Live Poll: Misunderstood Movies

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Is there a film that you enjoy, but feel like a lot of other people don't like it, simply because they don't understand it? They are quick to point out how dumb it is, even though you're certain it actually has many layers underneath its facade.

Each person may choose one film, and give a short 'review' of it, and if there are enough, it may constitute as a proper poll.
Here's an example (and my pick too):

Conan the Barbarian (1982)

Often thought as:
Just another dumb '80s action film starring Arnold Schwarzenegger

However: mihailo.razvigor says it's actually quite deep. It explores some heavy themes, such as futility of revenge, the power of persuasion, the importance of inner strength, as well as honor, freedom, friendship, free will, and more. It also has a surprisingly poignant performance by Schwarzenegger, as well as an amazing score by Basil Poledouris.

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Now, bear in mind that this is an opinion-based poll, based on your personal preference, so you don't have to spell out facts - just write your own earnest thoughts.

Current list: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584

Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/Hp47elGzD1A/
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Pretty good! My pick would be 'Mother!' from Darren Aronofsky.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5109784/

Spoiler-alert:

I think that many people don't get the point, that the movie is a very clever simile of the world, mother earth, the humans and god. It shows how people dare to devastate the paradise garden which earth is and with every generation it gets worse. Adam and eve are still polite at the beginning. Later Eve is too curious, one of their kids muders the other (Kane and Abel). Every next generation is more intrusive and outrageous  than the other, until mother earth has enough and throws all humans away in a fire rush! It also shows up a religious aspect that specially many christs can't cope with. What's that father who sacrifices his only son for those morrons? I think it's a clear 10. The storytelling and the production look is great. I was a little slow and just got it, when the people slaughtered "Jesus". And thought "Oh my god!" That twist was genius. Suddently I was enlighted about the whole story in a second.

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Your pick has been added to the list.
I've edited it down for clarity (after all, I don't want entry-texts to be too long).
Check it out if you want, to see whether it captures your intent: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584/
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Thank you, that's very good. :D
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Oh, I have plenty of those. Hard to choose, even. 
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You can list several of them, if you want. Maybe writing those short reviews will help you decide which is the one you are most vocal about defending.
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mihailo.razvigor, great idea! 
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Great idea!  My pick is also a Schwarzenegger film.  :)

Last Action Hero (1993)
I believe it was assumed the film was a flop because it initially failed financially, due to being relased at the same time as 'Jurassic Park.'  While it also did get negative reviews, perhaps now it is being rediscovered for what it is: a witty, hilarious action-comedy that wouldn't have worked with any other star (Schwarzenegger) or young supporting actor (O'Brien).  Truly, it has everything - heart touching character development, exciting action, and humor that is both silly-fun and subtley genius. 
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Your pick has been added.
I've edited your quote for clarity - please check it out, to see whether your original intent still remains: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584/
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Perfect!  Thank you very much!
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Fight Club (1999)
Those who haven't seen it believe it to be an extremely violent macho movie about an underground fight club. However they couldn't be more wrong- it actually is a satire that criticises toxic masculinity and depicts the extremes men take to achieve their self entitlement of being a so called 'man'. Even though the movie is twenty years old I still don't want to give away the twist to those who don't know about it- but let's just say it's one of the best in cinematic history!
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Thank you. I have added your pick, and have edited it a bit, for clarity. You can check it out here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584/
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Good luck with the poll!
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James The Movie Guy, I always felt that this movie is about why you should be cautious about even your best ideas and endeavours: how such ideas can easily transform into something horrible. 
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Definitely, it's a movie that really makes you think well after its over. 
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I haven't seen it, and I don't believe that it is an " extremely violent macho movie about an underground fight club." 

I don't make an opinion of a movie before seeing it, but I'm actually sad that it got he place back in the top 10 of IMDb because when Joker was top 9, I had seen every top 10 movies. Anyway, it is never on the T.V, never on Netflix in my country, and I'm too lazy to buy it on DVD so I will probably wait next Christmas to watch it.
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I didn't watch it until I was 17 or 18 but when I did finally see it I was completely blown away by how layered and well crafted it was! Definitely check it out especially if you liked Joker it's a similar type of movie.
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I've changed the INTRO and QUESTION of this poll to make it more about the best argument:

Is there a film that you enjoy, but feel like a lot of other people don't like it, simply because they don't understand it? They are quick to point out how dumb it is, even though you're certain it actually has many layers underneath its facade. We gathered a panel of IMDb users, and asked them to 'defend' some films which they think are often misunderstood.
With whose opinion do you agree?
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That really sounds great.  Professional.  :D
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I wanted to write ''we gathered a panel of esteemed IMDb users'', but that was a bit too much. :-P
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LOL!  :D
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Dune 

Often thought as: A mess that doesn't take the appropriate time to develop the concepts and that doesn't represent the book in his entirety and complexity, directed by someone who was not a fan of Science-Fiction movies.

However, the movie is complex, and it develops a universe with a lot of possibilities and some relations between characters are well explained as well as the political relations between the different regions of the world which allowed David Lynch to create a coherent film.
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I probably made some mistakes you can correct it or ask questions if you doubt about what I was trying to say.
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Thank you. I have added your pick, and have only traded places of some of your words. Check it out here and see whether your original intent is present: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584/
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Thank you.
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Do you want to be credited as cinephile or as thenolanfan?
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If someone else is interested to share their opinion, the list is still open to suggestions.
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   Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

Haters:
  • "It's too dark to be a superhero movie."
  • "Worst DCU movie ever."
  • "Make something entertaining."
  • "Fire Zack Snyder."
Me: (6 words) "People hate what they don't understand" #ReleaseTheSnyderCut

In detail: Maybe they should watch the ultimate edition. It wasn't Zack who messed up the theatrical version, it was Warner Bros., the producers, the businessmen. If you still hate it after watching Snyder's version, then you do not understand it. DC universe is supposed to be dark and Zack delivered exactly how it is and how it should've been. Batman v Superman is a misunderstood Masterpiece. 5-10 years later, people will understand it and start calling it a masterpiece, most of the fans have already admitted that it's the best superhero/comic-book movie to this date. The same happened with Kubrick's films, years later, you already know the effect.

Haters: "It is sh*t."

Me: "That is a three-syllable word for any thought too big for little minds."
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I didn't care for the film, as I'm not a huge comic book movie fan to begin with, but I wouldn't quite call it sh*t, either.  And it's definitely not the worst DC movie!  :D  There's worse movies to call sh*t (Santa and the Ice Cream Bunny (1972)); we needn't waste time hating on this, if one wants to hate on it.
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Is that a DC movie? lmao, I didn't even know.
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Haha, no, thankfully.  ;)  It's an insane "Christmas" movie from 1972, made kinda famous for being featured on RiffTrax, where they make fun of awful films.  Here's some GIFs from it, to give you a taste.
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Batman v Superman is indeed the best DC ever, if not a masterpiece. Tbh, I never got to watch it in the theater, good for me, I've only watched the Director's Cut, and if I'm not wrong, it's also known as the Ultimate edition. And the same thing is going on with Justice League, following Snyder's daughter tragic incident, what the studio did, is so unfair. It's so sad that Snyder will never get to complete his trilogy. But there's still hope.
"Men are still good."
#ReleaseTheSnyderCut
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I'm desperately waiting for Snyder's cut Justice League. ;(
#ReleaseTheSnyderCut

Also, I wanted Larry Fong to be the cinematographer in Justice League. I don't know if it was Zack or the studio who hired the current one. But I'm 97% sure it wasn't Zack, 'cause in almost all his famous films he hired Larry Fong.

Edit: Can't believe he hasn't won an oscar yet. Maybe in the future.
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Your pick has been added.
I've edited your quote for clarity - please check it out, to see whether your original intent still remains: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584
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Thank you <3
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"DC universe is supposed to be dark "

The Marvel Universe is not exactly a pleasant place either.  Frequent warfare across the Earth and the universe at large. Rampant racism, xenophobia, and hatred against anything different. Genocidal campaigns are recurring. Terrorist organizations with immense resources have been active for decades, often with political connections and the business resources of conglomerates. Various religious cults tend to be even more brutal, and less subtle than the terrorists. Human experimentation at the hands of various secretive organizations are commonplace. Magic users can resurrect the dead and convert them to living weapons. Monsters like vampires, werewolves, and mummies are real, and often massive in numbers. Elder Gods, Hell Lords, and many other demons are real and competing over possession of entire worlds. 

It is a dystopian landscape, that is rarely translated into the film adaptations of the comics. 
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Hey mihailo,

The link attached to users' names (even yours) on your list is incorrect. It shows a (404) error. Please check it out when you have time.

Thank you.
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Thank you. I've corrected it now.
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Spring Breakers (2012).

Often thought of as: A dumb party movie that relies on bare skin to sell itself.

However: Director Harmony Korine lures in the kind of audience that would like to see a superficial movie, but his aim is to alienate (judging on the reactions, the attempt was successful). Images, dialogue, narration and music are linked in a way that exposes the triviality, but also the danger that lies in an mindless party culture and the spring break mentality.
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I've always felt that Day of The Dead (1985) has been treated unfairly. I don't want to say misunderstood, but perhaps not understood well enough. I say "not misunderstood", because everything that's been said about the movie is true and fair: Too much talk for a horror film, extremely gory even for a horror film, with "such a level of overacting that humans upstage the zombies" in Roger Ebert's words, more or less. But the movie's depiction of human behaviour, only 12 of whom are left on earth, is so extremely accurate that it still leaves me in awe, it surpasses many serious dramas in that aspect. Although it's a zombie film with the best makeup effects I've seen (and believe me, I've seen pretty much all of them) with buckets of blood oozing from the screen, it still manages to give the viewer a feeling of pessimism and brooding about mankind's futility, rather than a feeling of disgust because of the visual effects (like many lesser horror films do). I'm not sure the film is what George A. Romero intended to make in the first place (his budget was cut in half, he had to use royalty-free music, cut the running time, change actors etc) but the end result is definitely a piece of movie history for me.

On another note, I'd like to add two more films. One is The Usual Suspects, which is an eye-roller when it's mentioned in every movie discussion, because there's always that token guy who yells "I GUESSED THE TWIST EARLY ON!" Good for you, ignoramus, go pat yourself on the back, but you guessed nothing. The real twist of the movie is that most of the story we just watched is a fabrication of a character. We just watched two hours of a lie (some parts were true no doubt, but that's another discussion) Some people are so moronically obsessed with guessing something or catching a surprise beforehand that they miss the actual experience they're supposed to be getting.

The second one is 12 Angry Men. Before the imdb discussion boards were closed, there were endless discussions about whether juror no. 3 was an angelic figure (white suit and all) and whether the boy on trial was innocent or not, etc. From their talk you could guess that these were mostly intelligent people with at least some movie knowledge, and some much more intelligent than me, but it still surprised me how so many of them could miss the point. I almost wondered "did these guys watch the same movie as me?" No, the boy's innocence is not the point of the film, the movie does not clear the boy of anything. It just points out that the prosecution's points were not strong enough, so they couldn't be sure, that's all. Even juror no. 3 points out himself that "Maybe we're trying to let a guilty man go free, I don't know. Nobody really can."

And let's not forget that for quite a few people, Rocky is still a "boxing" movie.

By the way, I agree about the subject matter of Mother! I admit I didn't catch most of it upon my first (and only) viewing, but it wouldn't have made a difference. No matter what it means and what it symbolizes, it remains THE most unpleasant movie experience I ever had. And I've seen A Serbian Film.
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And let's not forget that for quite a few people, Rocky is still a "boxing" movie.
And First Blood is widely seen as a mindless "muscleman kicks ass" action movie. Come to think of, I should probably change my choice to that.
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Yes, few people realize that the body count in First Blood is 1.
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Yes, few people realize that the body count in First Blood is 1.

Really?  Wow!  Never seen it myself but I had it pegged for more!  :D
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NarniaisAwesome, it definitely has more, it's just that Rambo's own bodycount is one human being in this movie (more with animals, but not by much). 

Miscounted movie bodycounts are annoying me way more than they should so I decided to do that myself from time to time. I always try to collect and compare as much previous counts as I can and they're usually rather much off as exemplified by my comprehensive bodycount of The Terminator (1984)
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Thank you for suggestions - they were an interesting read. But since I've limited it to one suggestion per user, I've decided to use your defense of DotD.
As with other suggestions, I've shortened it for length and clarity.
Please check it out, to see whether your original intent still remains: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584
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Thanks, you summarized it better than I could have done.
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I haven't seen it for some time, but I'm pretty sure only one person dies onscreen in First Blood, that's a deputy, who Rambo kills inadvertently (and he was trying to protect his own life, so it may not even count as murder technically). He kills a wild boar to eat, and probably some rats in the mine scene as well, but he only wounds the other deputies and civilians, or at least seriously hurts them. Nobody else is seen dying onscreen, even though there are some violent Vietnam flashbacks. But like I said, it's been some time, I could be wrong.

The novel, on the other hand, is pretty violent from what I heard, and ends with Rambo killing pretty much everyone and then committing suicide (I like to read many novels that inspired movies, but haven't been able to locate that one here) Which was completely changed for the movie to make Rambo more sympathetic for the audience. Which was a wise choice, looking back. It makes the movie more about PTSD and how war f's up men, instead of a movie about a crazy killer spilling blood.

But keep in mind that it's still a violent movie, in the emotional sense. In fact, it's not easy to watch.

Of course Stallone abundantly makes up for this in the later installments, he solves the world's overpopulation problem single-handed.
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"No, the boy's innocence is not the point of the film, the movie does not clear the boy of anything. It just points out that the prosecution's points were not strong enough, so they couldn't be sure, that's all. "

Considering the areas of uncertainty in many real-life cases, I would argue this is realistic. 
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Since this list is very wordy, I would like to limit it to 10 poll-entries, not more. If this thread gets more suggestions than that, I will probably make a second part.

So, to repeat, this poll suggestion is limited to 10 entries, with 8 already being taken.
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Two more spots are open, if anyone wants to chime in.
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Tomorrow I'll choose one, I have to sleep right now haha
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Often thought of as: Everyone thinks it's a horror movie and this prevents their imagination from going beyond what they can see and blaming Shyamalan for making a meaningless story.

However: This is a much more complex film, it is a psychological study of characters with small elements of terror, a story that explores the consequences of living under ignorance and wanting to find knowledge, the consequences of living in a mental village.
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Your pick has been added to the list.
I've edited it down for clarity.
Check it out if you want, to see whether it captures your intent: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097469584/
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Pete's Dragon (1977)

Often thought as a mediocre and forgettable Disney movie.

However, it's a wonderful tale of friendship, family and hope. This movie teaches us about the importance of justice and that kindness always prevails. It also has a great cast and some very beautiful and catchy songs.
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Your pick has been added to the list, the way you wrote it.
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This list is now complete at 10/10 entries.
If it becomes a candidate for a live poll, I would like for RubyFruit to comb through it and fix all grammar/spelling errors.

I do not plan on doing Part 2 of this poll anytime soon, so if anyone wishes to make a sequel, you have my full blessing to do so. Consider this idea to be public domain.

Thank you all for their contributions!
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Great job!
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Congratulations! That's a great one. :D
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Watchmen (c. 2008)

People were all like... "stupid sci fi action movie with this big blue guy with a big blue dick."

The psychological and socio-political nuances of the film were totally lost on the viewers.

PS. I'm referring to the movie which was based on the mid 80s comic books. 

The recent HBO Series IS total rubbish,
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"Watchmen (c. 2008)

People were all like... "stupid sci fi action movie with this big blue guy with a big blue dick."

The psychological and socio-political nuances of the film were totally lost on the viewers."

AND

"PS. I'm referring to the movie which was based on the mid 80s comic books. 

The recent HBO Series IS total rubbish[....]"
With these two sentiments? That's irony for you. 

And I love the movie and have yet to see the HBO series.
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Abi, HBO series is still based on the same book, it just uses discarded and small details from the story to craft a new one. Admittedly, it's not a show for everyone, but I totally love what they did with some of the characters, especially Hooded Justice. 
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Stephen Atwood,

There is no inconsistency, nor "irony" inherent in differentiating between intelligent socio-political and psychological nuance; and SJW excrement.
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What is SJW?
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Social Justice Warrior
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Congratulations mihailorazvigor on your 7th live poll! As of 7-Apr-2020 7:38 AM Pacific your polls have 2,498 or more votes, for an average of 357 votes per poll.

Misunderstood Movies
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