They try hard. But all's a mess for these TV and Movie Characters. Who is your favorite Hard Luck Character?
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Posted 8 months ago
If I understand it as about hard fighting but unluckily characters:
Al Bundy - Married with children - Episode: A little of the top
Homer Simpson - nearly every episode
Lionel Cosgrove - Dead Alive
Donald duck - Nearly all Huey Duey and Lewey episodes, every chip and chap episode - The shortfilms
Holly Martins - The third man
Alex Murphy - Robocop, Robocop 2
Sam Bell - Moon
Andy Dufresne - Shawshank Redemption
Al Bundy - Married with children - Episode: A little of the top
Homer Simpson - nearly every episode
Lionel Cosgrove - Dead Alive
Donald duck - Nearly all Huey Duey and Lewey episodes, every chip and chap episode - The shortfilms
Holly Martins - The third man
Alex Murphy - Robocop, Robocop 2
Sam Bell - Moon
Andy Dufresne - Shawshank Redemption
Going to use some of these. Really looking for Women to balance this out.
Used Al, Holly, Sam, and Homer. Thanks
Ellie from Up
Erin Brockovich
Sarah Tobias - The Accused
Nina Sayers - Black Swan
Ryan Stone - Gravity (Sandra Bullock),
maybe?
Erin Brockovich
Sarah Tobias - The Accused
Nina Sayers - Black Swan
Ryan Stone - Gravity (Sandra Bullock),
maybe?
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Sandra in Miss Congeniality ?
L.A. Confidential Kim Basinger?
Doesn't Nina Die?
L.A. Confidential Kim Basinger?
Doesn't Nina Die?
She does.
Well, I don't know if Sandra in Miss Congeniality or Kim Basinger in L.A. Confidential fit. It's up to you what character you wanna put in. I'm just doing suggestions. ;) If they don't fit for your idea, it's up to you to leave them out. Greetings. :)
Well, I don't know if Sandra in Miss Congeniality or Kim Basinger in L.A. Confidential fit. It's up to you what character you wanna put in. I'm just doing suggestions. ;) If they don't fit for your idea, it's up to you to leave them out. Greetings. :)
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Thanks for the input. Your suggestions reminded me of other similar actresses and gave me different ideas. You really helped. Thanks so much.
You're welcome.
What do you think about Katherine G. Johnson from 'Hidden Figures'
or Aibileen Clark from 'The Help'? Do you think they would fit?
or Aibileen Clark from 'The Help'? Do you think they would fit?
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Going to watch Hidden Figures. Have not seen it. I like Taraji. Downloading right now. Let you know after a look see!
Will wait till its free on this one
My list has movies I have seen.
Will wait till its free on this one
My list has movies I have seen.
See both movies, excellent for history & civil rights era.
*bump*
Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
Ed Jones (XLIX) for some of the most dangerous animals out there hippos are very cute when they are. :)
Hatari (1962) Elsa Martinelli
Suggestion: Luther Van Damme and/or Hayden Fox from Coach.
Luther had good intentions but always ends up in trouble. Once to save the team from a plane crash he dreamed about, he booked them on a miserable train ride. He brought a monkey to the office and it bit Hayden, resulting in the worry that it might have a disease; they were quarantined.
Hayden had his share of things like that, too. His relationship with friends or family would go awry because of his worries or quirks.
Luther had good intentions but always ends up in trouble. Once to save the team from a plane crash he dreamed about, he booked them on a miserable train ride. He brought a monkey to the office and it bit Hayden, resulting in the worry that it might have a disease; they were quarantined.
Hayden had his share of things like that, too. His relationship with friends or family would go awry because of his worries or quirks.
I got a poll with Jack Slater in it, and not a PEEP?
I didn't even see Jack earlier!!! How'd that get past me?!?! So...
Thanks for adding Luther, BTW! :)
Thanks for adding Luther, BTW! :)
There is a season Bump Bump Bump.
Ha ha ha, as I was reading this I Love Lucy was on and Little Ricky was playing drums to the "bump, bump, bump." :D
I think the poll needs reworking, the idea is big enough to be split in two: one for movies and another for TV characters. Besides, from the title and the introduction, we may think the poll deals with poor schmucks who never get a break, so it's surprising to see a guy like John McClane who, by every cinematic standard, is a badass hero, of the "ordinary" type but far from the "lovable loser" archetype.
It's an establishing element of the hero to either be the "right person at the wrong place" or the "wrong person at the right place" but in their case, when they try hard, they eventually succeed. The original idea is good but the list is a kind of a mixed bag.
It's an establishing element of the hero to either be the "right person at the wrong place" or the "wrong person at the right place" but in their case, when they try hard, they eventually succeed. The original idea is good but the list is a kind of a mixed bag.
I see the term Character is used in the poll description, and the target "Hard Luck", but the same time I see no reference to any Archetypes. I just wonder because didn't know that the polls should automatically group or ungroup titles according to archetypes whenever the author use "Character" in a description...
Anyway, I have no success in searching "lovable loser" in existing classifications of archetypes, nor the shortest one, neither the extended one in its varieties: 1, 2, 3...
ElM., your idea for "lovable loser" as an establishing element of a hero to either be the "right person at the wrong place" or the "wrong person at the right place" is pretty good for a bag of two separate polls, but I see no reason why it should be done instead and not in parallel with this current poll. The latter aims no such question at all, or should it be? Why?
Anyway, I have no success in searching "lovable loser" in existing classifications of archetypes, nor the shortest one, neither the extended one in its varieties: 1, 2, 3...
ElM., your idea for "lovable loser" as an establishing element of a hero to either be the "right person at the wrong place" or the "wrong person at the right place" is pretty good for a bag of two separate polls, but I see no reason why it should be done instead and not in parallel with this current poll. The latter aims no such question at all, or should it be? Why?
The idea to split a poll into two parts, one for featured movies, another for TV, is in wide use whenever we need an empty room for more options.
Ed Jones, do you need an empty room?
Ed Jones, do you need an empty room?
Mmm, because I didn't look at it with the right angle... I get the point about John McClane, it was just the "try hard" that got me confused, I didn't feel like McClane tried to never get into these situations, but yeah, it can work.
Still, it's better not to mix between TV and movie (I think) and for Clouseau, I recommend Peter Sellers instead of Steve Martin.
Still, it's better not to mix between TV and movie (I think) and for Clouseau, I recommend Peter Sellers instead of Steve Martin.
I totally agree that The Pink Panther remake is a big looser comparing to its original, with no regard to Steve Martin. But I'm not sure would it be better to option the original in this poll... Maybe Steve Martin is even better to show the Hard Luck )))
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Ed Jones, do you need an empty room?
Never ask that question to a "Pack Rat"
The automatic response is "YES"
If I was inundated with suggestions I can always remove the ones that have a lesser chance of garnering a vote! Oh and on the garnering part........James Garner stays no matter what!
Well, OK... Does this poll of your slight handy is in need to need a piece of room to welcome some more options if the author of this poll that is you don't mind at all on this all? )))
Suggestions are always welcome.
If there are enough additions then I could slit it into two parts TV & Movie
If there are enough additions then I could slit it into two parts TV & Movie
MAthePA: LOL!
My workplace is "IN" the third box from the left!
Think MIB Space!
I'm from the Tarchalien Galaxy, where size does not matter.
Think MIB Space!
I'm from the Tarchalien Galaxy, where size does not matter.
This is me after a hard day at the US Poll Office!
Aha, I see.
A lot of inhabitants in all the boxes around there did a lot to be like that ;)))
A lot of inhabitants in all the boxes around there did a lot to be like that ;)))
Narni, I'd like to but I really have no chance to make a final choice between Charlize and Sophie, Jessica and Alicia, and so on. They are so great but so different, even when seem alike as Grace and Rosamund. That's why no suggestions of mine for such polls, but I vote there choosing between what options are closer to my LOVE.
And I hope such poll is going to be better when you direct it ;)
And I hope such poll is going to be better when you direct it ;)
Aww, thanks. :)
Sorry... what on Earth is that?!? :)
... it was the saddest bump ever ...
------ don't you see? ------
------ don't you see? ------
It's one of these that was larger before it died
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... and now it's the same, but no "b" and "m" inside ...
Check out this thorn tree. No leaves and never blooms. It is green from trunk to branches. You can see the car for a reference as to its size. Mojave Desert!!
Weeelll, but it's still better than Coober Pedy.
At least, you may plant pineapples.
At least, you may plant pineapples.
Oh, okay... I couldn't make sense of the pic before, haha! Well, I'd better get back to my Dallas re-watch marathon. :)
Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
Great poll suggestion! One of my first thoughts was Dexter Morgan from "Dexter", but Debra Morgan probably makes more sense, considering Dexter is an anti-hero and a serial killer. Still, living the life the only way he knew how to while a lot of things point that he was not a complete psychopath and might have been adjusted more to society makes him a tragic character.
Don't forget about how many of Debra's boyfriends end up dead or were serial killers too.
Wrongway Feldman Bump
And if you know who that is, you watch way too much TV!
And if you know who that is, you watch way too much TV!
Wrongway Feldman was a pilot who showed up on Gilligan's Island, but of course his visit did not help the castaways escape. (Typed without help from Google - guess I watch a lot of T.V.?) :)
Without looking it up..........What's his name, and what cartoon "segment" did he narrate. Extra Credit if you spell it Correctly/Incorrectly!!!! That's a hint by the way.
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Without looking it up...
Name: No clue, but I've seen him before
Cartoon: No clue.
:D
Name: No clue, but I've seen him before
Cartoon: No clue.
:D
Hans Conried https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0175788/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
He was on
The Bullwinkle Show
Rocky and His Friends
Moosylvania: Parts 3-4 (1963) ... Snidely Whiplash (voice, credit only)
He was also the segment narrator for Fractured Flicka's on both shows
Hew as also in the 1953 version of
Peter Pan as Captain Hook / Mr. Darling (voice)
He was on
The Bullwinkle Show
Rocky and His Friends
Moosylvania: Parts 3-4 (1963) ... Snidely Whiplash (voice, credit only)
He was also the segment narrator for Fractured Flicka's on both shows
Hew as also in the 1953 version of
Peter Pan as Captain Hook / Mr. Darling (voice)
Really, that was him? I know him pretty well, from I Love Lucy, The Twonky, and many other old shows/movies.
Cool
I get many ideas but most have been chosen already, so you can consider Alan Harper from Two and half men, To this guy I treat life very badly
Joe the poll already has 35 choices.
Thanks
Thanks
Peter, Champion
Please capitalize a few D's to follow IMDb's preferred title capitalization. And maybe add a question mark:
What Did I Do Wrong Now?
What Did I Do Wrong Now?
Thanks Peter.
That was one of my earliest creations.
Surprised I missed that on the "Bumps"
I know better!
Cheers
Ed
That was one of my earliest creations.
Surprised I missed that on the "Bumps"
I know better!
Cheers
Ed
Ed Jones (XLIX)
Stephen I added a Bunch More!
Toody and Muldoon are on the list!
Ed Jones (XLIX)
Where are you?