Live Face-Off Poll: "Star Trek: Discovery" vs. "The Orville"

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Star Trek: Discovery and The Orville made their debut 12 years after the end of Enterprise. Which is the worthier descendant of the Star Trek legacy?

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Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/S4sUKr1ryp8/
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I haven't seen either but both look interesting so, now that I know about them, I'll check them out. It's great to find out about new series -- there are so many, these days, that sometimes some get lost on my radar. 'Great match-up.
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Star Trek: Discovery
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Can I pick neither?
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Live Poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/S4sUKr1ryp8/?ref_=po_ho [Imagine clapping emoticon here :) ]
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Ruby,

Thanks.
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STD (will never call this trainwreck DSC or worse, Disco) is a blight on the legacy and good will of Trek. Once finally over, it will not be remembered. When a show makes ENT seasons 1 & 2 look better by comparison, there is a problem.

Orville has Trek's heart. It has Trek's writers. Not knockoff hacks from the CW.
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Amen, brother.  The utopian society of Roddenbery would have him turning in his grave as to what CBS and Bad Reboot have done to dirty the name of Star Trek. Back in 2011, Seth MacFarlane offered CBS a Star Trek with his ideas, they foolishly turned it down.  Fox did the right thing and went with the genius that is Seth--Seth Trek. 
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The Orville is Star Trek
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He did go the franchise owners and they shot him down.  Bad move on their part.  
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Hi Kevin Tinsley,

This poll went live over two years ago. Last week this poll had 608 votes. Today there is 1,469 votes.

I'm curious why there is a sudden interest in this poll. Was a link to this poll posted on a Star Trek forum?
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JP from Egotastic Funtime brought it to a lot of peoples attention. Frankly, many are tired of these insane Drekkies attitude about the show being the success both monetarily and commercially when it is perfectly obvious that it severely lacks in quality at writing and acting and everything else maybe save their special effects budget . Has to be pretty to placate the Gen Z Ritalin masses . I’ll pinky swear on that
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Mick Dees,

Thank you for the information.
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Mick Dees, et al,

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The Orville is in Essence what we all want Star Trek to be but with some humor added.  STD is in Essence an actual STD.. and not Star Trek what so ever!  Attacking a whole fanbase by putting out a shit version of a science fiction show and calling it star trek is an abomination
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No, The Orville is a show for those who still live in the late 80s, where TNG was mainstream TV SF. We don't live in that world any more. If you want to watch TNG, don't watch the ORville, ...watch TNG.
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No, we watch the Orville. STD is a pile of complete garbage in comparison. No use trying to deflect from the reality that the Orville is the superior property . Thank you for playing now. I hope you enjoy your lackluster television entertainment.
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José Ramón Serrano
The Orville is a show for those who still live in the late 80s where TNG was mainstream TV SF. We don't live in that world any more
Yeah, gotta love the nonsense that spills out of the Gobshite community. What are you trying to say man? Because we live in a world revolving round the lowest common denominator, people who think anything new must be an improvement or progress.

As bad as most things are right now, I'm at least glad that people like you didn't get in the way of Star Wars or Indiana Jones, and dare I say it - The Orville. As others have pointed out to you, Seth MacFarlane tried to bring back Trek at CBS, but was sneered at by the people who ulltimately gave us STD.


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The Orville is the worthier descendant of the Star Trek legacy. I'm not for sure what Discovery is, but it's definitely not Star Trek.
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It's not even close. Orville has the spirit of Trek. CBS has never produced Trek and doesn't act like they ever will, nor do they have the desire to do so. Roddenberry and Paramount produced Trek. CBS makes dumbed down sci-fi for people who didn't like Trek, by people who never understood or cared for it. 

Trek fans: watch the Orville. Then watch the old fan films back before CBS sued their own fans to stop, so they can give us an STD. 
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GreedBS rejected Star Trek back in the 60s and went with Lost in Space instead. Seems their logic is still the same.
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I just followed the link for the vote, logged in - and it says I voted for The Orville. Which I did NOT.
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Hi Irfan Alisic,

It's possible you followed a link for voting for Orville.

Link for poll: http://www.imdb.com/poll/S4sUKr1ryp8/
Link for poll results: https://www.imdb.com/poll/S4sUKr1ryp8/results
Link if you voted for Star Trek: Discovery: https://www.imdb.com/poll/S4sUKr1ryp8/results?answer=1
Link if you voted for Orville:https://www.imdb.com/poll/S4sUKr1ryp8/results?answer=2
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The Orville seems to be in perfect balance where STD went wild on effects but cheaped out on actors and ripped off garbage fan fic sites for writing. 
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who is voting for STD? are those people insane? its like choosing to have AIDS, why would anyone like such a disgusting show?
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I do not know a single Discovery Fan.  That show was complete crap, the only half decent part of the show (Pike/Spock) have been written off the show.  They are moving forward with everything that sucked about it and even have  spin off of the SUCK in the works.  

How about give the fans what they actually want, a REAL STAR TREK series with PIke/Spock.  
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I have actually spoken at length with a couple STD fans.  When asked about the other Star Trek they enjoy they said they watched TOS and TNG as children, tried a few episodes of VOY/DS9/ENT, and love STD.  When I've tried to encourage them to go back and watch the old series or finish the series they have started, they have zero interest.  I watch all Star Trek about once per year.  This is the difference between the fan groups, and why STD merchandise is non-existent. They do not have the same rabid fanbase as what the Canon Timeline has, which is why they're doomed to struggle on scraps.
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They really don't.
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I wouldn't vote for neither. STD is terrible but Orville? I can't understand the love for it. It's a bloody Family guy in space. It's SATIRE, and not very good either.
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I was wary of that until I watched the first few eps. It has a joke or two, sure, especially earlier on in Season 1, but it’s really nothing like Family Guy in space. That negative slant generally comes from the irrational STD defenders (aka “Drekkies”) who can’t support valid criticisms of the show.

NO SOUP FOR YOU! (Had to do that. Sorry)
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No, it is tone deaf. I understand it is a Seth love affair with TNG, but it as no grasp of nuance or how to deal with the themes. I have watched most of it, but can't get beyond 1/2 a show because, 1 the adolsecent humour, and 2.  of how they deal with serious subjects; the holocaust, segregation, murder, genocide, whatever, they go through the motions very a la 1970s.
In one episode they murdered a whole bunch of the baddies, like they were having a few beers in abar and in another, the went to a planet save a few of the epole and ...thats it. No remorse for the ones they couldn't.
There was actually one episode where they went after the holocaust...oh dear.

Discovery is not for us wh saw the original show. It's for the 21st century youtube people and world we live in.
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Is there really anything to discuss?!?  CBS wants "Star Trek: Discovery" to be "Star Wars" in order to compete. And, "Star Trek" is about a future of PEACE!!! NOT war!!!  War is literally in the title of "Star Wars." So, there ALWAYS will need to be a war to sustain the "Star Wars" franchise.  "The Orville" is the ONLY worthy descendant of the "Star Trek" franchise at this point!!! Why? Because "The Orville" is about PEACE!!!  It is about a world that is BETTER than the one we are currently living in!!!  It gives us a goal to strive for in life!!!  It encourages us as a world to be kinder and gentler versus staying in a continuous selfish, self-centered, pointless, destructive war until everyone is wounded, trusts no one and ends up DEAD!!!  "The Orville" gives us HOPE in the PRESENT by showing us a possible utopia of the future!!! It takes much more strength to hope than despair.  Trust me!!!  
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The Orville is a loving homage to Gene Roddenberry's optimistic vision of the future.  It remains true to Roddenberry's ideals.  It is well written and has interesting plots, well-fleshed-out characters that we can sympathize with and root for, and intelligent, incisive social commentary that doesn't deteriorate into preaching.  The writers make a serious attempt to keep the science plausible. The effects are top notch.

Discovery, on the other hand, is lousy in pretty much every conceivable way.  The writing is poor: the stories make no sense, the characters are two-dimensional, and the main character is such an arrogant, irritating jackass that we actually want to see her get killed off so she can be replaced with someone less abrasive.  The "science" is laughable.  The cinematography is rotten: the sets are so dark that you can't see what is going on, especially wit the excessive lens flare and the crazy camera angles.  When aliens speak we are given endless paragraphs of subtitles to read, which soon grows tedious.  Pretty much everything about this show is crude and amateurish.  This is not true Star Trek by any means; it is the polar opposite of Roddenberry's vision.
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Discovery is what it is, The Orville is not what you say it is.
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You manage to be both obvious and obtuse, in the same sentence. Much like everything else you've written on this subject.
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So much fun watching this. Reminds me of 1977. ST or SW.
This is too funny.
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Ed,

There is a long history in fandom of these kind of "religious" debates:
Star Trek vs. Star Wars
DS9 vs. B5
Windows vs. Apple OS vs. Unix

"True fans" of science fiction denigrated both Star Trek and Star Wars when then debuted since neither met the paradigm of written science fiction. Fortunately, people like Bjo Trimble (a long time fan of science fiction) helped save Star Trek.
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Star Trek, Hands down, is the best show! Seth McFarlen has done so much with the IP!