Live Poll: Favorite Oscar-Winning Best Picture Comedy?

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Which of these comedic Oscar-winning Best Picture movies is the your favorite?

See the partial list of Oscar-winning Best Picture comedic movies here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls040148213/

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/gZaudo6jM3M/
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I suggested that a few years ago (before the GS board) and I couldn't resign myself to label "One Flew" or "Terms of Endearments" as comedies, their endings alone should cancel any temptation to consider them as comedies, so I went with that introduction:

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls073724575/
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Thanks, I added Rain Man (1988), but didn't add American Beauty (1999) (I thought it might qualify too). I agree, for each movie its somewhat subject to interpretation and not necessarily a question that has a right or wrong answer. I don't find any of these to be stretch and legitimate inclusions nor do I think are just dramas or another genre that has a bit of comedy mixed in. The real question is how of a comedic element does a film have to have to be classified as a comedy, wherever you place that line is debatable and whether it meets it is too.

I decided if IMDb or Wikipedia either classified the movie as falling within the comedy genre, I would include it among the poll answer options. Therefore, it is just not any one person's take and supposedly corroborated from an authoritative source.

I wouldn't disqualify "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)" or "Terms of Endearment (1983) for their endings. I think it is too their credit that they can deal with serious topics and make people still laugh. Plus, this is the Oscar Best Picture category, automatically guaranteeing a different type of film. It is hard to disqualify them for the same thing that got them on the list in the first place. Nor do I expect a movie that is sophomoric or slap-stick to qualify either.

Bottom line, if a poll taker disagrees with the classification, they can choose not to vote for it. Otherwise, it is an available option for those agree and it would be their first choice. Options that are truly debatable will never get any serious traction to contend anyways.
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"Oscar-Winning Best Picture"?
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I am not sure I understand the question?
Oscar-Winning as opposed to [Oscar-Nominated]
Best Picture as opposed to [all other or any other specific Oscar category] with a Oscar win or nomination

To qualify, the movie must be a comedy, win an Oscar and win in the Best Picture category specifically. If it doesn't meet those three requirements, it is not in the pool of answers.
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The phrasing seems redundant, but maybe the contrary such as "Best Picture Winner" would be ambiguous.
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Then how would you know it isn't asking about the best picture from another awards show? Even if the Oscars are "the" award show, they aren't the "only" award show. I don't think it is redundant, I think it is clear and doesn't make any assumptions.

Even so, it can be a good thing, if it better communicates what you are asking and removes any ambiguity. People often need to be told twice to hear it once.
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Speaking for myself, I always say "Best Picture" in the title because it's the usual term of reference for eOscar-winning Best Picture". What are the other awards after all? Golden Globes? Best Drama. Best Comedy/Musical. BAFTA? Best Film. Palme d'Or? Golden Palm Winner. etc etc. 

Of course for the other categories, you would have to mention the Oscars.

That said, I can't use Best Picture in the title and not specify in the introduction that it's about the Oscars, just in case a minority wouldn't get it. I agree it sounds slightly redundant to have Oscar and Best Picture together in a title, but something would be lacking if you didn't mention the Oscars in the text.

So maybe there's no need for "Oscars" in the title.
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Fair point, It is only one of the top awards, who phrase it that way. There are literally hundreds of awards each year for top movie, some do use "Best Picture" as a category. I probably could get away with dropping it. Likewise, I choose to put it the title and question just to keep it straight, locate it easier and to not confuse with other poll suggestions. Plus, it becomes a search keyword that makes it draw more searches to your poll or list.
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You're right but that's why I said "our usual terms of references", in theory, BEST PICTURE can refer to many awards other than the "big one", in reality, more than 95% of the polls deal with the top awards anyway :) so BEST PICTURE is generally understood as the Oscar. I said "generally"
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Thanks for the vote.
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Oscars 2019 bump
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'National Comedian Day' is the1st of April, as well as, April being National Humor Month. National Comedy Day' is the 7th of November.
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Typo:
Which of these comedic Oscar-winning Best Picture movies is your favorite?
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Urb,

Although there are comedic elements in each of these films, I do not see how these films can be considered comedies:
Forrest Gump (1994)
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
Rain Man (1988)
Driving Miss Daisy (1989)
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T.U. & I.A.
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Wikipedia offers a different assessment to yours, not that Wikipedia is the final say. It does indicate some support that many people feel they are comedies or at least least the hybrid genre, Comedy-Drama. I COMPLETELY AGREE with the label all four have been given as Comedy-Dramas. As you are already aware, movies can be classified in more than one genre and are not limited to being just one type of movie.

"Forrest Gump - Wikipedia" Forrest Gump is a 1994 American comedy-drama film based on the 1986 novel of the same name by Winston Groom
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (film) - Wikipedia"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is a 1975 American comedy-drama film directed by Miloš Forman, based on the 1962 novel One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey."
Rain Man - Wikipedia "Rain Man is a 1988 American comedy-drama road movie directed by Barry Levinson and written by Barry Morrow and Ronald Bass."
Driving Miss Daisy - Wikipedia "Driving Miss Daisy is a 1989 American comedy-drama film directed by Bruce Beresford and written by Alfred Uhry, based on Uhry's play of the same name"

This Comedy-Drama label is also shared by the more authoritative, American Film Institute on three of the four films with the exception being, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975). I think the movie may have preceded the emergence of this combined genre and just hasn't been re categorized yet. Robert Ebert concurs and labels that movie an outright in comedy in his 2003 re-review of the film. "The film is remembered as a comedy about the inmate revolt led by McMurphy, and the fishing trip, the all-night orgy, and his defiance of Nurse Ratched (Fletcher)--but in fact it is about McMurphy's defeat."

I think the genre labels on IMDb are outright wrong for these four films. It would seem like I am not the only one who feels all four are better described as Comedy-Dramas than as Dramas.
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I think that for IMDb, since they have no "Comedy-Drama" genre label, the question is whether a film rises to the Comedy genre, the definition of which begins, "Virtually all scenes should contain characters participating in humorous or comedic experiences."

Since your subject is "Comedy", I think people similarly ask whether the films are comedies outright, not whether they are comedy-dramas.
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Fair point, but I do think when people ask the question," Which comedies have won or been nominated for an Oscar?", these films should be in the discussion. I think they are generally included in Oscar lists on the topic elsewhere already.

I think a tweaking of the question to be less black and white would help. It would include both outright comedies and multi-genre comedies.

Which of these Oscar-winning Best Picture movies with comedic elements is your favorite?


I could include an asterisk * comedy, comedy-drama, and other hybrid comedy genres to be even more clear.
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By the way, Green Book isn't on your list yet. It is arguably also comedy-drama, but does have comedy listed on IMDb.
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Thanks, I added it.

I was just thinking about that yesterday too. "Green Book is a 2018 American biographical comedy-drama film directed by Peter Farrelly." Green Book (film) - Wikipedia corroborates the assessment too.
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I certainly wouldn't use Wikipedia as a source. It has no editor, isn't peer review, and isn't reliable. IMDb also uses user-contributed data, of course, but since we're on IMDb, why not just go with the genres listed on IMDb? IMDb may not have a comedy-drama genre but it does list multiple genres and many films are categorized as, for example, "drama, comedy" or "comedy, drama." Since 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest,' 'Rain Man,' and 'Driving Miss Daisy,' are categorized as dramas and do not include "comedy" as applicable genres, I'd suggest not including them.  I would caution against 'One Flew' and 'Rain Man,' especially: although both certainly have comedic elements, as many dramas do, these are serious dramas about serious content and address, among other things, medical conditions that have been stigmatized and often addressed with inappropriate so-called humor. These films are not guilty of that but categorizing them as comedies could be seen as falling into that dynamic. 

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Wikipedia does have an editor. Wikipedia does have peer review. Wikipedia articles that are non-controversial and experience frequent page hits have a high level of accuracy, as an outcome of the verifiability requirement. In general, these words and phrases are largely inexact (enough to not accommodate a world-view): "editor", "peer review", "reliable", "comedy-drama" and so. Inquiring about why not simply going with the genres listed on IMDb is a good question, though.
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rubyfruit76 Wikipedia has adiministrators which act as a collective editor. Its reliability depends on a lot of factors, though, no two language versions of Wikipedia are alike, for example. 

I'd say that it's usually visible when sources are mostly unreliable as when they are reliable you can verify most of them through the reference list. It's not like printed sources never had same exact problems as Wikipedia over centuries of existence. 
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Wikipedia is definitely not peer-reviewed with the definition that I was intending. Only scholarly journals are peer-reviewed. My problem with Wikipedia is not that it's online (I have a lot of respect for several online publications and was an editor for one for four years) and while it does often have a fairly high level of accuracy, it is in no way comparable to professionally edited sources and certainly not held to anything in the realm of the standard that peer-reviewed journals hold themselves. This is not just my opinion. This is the judgement of the association of accredited U.S. colleges and universities. Even good high schools usually don't allow it as a source.

I will say that I do like that sources are often cited on Wikipedia and I think it can be very useful as a first place to go when doing research. I also agree that whether a movie is any particular genre will never reach a consensus. 

Regardless, there's also a question of sensitivity in the case of 'One Flew' and 'Rain Man' and that's why I would choose to err on the conservative side. Otherwise, I wouldn't have a problem with using Wikipedia for these polls that are largely for fun. It has often been used and even cited as a source for several polls that I've pushed. I just think that this case could perhaps be more consequential than usual. 
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As far as scholastic essays go, often no encyclopedia is acceptable as a source.
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Wikipedia like anything else is not the end all and be all of information.However, for the most part it is accurate. The two biggest criticisms I have are its completeness on a topic and how some pages have a deliberate bias to a point of view.  I do like that it tends to have inside information or behind the story details on a topic that you would never see in Encyclopedia Britannica. Like anything else, the reader needs to use common sense and not take everything as indisputable. That said, I am a fan, as I think it has far more positives than negatives.
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