Intro:
A look in modern media. There is a common sense of delusion about
everybody has to be young. Commercials mostly show 25 year old anorexia
models without facial wrinkles, completely clean and they look like a perfect designed cyborg, made of plastic.
When you look at Sir Sean Connery or Sean Bean you might realize that some people don't have to follow that delusion, because of their rich and lovely personality. They mature like an extraordinary good vine, e.g. from Petrus vineyards. The older they get, the better they look, the more attractive they are. This also counts for many actresses. Now look at the actresses 55+ of age. Which of these actresses below did most grow to you heart or simply which of them do you most admire? (Please avoid to let their sense of taste for clothing or makeup at events influence your decision.) Tell me about her.
Rules:
She has to be or have been popular.
She should be 55+ (I don't count on a few weeks difference, but not more than 3 month)
She should still live, the day it really becomes a poll. (in case of accidents, etc.)
She should also be a movie actress
List:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls049333740/
Poll:
https://www.imdb.com/poll/fQmbI0sZ6xU/
A look in modern media. There is a common sense of delusion about
everybody has to be young. Commercials mostly show 25 year old anorexia
models without facial wrinkles, completely clean and they look like a perfect designed cyborg, made of plastic.
When you look at Sir Sean Connery or Sean Bean you might realize that some people don't have to follow that delusion, because of their rich and lovely personality. They mature like an extraordinary good vine, e.g. from Petrus vineyards. The older they get, the better they look, the more attractive they are. This also counts for many actresses. Now look at the actresses 55+ of age. Which of these actresses below did most grow to you heart or simply which of them do you most admire? (Please avoid to let their sense of taste for clothing or makeup at events influence your decision.) Tell me about her.
Rules:
She has to be or have been popular.
She should be 55+ (I don't count on a few weeks difference, but not more than 3 month)
She should still live, the day it really becomes a poll. (in case of accidents, etc.)
She should also be a movie actress
List:
https://www.imdb.com/list/ls049333740/
Poll:
https://www.imdb.com/poll/fQmbI0sZ6xU/
Posted 4 months ago
FYC
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000884/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
56 Jennifer Beals
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005308/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
68
Elvira Mistress of the Dark Cassandra Peterson
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000884/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
56 Jennifer Beals
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005308/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
68
Elvira Mistress of the Dark Cassandra Peterson
Thanx, added. :D
I had no idea Sandra Bullock was over 55 - she looks great! So does Elvira.
I suggest Julia Duffy, of Newhart/Designing Women. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0240564/
Not only has she aged well, she is a very talented and funny actress.
I suggest Julia Duffy, of Newhart/Designing Women. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0240564/
Not only has she aged well, she is a very talented and funny actress.
Thank you, NIA. :D
Sandra Bullock is still 54 years old. She has her next birthday at July, 26. That's just a few weeks, but I let it count up to 3 month. It might take a little time till the List may become a poll, but in a little more than a month, Sandra is 55 y.o. I love our German lady, even met her at the premiere of "The Proposal" for wich she came to Germany. She's really a nice and kind person. So I wanted her to be on the list. ;)
If there are a few ladys on the list, which turn 55+ only within three month, the world will still turn. ;D And three month later, the title surely fits for all of them.
Sandra Bullock is still 54 years old. She has her next birthday at July, 26. That's just a few weeks, but I let it count up to 3 month. It might take a little time till the List may become a poll, but in a little more than a month, Sandra is 55 y.o. I love our German lady, even met her at the premiere of "The Proposal" for wich she came to Germany. She's really a nice and kind person. So I wanted her to be on the list. ;)
If there are a few ladys on the list, which turn 55+ only within three month, the world will still turn. ;D And three month later, the title surely fits for all of them.
BTW, I think Julia Duffy was in some movies; just realized that was one of the requirements! :D
So she is your suggestion, I guess!?
Added. :D
Thank you! :)
Madeleine Stowe, 60
Still 7 options available - It's your turn. ;D
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000510/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Andie MacDowell....61
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000193/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Demi Moore 56
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001481/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
The Skipper and Gilligan should look so good!
Tina Louise....85
Andie MacDowell....61
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000193/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Demi Moore 56
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001481/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
The Skipper and Gilligan should look so good!
Tina Louise....85
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Thanx! Added. ;D
Andie MacDowell is so cute! I Loved her character so hard at 'Groundhog Day' ! :D
Room for more?
Still 3 to go.
Will be back with suggs. :)
I would prefer some more black actresses. This list again turns out to be so white. But maybe there is a fabulous black or mexican or one more asien actress?
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https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000706/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Michelle Yeoh....56
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000427/
Pam Grier
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001853/
Vanessa Williams.......56
Michelle Yeoh....56
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000427/
Pam Grier
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001853/
Vanessa Williams.......56
Thank you Ed. Michelle Yeoh still is on the list. For the other two I want to give NIA a chance to answere. After she did, I will decide which of the ladys I'll put to the list. Pam Grier sure is a wonderful pick and might have best chances to get on the list.
Please note: Untill the list turns to be a poll, the list is flexible. So if better suggestions appear, I will turn down other options. Which they are I will decide case by case. Black, Asien and Mexican outstanding 55+ ladies have priority in a matter of diversity and to not make the list too white. Thank you, guys.
Please note: Untill the list turns to be a poll, the list is flexible. So if better suggestions appear, I will turn down other options. Which they are I will decide case by case. Black, Asien and Mexican outstanding 55+ ladies have priority in a matter of diversity and to not make the list too white. Thank you, guys.
Was gonna suggest Tia Carrere but she's just 52! I suppose that's not close enough...
Here's some to pick from:
Dolly Parton
Jamie Lee Curtis
Oprah Winfrey
Whoopi Goldberg (unless they're already on the list)
Here's some to pick from:
Dolly Parton
Jamie Lee Curtis
Oprah Winfrey
Whoopi Goldberg (unless they're already on the list)
Dolly Parton is more a singer than an actress. I think there are ladies that deserve more to stand between these excellent actresses. Sure Dolly Parton is honorable and at the fitting age, but no. I wonder I forgot Jamie Lee Curtis. Excellent pick, she's on the list. Oprah too. Whoopi Goldberg was on the list before. Thank you. :D
Ed:
I've put Pam Grier to the list.
If you want, you can still suggest ladies that fit. It might be, that I forgot very honorable women that are not white. I'm flexible about it. For more diversity, I'm ready to put other women on the list.
Please remember: There are only 35 options maximum and there are already very strong candidates on the list. So I'm not willing to change strong women like Julianne Moore, Anette Bening, Michelle Yeoh or Angela Basset for weaker candidates. Thank you both anyway, that was great help, buddies.
I've put Pam Grier to the list.
If you want, you can still suggest ladies that fit. It might be, that I forgot very honorable women that are not white. I'm flexible about it. For more diversity, I'm ready to put other women on the list.
Please remember: There are only 35 options maximum and there are already very strong candidates on the list. So I'm not willing to change strong women like Julianne Moore, Anette Bening, Michelle Yeoh or Angela Basset for weaker candidates. Thank you both anyway, that was great help, buddies.
Aw, nuts! I thought I had some all-new material! :D
Oh, I see now... Oprah and Jamie WERE new! I thought you meant they were already there. :)
Hard to choose, but I'm somewhere between Julianne Moore, Jennifer Beals, and Penelope Ann Miller
I'd like to be between all 3 too.
Oh gents, these are decent ladys. :D
Please behave. ;)
Please behave. ;)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0140792/?ref_=tt_cl_t1
Dianne Caroll.......84
First African American to Star in her own TV Show in 1968
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062575/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3
Dianne Caroll.......84
First African American to Star in her own TV Show in 1968
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062575/?ref_=fn_al_tt_3
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Good ones!
That is from Encyclopedia Edtanica too!
Give me time. I think she's a good and honorable cadidate when it comes to black life in media. Now I'm about to kick another candidate, but I'd rather consider this after next sleeping period. ;)
Gooden Nacht
Had to search a little. It's Diahann Carroll not Dianne Caroll ;D
Dan Dassow, Champion
Here's a name that's not on that list:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000157/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Linda Hamilton.....62
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000157/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1
Linda Hamilton.....62
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Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
I very much plus her!
I'll put her to the list. My problem now is to decide, which of these strong women has to quit because of the 35 options limitation. ;)
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Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
I love that poll. It seems that attitude towards age slowly shifts and that's great.
For now it's just a suggestion. I hope it will become a poll. It's seems to be popular, when I look at the many suggestions of other users. :D
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Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
Oh, and FYC:
Barbara Crampton (61)
Barbara Crampton (61)
She looks a little like a well aged scream queen. I'll think about her, but Nikolay, you must admit - there are already strong ladies on the list. I would tend more to take another black, asien or mexican woman on the list (for diversity). :D
I'LL BUY THIS ONE! And incidentally, boys & girls, F.Y.I., this is whom Waldo was referring to:
DEBRAH FARENTINO, AGED 60, from the SCI-FI/FANTANSY T.V. show "EARTH 2".
DEBRAH FARENTINO, AGED 60, from the SCI-FI/FANTANSY T.V. show "EARTH 2".
Thank you for your suggestion. I'm not really sure about her when I look at the other actresses on the list. I gotta think of it a time.
(As LATKA GRAVAS from TAXI): "T'ANK YOU VEDDY MUCH!" LOL!
Your statement about commercials privileging only 25 or younger anorexic models is rather debatable if you allow me to bring a disagreeing voice (though I see your point), for instance, we live in a social-network driven era, it's not about commercials but about Twitter, Instagram and Facebook and the women who choose to expose the physical value of their apparences rather than the content of their characters are rarely doing this by showing how "skinny" they are... besides, commercials tend to explore (or exploit) the popularity of female stars and you can see them all selling out for some big perfume brand with an arthouse-style clip... what you're referring to was rather common in the 90s with figures such as Claudia Schiffer, Elle McPherson or Naomi Campbell... but I think it's a misconception that thin is the new sexy, overweight might be not but even then, there is a margin for appreciation.
Thank you for the critical voice. I would agree, if the highly acclaimed designers of dresses also would bring out collections for more bigger women. But women from the size of Melissa McCarthy in normal life and without McCarthy's cash still have problems to find good looking clothing. At most highly acclaimed fashion stores they still can't. If you are skinny, you have no problem anyway. You'd find clothing in any store everywhere in the world. The same for men. It's not easy to find clothing for men which are big. You just might look at the Harry Potter movies. All dumb characters are big sized. There is still a prejudice for people that are big sized. And the shows of Heidi Klum ("Germany's Next Topmodel") won't make it better. The skinny dogma still lasts. When I look a commercial, people are mostly young and sure not 1 gramm fat too much. If a tiny little belly is seen, they won't appear in commercials, unless they're the dumb negativ guy or girl to show how to not do something. After the negative guy/girl showed whats dumb, the clean, shaven, waxed and skinny people show how the problem is to be solved with [put in Trademark here].
Hey man, you didn't get my point, I 100% agree with what you said about "big sized" persons, though I would say that the main issue for men is heightism (being shorter than 5'9 is quite a physical handicap today regardless of the size), I was simply reacting to your intro because I didn't quite see the connection with the age. Ageism is an issue for that matter but many of these veteran actresses have their share of responsibility for the physical standards magazines are still selling today...
Agree. It was more about the generally being flawless in any kind. As I know many old people and I know people over decades, I also know that this flaws rise more and more the people get older. People get wrinkles, they grow horizontally, things like that. Some say main life is over with 60. Others say at 66 the life just beginns. ;D The thing with the bigger sized people is just a little part of it. I will change the intro, maybe it's more understandable, then. More to the point, perhaps.
Sure you'll find the right words... speaking for myself, body is like wine, ages well with time, nothing better than genuine imperfections, seriously...
Done. Better?
I think the male vs. female angle is more accurate, well written!
Thank you.
Peter, Champion
Instead of "malus", maybe ... "pain"?
rubyfruit76, Champion
When I think of "getting old," I think 70 or 75+. Also, are you going to do a list for men?
Anyway, may I suggest a few edits? ('below in bold) They're grammatical except that I would definitely cut "This also counts for many actresses" for a few reasons. I'd also cut "below" from the last sentence?
Growing old is a pain for many people; some even say the main part of life is over at 60. But some people don't count on their age; they don't despair and enjoy their life better than before. When you look at people such as Sir Sean Connery or Sean Bean, you might realize that growing old can be nice when you have a rich and lovely personality. Now look at these actresses 55+ of age. Which of them is your favorite?
Thanks. : )
Anyway, may I suggest a few edits? ('below in bold) They're grammatical except that I would definitely cut "This also counts for many actresses" for a few reasons. I'd also cut "below" from the last sentence?
Growing old is a pain for many people; some even say the main part of life is over at 60. But some people don't count on their age; they don't despair and enjoy their life better than before. When you look at people such as Sir Sean Connery or Sean Bean, you might realize that growing old can be nice when you have a rich and lovely personality. Now look at these actresses 55+ of age. Which of them is your favorite?
Thanks. : )
Yes! Do a list for men.
ruby:
Done. Interpunction is a hard thing to do in English. G has much more commas and lesser semikolons, but I'm still learning. ;)
ruby & NIA:
Ok, I'll do a list for men. ;)
Done. Interpunction is a hard thing to do in English. G has much more commas and lesser semikolons, but I'm still learning. ;)
ruby & NIA:
Ok, I'll do a list for men. ;)
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rubyfruit76, Champion
FYC:
Instead of a few of the little-known actors like Cassandra Peterson and Tina Louise, here are a few tried and true movie stars:
Oscar winning:
Diane Keaton (73)
Frances McDormand (62)
Jessica Lange (70)
Tilda Swinton (59)
Emma Thompson (60)
Juliet Binoche (55)
Oscar nominated:
Jennifer Jason Leigh (57)
Laura Linney (55)
Glenn Close (72)
Sigourney Weaver (69)
Isabelle Huppert (66)
Oprah Winfrey (65)
Instead of a few of the little-known actors like Cassandra Peterson and Tina Louise, here are a few tried and true movie stars:
Oscar winning:
Diane Keaton (73)
Frances McDormand (62)
Jessica Lange (70)
Tilda Swinton (59)
Emma Thompson (60)
Juliet Binoche (55)
Oscar nominated:
Jennifer Jason Leigh (57)
Laura Linney (55)
Glenn Close (72)
Sigourney Weaver (69)
Isabelle Huppert (66)
Oprah Winfrey (65)
Thank you, ruby. :)
I'll consider them for the second list.
I'll consider them for the second list.
I've put them all to the list except Oprah, because she's already on the first list. About the "The list is so white"-thing: No black, Asien or Mexican suggestions? ;)
rubyfruit76, Champion
No, I didn't find any women of color except Winfrey and a few that were already on your list. Rosie Perez almost makes it: she'll be 55 in a few months.
One of the things about certain lists is that it can be difficult to reach diversity simply because of the nature of the changing movie industry. Women, people of color, and minorities, such as openly LGBTQ persons, can be difficult to find for some lists because they are just starting to break into the "old (straight, white) boys' club." I think that's happening here because while most of the actors in their 50's belong to Generation X, most of this group of actors are Baby Boomers and when they were getting their start, the movie industry utilized the talents of a more narrow group. For instance, Peter Dinklage finds a good deal of work these days - perhaps not enough but, for most of the Twentieth Century, he probably would have been much more marginalized despite his impressive skill.
That's cool that you're making a part two. I hope my suggestions help with that list. : )
One of the things about certain lists is that it can be difficult to reach diversity simply because of the nature of the changing movie industry. Women, people of color, and minorities, such as openly LGBTQ persons, can be difficult to find for some lists because they are just starting to break into the "old (straight, white) boys' club." I think that's happening here because while most of the actors in their 50's belong to Generation X, most of this group of actors are Baby Boomers and when they were getting their start, the movie industry utilized the talents of a more narrow group. For instance, Peter Dinklage finds a good deal of work these days - perhaps not enough but, for most of the Twentieth Century, he probably would have been much more marginalized despite his impressive skill.
That's cool that you're making a part two. I hope my suggestions help with that list. : )
Ok, so maybe later. In sake of free spirit of mankind. :D
Peter, Champion
Dibyayan Chakravorty, Champion
Rekha: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004334/
Some foreign (non-English) beauties should be added to this list.
Some foreign (non-English) beauties should be added to this list.
Nikolay Yeriomin (Mykola Yeromin), Champion
Since this poll's title specifically mentions Hollywood, I believe there's enough material for two polls.
Dibyayan Chakravorty, Champion
Ohh...sorry Nicole...I missed that part...the list looks good by the way...Voted for Sharon.
JANE FONDA
SHIRLEY MacLAINE
BARBARA STREISAND
GLENN CLOSE
BETTE MIDLER
SHIRLEY MacLAINE
BARBARA STREISAND
GLENN CLOSE
BETTE MIDLER
Congrats!
At all:
It's nice to come back from work and find such fun. :)
Thank you, specially for suggesting and having interest in this subject.
Dibyayan:
It's ok for me, when you do some non-Hollywood-poll of the same subject.
The idea then would be to assemble all actresses that never worked in
(for) Hollywood. Or just in minor roles or just in one or two roles, but have
a big filmography. That's just what I think about. Feel free to use it. I would
be honored to vote your poll. :D Perhaps I would have a suggestion.
It's nice to come back from work and find such fun. :)
Thank you, specially for suggesting and having interest in this subject.
Dibyayan:
It's ok for me, when you do some non-Hollywood-poll of the same subject.
The idea then would be to assemble all actresses that never worked in
(for) Hollywood. Or just in minor roles or just in one or two roles, but have
a big filmography. That's just what I think about. Feel free to use it. I would
be honored to vote your poll. :D Perhaps I would have a suggestion.
drednm:
Close already is on the list. But added MacLaine, Streisand, Midler & Fonda.
(On the second list)
Close already is on the list. But added MacLaine, Streisand, Midler & Fonda.
(On the second list)
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