PS: Princess of the Rags

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Intro:

It's a bad thing when a good soul goes down. These female characters experienced lows, nobody wants to experience - mostly not completely self-induced. When you look at their situation, they are sympathic in some ways. Which of these unhappy ladies would you most like to save from their situation? Tell us about her ... here.

Rules:

It's like in the description and in the examples. I use "Princess of the Rags" as a metaphor for women who are really down in ways of addiction, psychological, psycho-social or other social ways. They can also wear real rags, which would make it complete. I think of a list with guys, too. With candidates from 'Life Stinks', 'Ironweed', and some other movies. Just a little adjusted for males.

List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls081779808/

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Hello, Dan. TV-Movies are ok. :D
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Breumaster,

Thank you for adding:
Florabelle (Lucille Ball) in Stone Pillow (1985 TV Movie)
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Thank you for suggesting. :D
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Thank you, Peter. :D
I'll look at them later, but guess they're candidates. :)
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Peter:
Oh yes, they are. Thank you. :D
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FYC:

Sara Goldfarb from Requiem for a Dream (2000)

Ellen Burstyn in Requiem for a Dream 2000

Btw, are you only considering women from movies? Or from TV and video games as well?
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Sad to hear that you don't like video games but it's alright.

Here are a few more suggestions:

Mother from Mother! (2017)
Javier Bardem and Jennifer Lawrence in Mother 2017

Dani from Midsommar (2019)
Florence Pugh in Midsommar 2019

Claire from Collateral Beauty (2016)
Kate Winslet in Collateral Beauty 2016

Sybill Trelawney from the Harry Potter series.
Emma Thompson in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban 2004

Btw, do women from typical (ghost and stuff) horror movies count?
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Bo:
Please get me wright. The last game, I bought was Diablo 3. It's no joke, I'm really a gamer, too. It's just because I think that movies and games are two complete separate things for me. So I really just don't want to mix them up.
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These are all women who are not so fitting to the idea. Mother was down at the end, but the question is: Which of these unhappy ladies would you most like to save from their situation? Meant are fictional or real people in "real" life. Mother is a similie for mother earth.

Dani never had rags. She got a nice dress made of blossoms. She is a victim in this movie, but she never had to suffer a longtime depression like drugs. I'm aiming for women who suffered over a longer distance, like Sara Goldfarb or Streep's character in Ironweed.

I guess I have to put Claire from Colateral Beauty on the list, because I never saw the movie.

Sybill Trelawney is nearest of them I know. But she has intact social bonds, even thogh she is a little weirdo. Her clothing is mor hippie like and less rags.
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Breumaster,

I suggested these characters with respect to your intro and question.

But reading your above message makes me think that I might have gotten confused with your intro/description.

I think you should remove Claire from 'Collateral Beauty' too because she never had rags either. I suggested because she is unhappy with her life. She has suicidal tendencies and clinical depression, but she wore nice clothes and never appeared to be in pain to other characters.
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I let her stay on the list. She is the best example of these four ladies, according to your description. :D
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Typo: sympathic --> sympathetic
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Thank you, Peter. I corrected it.
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FYC: A Blind Girl from City Lights
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Oh yeah, she had bad times. How lovely she is. And on the list.
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Hi Breu, what a great idea for a poll! 

May I suggest a few minor edits to the intro? (in bold below -- the first one ("lows nobody") just had an incorrect comma)

It's a bad thing when a good soul goes down. These female characters experienced lows nobody wants to experience - mostly, if not completely, self-induced. When you look at their situation, they are sympathetic in some ways. Which of these unhappy ladies would you most like to save from her situation?

I love the "Tell us about her ... " by the way.

Also, I'm wondering about the clause "mostly, if not completely, self-induced." I haven't seen all of the films on the list but Precious, for instance, hardly seems at all responsible. If you want the characters to be only those characters who are in some way accountable for their own misery, I wouldn't include Precious and I would probably re-word it a little bit to be something like "...to experience even if they may be partly, if not compeletely, self-induced." If you don't necessarily want only characters who are somewhat responsible, perhaps it's better to leave that clause out?
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Done.
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I just though a minute and remembered Precious. You're right. I took her from the list.
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I remember i wrote that lines, which may be a little misunderstood, about the different backgrounds of these ladies. Yes, Precious is not guilty for her situations, but other are (just a little bit) for not saying no to drugs. That's why the formulation is a little fishy. I wrote it new and will put Precious back on the list.
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Precious is perfect for the poll. She suffered a long period, has multiple psychological problems and social distancing from other people. Somehow she wears rags, even without wearing rags. Just the little wrong formulation shouldn't erase her as an option.
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Changed "unhappy" to "unlucky".
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Do they have to be in rags materialistically, as well? If so, there are these characters below but only Halley's situation could possibly be considered to be somewhat self-induced. (I don't know if in Wendy's situation, the audience really knows -- I can't remember. In Claudel's situation, I guess it might depend on perspective but I don't think so.) Halley fits every rule. 

FYC:

Camille Claudel from 'Camille Claudel' (she's in rags by the end)
Celie from 'The Color Purple' (although she triumphs at the end so maybe she doesn't fit, actually)
Wendy from 'Wendy and Lucy' (Michelle Williams plays so many of these kinds of characters)
Halley from 'The Florida Project'

If they don't have to be in rags materialistically at well, I have several other suggestions.I watch a lot of movies with women who are really down and out, lol. 

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The rags are a simmilie to a trauma. The ladies which are candidates are those who have drunk for two decades, used hard drugs for several years, so that they are down in life, other causes may be long distance social depression. I could have named that poll also "Ladies With a Trauma", but I wanted to make it more sensitive for given them the sympathy of the users. I guess your suggestions fit. So I'll put them to the list. If these ladies also wear rags, perfect!
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Ruby:
Thank you for suggesting. :D
I've put your suggestions to the list.
Gotta sleep now. ;)
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You might suggest more, I'm just answering later, but I'm in high expectations now.
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FYC:

Hypatia from Agora (2009)

Rachel Weisz in Agora 2009
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Bo: Thak you. :D
I've never seen the movie, but heard it's very good. These are not especially rags, but I know Rachel Weisz mostly always does serious movies. From what I've seen from her, she's a real decent woman. I like her acting and I'm angry about to have missed that movie, yet. I will do later, but I will for sure.
I've put Hypatia on the list.
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Does she have a special trauma she suffers?