmy, it appears in their Awards section as: 

    "Won X Primetime Emmys" (On a computer) 
or 
    "Won X Emmys" (On a mobile device, it seems like the "Primetime" is omitted) 
or even 
    "Emmy winner for Outstanding xxxxxxxxxxx" (On a mobile device if a person has only one one Primetime Emmy, again omitting "Primetime") 

But, currently, we're only doing that for PRIMETIME Emmys.  This request/suggestion is that we ALSO recognize DAYTIME Emmys in the same fashion.  

The only difference between the Primetime Emmys and the Daytime Emmys is the time of day that the show "premiered" in.  And, as we move more into the age of streaming media, many of the shows are opting to be considered for Daytime Emmys instead of Primetime Emmys. 

So, please make sure to recognize both Primetime Emmys and Daytime Emmys in the same, equal manner. 

(One additional thing to understand regarding Emmy awards is that, in addition to the Primetime Emmys and Daytime Emmys, there are also regional (or local) Emmys.  (They have these for News, Sports, etc.)  These are, by definition, not as major.  And, even the Emmy statue has a smaller base to signify as such.  (The Primetime Emmys and Daytime Emmys have the exact same award statue, awarded by The Television Academy and the National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, respectively.)  So, there is no need to classify regional/local Emmys on the same level of recognition as the Primetime and Daytime Emmys.) 

p.s. - One particular example we wanted to share that illustrates the problem we're currently seeing was an instance we saw where a person has WON a Daytime Emmy and had been NOMINATED for three Primetime Emmys.  Even though this person is an Emmy Winner, their profile has their award section as: "Nominated for 3 Primetime Emmys.  Another 1 win."  This should read something to the effect of, "Won 1 Emmy.  Another 3 nominations."
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Hi Marcus -

For further context, can you post the link to the name page for the individual you referenced who Won a Daytime Emmy and was nominated for three Primetime Emmy's?
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Hi Michelle!

Of course.  Here's one of the entries we found that illustrates this:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0581452/



Even though he's an Emmy Winner, we're highlighting that he's been Nominated for 3 Primetime Emmys and you have to click on "See more awards" to see that he won a Daytime Emmy.

And, what's WORSE is that on mobile devices, we omit "Primetime" and it reads as though he hasn't won an Emmy at all (and has merely been nominated for 3 Emmys and won some other award):



In our estimation, we should (rightfully) classify Daytime Emmys and Primetime Emmys equally.  And, on the profile page, we would treat it on a computer like we do on mobile devices and omit "Daytime" or "Primetime".  So, in this gentleman's instance, it would simply say "Won 1 Emmy.  Another 3 nominations" on a computer.

And, on a mobile device, since he's only won one Emmy, it would list the specifics of that win, like it's shown here on this Primetime Emmy winning woman's page:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0553195/



So, ideally, Allen Merriweather's profile on a mobile device would read:

Award Winning
Emmy winner for Outstanding Achievement in Technical Direction/Electronic Camera/Video Control
Another 3 nominations

Please let me know if it would be helpful to provide further examples that illustrate the issue here.  And, thanks very much for taking this into consideration.  
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Hi Marcus -

Thanks for posting the additional information and screen grabs.

I was unable to replicate the IMDbPro App display as I am seeing the following on the ios app ("Nominated for 3 Primetime Emmy Awards. Another 1 win"):




Can you confirm what mobile device and operating system you have?

Concerning the display on the site, from my understanding this is automatic based on a weighted internal algorithm (such as weighted events and Wins over nominations), so Primetime Emmys would have a higher weight than Daytime Emmys.  Since the display is by design we won;t be able to manually make the change, but I have reached out to the applicable team to clarify our logic and bring visibility to the change you requested (to display a Win instead of a Nomination).  I will post any additional information and/or updates here from the team as soon as I receive them.
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Hi Michelle!

The screen grabs we posted above are from the IMDb app, not the IMDbPro app.  (They were taken with an iPhone X with the most current iOS.)  We think you'll see the same things we saw if you look in the regular IMDb app.  (And, the IMDb.com website.)

And, your last paragraph is PRECISELY the thing we're trying to correct.  The Daytime Emmys and Primetime Emmys should be weighted equally.  They are both exactly the same award.  (Again, the only difference in the awards is the time of day where the show "premiered".  And, more and more streaming shows are opting to be classified as Daytime entries, since there is no "time" of when a streaming show "airs".)  

To be more precise, we should be recognizing Daytime Emmy nominations/wins in the same fashion as Primetime Emmy nominations/wins.  (Meaning, we would say, "Emmy winner for..." or "Nominated for x Emmys" whether those awards were in the Daytime or Primetime category.)  And, an Emmy WIN in either Daytime or Primetime would be weighted more than an Emmy NOMINATION in either Daytime or Primetime, of course.  Furthermore, if someone wins both a Daytime Emmy AND a Primetime Emmy, we would simply say, "Won 2 Emmys.", not "Won 1 Emmy.  Another 1 win.", the later of which would make no sense, obviously.

Correcting this at its core (meaning the weighted internal algorithm) should, hopefully, avoid the errors like the ones we've illustrated above.

Thanks!


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