Poll Suggestion: Best Movie Villain of 2019

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Who is the best villain from a movie released in 2019?


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After looking over the entire list of villainous characters that were on that roster, the only one that I could choose was "THANOS" from the "AVENGERS" films.
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The sharks or the alligators.
I think you should put a 'disclaimer' on this list that asks the poll-admin to wait until the end of the year to let it go live.  There's plenty of upcoming movies with villains and we don't know them all yet.
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I don't think the editors will make it live. It's early indeed. It's supposed to be an ongoing list which will be updated throughout the year.
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Joker
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I think that, in Joker, he's an anti-hero.
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My Opinion (You can place pretty much every character on one of those):

Anti-Hero: Does the Right Thing in the wrong way (Deadpool)
Hero: Does the Right Thing in the right way (Superman)
Vilain: Does the Bad Thing in the wrong way (Hannibal Lecter)
IDK: Does the Bad Thing in the right way (No Idea)


For me, Arthur Fleck fits in the "Vilain" spot.
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Hero : does the right thing with the right intentions in the right way
Antihero: does the right thing with the right intentions in the wrong way
Villain: does the wrong thing with the wrong intentions in the wrong way (or right from his perspective)
Antivillain: does the wrong thing with the right intentions in the wrong way OR does the right thing with the wrong intentions in the right or wrong way
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In my opinion he is a villain protagonist. As ELMo said since Travis Bickle is considered a villain why not Joker?
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rubyfruit76, my five cents: still a villain protagonist if incredibly sympathetic one and, as in case of Taxi Driver (1976) we really gravitate more towards Arthur than anyone else in the story. 

cinephile, "IDK: Does the Bad Thing in the right way (No Idea)". Interesting. That's probably another type of anti-hero.

There is also a slippery but great type of anti-villain: is still an antagonist of the story, despite essentially doing the right thing. Sometimes villains transcend into this in strange redeeming arcs: they're now technically right, but still behave like a villain and all of the sufficient methodology is there. Sometimes we just have anti-villains as a natural response to a charming anti-hero or villain protagonist. It's often an archenemy in the latter case, because usual means of defeating a villain won't work on anti-villain and one just plagues anti-hero constantly. 
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How about images without named or titles on it? I think it is the most suitable format for characters-based polls.
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Of course images suit better with these kind of polls. I just thought to make it with posters cause it might have a small possibility with the Homepage. It's a little impossible but I'd take my chances.
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Paok, a friendly advice, don't let the homepage thing be the driver of your creativity, especially since the homepage ain't what it used to be anymore. Your poll is definitely a character-based one and it works perfectly with images, I've been doing villains polls as much as quotes polls (https://www.imdb.com/poll/JzSdF0p1iA0/resultshttps://www.imdb.com/poll/nK3G_HvyFCQ/resultshttps://www.imdb.com/poll/Bd7E9235uZU/results etc.)
 and believe me, villains' pictures are so cool-looking, so photogenic that there's no need spoiling them with writing all over their faces, you've got plenty of good ideas that are suitable for the homepage, 2019 was a great year for villains and there are very cool wordless pictures of them.
I hope this will resonate...
by the way, images poll can make it in the homepage:
https://www.imdb.com/poll/YgSS8jxIcfQ/
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Done
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Mysterio


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My pick

Brandon Breyer. He looks sooooo "Bad-Ass"

Titles: Brightburn
People: Jackson A. Dunn

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I don't believe that John Reid is a vilain, he was in the movie, but not in real life.
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Well, the list is based in the movie though so he is fairly in the list.
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Paok, there's a bit of a discussion above about whether the Joker, in Joker, is a villain.
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Travis Bickle made it in AFI's TOP 50 Villains... and the Joker is worse than Travis.
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Joker is an anti-villain in my opinion
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AntiVillain
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Elmo is right.

In 'Joker' 2019, Arthur Fleck a.k.a the Joker is an Anti-Supervillain / Anti-villain.
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Yeah, I also think that Anti-Villain is the right term to describe him.
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15yearsIMDber aka ElMo, wrote another response on that type before stumbling upon yours. I should be more patient and read the whole page. :)
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Joker in Joker(2019) is best described as an anti-hero.

Like the guy from Crime and Punishment, etc.

So Thanos wins by default.
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Abi, might actually be an unpopular opinion, but I can't perceive Rakolnikov as anything else but villain protagonist. It might just be my pet peeve for people who can't hold their aggression and violent impulses inside, though. 
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Both things are relevant, which is why I mentioned both.
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The 'timely' thing is irrelevant as I explained with arguments with the 'Most Anticipated Movie of 2020'. You said it yourself that 'these things are not always consistent', so sometimes the suggestions go live sometimes they don't. No conspiracy or whatever, in contrast with this case.
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I'm just telling you the reason the suggestion was not used. Would you prefer if I didn't?
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I didn't remember asking you why this suggestion was not used, I just agreed to cinephile that it is sad that this poll never went live. Besides, who told you that I wasn't aware of why this suggestion never went live? I am long enough member of this community to understand how the editors think.
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