Properly crediting individual names in a group.

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My singing group is credited in a movie as only our group name. We were originally credited (Theatrical version) individually but on DVD-Release we are only credited as the group name. I am trying to add our names (4 of us) "As our group name". How do I go about doing that?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1679121

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Hi deepvoice -

You can find additional information about these type of Group credits here:
http://www.imdb.com/updates/guide/names_all#group

To answer your question, you should submit your credits based on the theatrical release.  So you can submit your credit to your existing page under "Aint Misbehavin", with an aka (as..) attribute for the name you were credited under on-screen, does that make sense?




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To add all four people, would I submit a credit from the existing page 4 times, each with an "as Ain't Misbehavin"?
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Yep, that's correct!
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Michelle: Are you sure about that? The guide says:

  • If The Beatles are credited that way, we would not enter "Lennon, John (as The Beatles); McCartney, Paul (as The Beatles); Harrison, George (as The Beatles); Starr, Ringo (as The Beatles)"
    Instead, they would simply be credited as "Beatles, The".
  • In the above cases, individual members of the group can be added to credits with the (uncredited) attribute.

    E.g. Help! (1965): Paul McCartney ... Paul - The Beatles (uncredited), or if appropriate (documentaries, talk shows etc.)
    Paul McCartney ... Himself - The Beatles (uncredited).

    Please note we prefer the "Paul - The Beatles" hyphenated character notation, rather than "member of" or "one of".

So by that logic, the credits should probably read something like this:

Dick Lyon ... Tenor - Barbershop Quartet (uncredited)
Alan Smart ... Lead - Barbershop Quartet (uncredited)
Nathen Wormbrod ... Baritone - Barbershop Quartet (uncredited)
Damon Sauer ... Bass - Barbershop Quartet (uncredited)

None of the members were credited individually as Ain't Misbehavin'. Only the group as a whole was credited under that name. If the individual members were given (as Ain't Misbehavin') attributes, that would be like listing "Lennon, John (as The Beatles); McCartney, Paul (as The Beatles); Harrison, George (as The Beatles); Starr, Ringo (as The Beatles)" which the guide says not to do.






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Thanks gromit82, I'm checking with our data managers to re-confirm in this scenario, once I hear back from them I will post here.
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Thank you Gromit82. This sounds correct to me. In the theatrical release the credits ran:

Dick Lyon -  Barbershop Quartet  "Ain't Misbehavin"
Damon Sauer   - Barbershop Quartet  "Ain't Misbehavin"
etc.
Individually credited. Maybe this is why they changed it in the DVD release?
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Deepvoice: The way the credits should be listed on IMDb is the way they were listed in the original release of the film, which in this case would have been the theatrical version. Later changes to the credits should usually be irrelevant to IMDb.

The difficulty, though, is that the DVD version of the credits is easy to find and prove. I don't know how you can prove that your individual credits appeared in the theatrical release credits.

I also don't know why the producers would have changed the credits from theatrical to DVD versions. The easiest thing for them would have been to leave the credits just as they were.

My comment above was directed mostly toward the way your individual credits should be formatted based on the DVD release. But based on the theatrical release which is supposed to be the main source for IMDb's credits, I would say they should read as:

Dick Lyon ...  Barbershop Quartet  "Ain't Misbehavin"
Damon Sauer ... Barbershop Quartet  "Ain't Misbehavin"
etc., with no attributes needed.
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So, on the German version of the DVD I suppose they didn't change the credits like they did with the English version (Please note this from the Credits info button) They would not have the members of the quartet's names if they were not credited individually by name.

http://www.buch.ch/shop/home/artikeldetails/bobby_jones_die_golflegende/EAN4030521387751/ID6127413.h...

Since this is the case. This is where the original confusion comes in.
Would this mean a individual IMDB page for each credited or click on add credit 4 times?
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Deep: Go to the page for the film "Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius", and click "Edit page".

On the next screen, on the Cast line, select "Add 4 credits" in the drop-down box. Scroll down and click "Continue".

On the next screen, you will see four lines, one for each person you will be submitting to add to the credits. Those lines are where you will fill in the group member names.


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Just to clarify and make sure we're all doing the right thing...

This is just like the Beatles/Help! example but round the other way. So follow gromit82's advice and enter the individual credits for each member of the group, but you can also get the group on the page by adding a credit for Ain't Misbehavin with:
character Themselves
attribute (uncredited)

That will make sure that everyone can be found.
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Thanks so much for clarifying Tim!