Problem trying to update character information on Tales of Wells Fargo

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Problem with locked character data on the TV show. Need to delete some incorrect actors but main problem is adding/correcting order numbers for several actors. This is on seasons 3, 4, and 5. I assume this requires staff action to unlock the data.
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Hey there,

Thanks for your post.

If you can provide some further information about the credits you're looking to change, our editors can take a look into this for you.

Cheers,

Joel
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Here are the season.episodes that are in question. As to character names for most of the seasons the credits did not show the character names and for many of the shows in the later seasons most of the cast information was missing in the IMDb database for the shows so it had to be filled in from the closing credits so there was some confusion.

3.1 June Roberts was not in the credits or in the show and should be deleted. She was put in due to a mix up on the Roberts name.

3.6 Leonard P. Geer should have the attribute (uncredited) added as he was in the show but not the opening or closing credits.

3.29 Kit Carson should have the attribute (uncredited) added as he was in the show but not the opening or closing credits.

4.8 For Gilman Rankin add the order number 5 from the closing credits and remove the name attribute (as Gil Rankin) as it is incorrect based on the credits.

4.9 For Tom Laughlin add the order number 2 and add the name attribute (as Thomas R. Laughlin) as shown in the closing credits.

4.12 Bobby Hall should have the attribute (uncredited) added as he was in the show but not the opening or closing credits.

4.20 For Robert Cornthwaite add the order number 3 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Vincent Dodd. For Coleen Gray add the order number 2 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Sandra Morton. For Britt Lomond add the order number 4 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Gerald Haggerty.

4.21 For Bruce Gordon add the order number 2 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Len Garner. For Jean Ingram add the order number 4 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Jane Kimball.

4.27 For Ed Kemmer expand the character name to Joe Beecher. For Jan Merlin expand the character name to Johnny Hogan. For George Ramsey expand the character name to Mr. Trager. For Joyce Taylor expand the character name to Ann King.

4.28 For John Archer add the order number 2 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Pete Jennings. For Cassie Case add the order number 4 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Elsie Jennings. For Patricia Huston add the order number 5 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Marge Walker.

4.34 For Jean Inness add the order number 4 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Martha Roseboro. For Stafford Repp add the order number 5 and expand the character name to Sheriff Henry Roseboro. For boyd Stockman add the order number 7 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Stagecoach Driver.

4.37 For Dennis Cross add the order number 5 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Luke Lambert. for Harold J. Stone add the order number 2 from the closing credits and expand the character name to Phil Couglin. For Regis Toomey add the order number 3 from the closing credits and correct the character name to be Les Goslyn. For Al Wyatt Sr. add the order number 7 from the closing credits, expand the character name to Ed Garrett and add the name attribute (as Al Wyatt).

5.1 For Kit Carson add the attribute (uncredited) as he was not in the opening or closing credits. The cast member Verna McDougal should be deleted as she was not in the show and probably from the IMDb database as this show is the only entry for her plus her first name is the same as one of the characters in the show so someone may have improperly entered some cast information by accident.

5.10 The cast member Carol Ohmart should be deleted from this episode cast as she is neither in the credits or in the show. She played this character in 5.8 (Leading Citizen).

5.11 The cast member Martin Smith should be deleted from this episode cast as he is neither in the credits or in the show. He played this character in 5.9 (The Killing of Johnny Lash).

5.26 The cast member J. Pat O'Malley should be deleted from this episode cast as he is neither in the credits or in the show. He was added due to confusion between his name and Pat O'Malley who was in the episode.





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Hi AlanB -

Thanks for listing all the corrections needed for this TV Series, you will be able to submit these cast/character corrections through our online Update form from the episode title pages or directly on the filmography pages of the individuals. 

So for example, removing the incorrect credit listing for "June Roberts", you can submit this deletion request from the episode title page here, just click on the "Edit Page" button near the bottom and you will be redirected to our online Update form.  Under the Cast and Crew section select 'Correct/Delete' next to the Cast drop-down menu and click on the "Continue" button.

In the Action menu next to the name "Roberts, June (II)" select "Delete" and click on the "Check these updates" button.  Provide your explanation for removing the credit and then click on the "Re-check these updates button".  The background should display Green and you will be able to click on the "Submit these updates" button.

If you encounter trouble submitting the data corrections on the episode title page, you can also try submitting corrections on the individual's filmography page.  For additional help on how to add/update information, please go here.

Please try submitting these credit updates, if you encounter any problems just let us know the details here and we can help further.  Cheers!
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I have been doing the updates as you suggested for years. I did most of the write-ups for the show. I have submitted all of these updates with no problem multiple times but they never took affect. Are you saying you have unlocked the data as I have run into problems before someone requesting to lock some types of updates on a show and I had to request help to unlock them.
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I tried entering the first change I listed but nothing has changed in the database. To me it appears the cast portion is locked for some reason which was my original complaint. I do realize changes can take a while to show up but these changes usually happen fairly quickly.
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Hi AlanB,

Thanks for your response.

I've reviewed a number of the existing credits which you're attempting to change, these appear to have been added by very prolific contributors and appear factual - this explains why your updates have been rejected in the past.

Please remember we list our filmography based on a titles original end credit sequence, if these updates are based on re-releases or video/DVD releases they are not eligible for listing.

Can you please confirm where you're updating these from?

Joel
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Not sure what you mean by from but I have watched the episodes multiple times and entered almost all of the write-ups and cast corrections for the series along with several other old westerns and other shows since 2009.

There are times when I spend hours tracking down a correct actor. Seasons 3, 4, and 5 were such a mess (cast listing) that I wrote the data down on paper to track it.

Seasons 1 and 2 were largely filled in except for the write-ups but for seasons 3, 4, and 5 (season 6 was not shown) most of the cast information was missing from IMdb as to who was in the episodes and the character names. Character names were only shown in the credits for the last season or two. I added the names from the cast listing on the show and occasionally added an (uncredited) actor if I recognized them.

Part of the problem was that for the last two or three seasons there were others changing the cast data but I was the only one doing the write-ups for the show. I spent considerable time tracking down the correct actors and cast names for the write-ups.. I also had to adjust my write-ups to use names (spellings) that matched when there were differences in spelling. a name. Some of the deletions appear to be names that were entered for the wrong show when the base data for the show was originally entered into the database and I know of one case where even I originally put in an incorrect actor.

For example in season 3 episode 1 the actor name to be deleted is a woman June Roberts who in the IMdb database was listed as Chris Roberts for one movie but the correct cast member is a man Cris Roberts as shown in the credits and for the episode in the database now. Someone confused the two names and did not recognize the sex difference which is obvious if you watch the show.

In season 5 some of the deletions are names that were entered for the wrong episode.

Many of the changes are order numbers which are missing and the holes in the numbers are obvious so why they are frozen is unclear. Others are adding the (uncredited) tag which again is obvious if you watch the credits to see who is listed.

Sorry for the slow response to your question but my work with the database has dropped off as the shows I worked on have for the most part been completed at least as far as I can take them (access to the shows) plus I must have missed the notification that you posted a reply.

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Hi AlanB,

Thank you for highlighting this and for doing such a detailed audit on the title, we should be accepting these amendments. I've removed the June Roberts credit now. Please can you resubmit any submissions that weren't accepted including a link to this Get Satisfaction thread so our data editors are aware of this situation?

Please let me know if you encounter any further issues and I can raise this internally.

Regards,
Will
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Will, I resubmitted the changes again on January 31, 2918 as you said and put a link to this thread in the comment section for each change but nothing has changed in the database in the places I have checked. The show appears to be locked for some reason.

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Hi AlanB -

Thanks for following-up here, in this case I was able to review several of the episode credits related to your submissions and confirmed that the updates you made to the cast credits are valid, the changes should be live on the episode title pages shortly for this series, thanks again for your patience and dedication to getting the data corrected.  Cheers!