P.S.: The 2018 Best Picture Oscar Race Off And Running - 1st Quarter.

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Already, some exceptionally fine films have been released in the first quarter of this year, which is odd because films released in January, February and March seldon get nominated for Best Picture come Oscar time. Should these somehow get remembered in the fall, which one would you like to see nominated for a best picture Oscar?

And since March is not over yet, you can not only discuss the topic here, you can suggest you own nominations too.

This is going to be a good year.
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Hostiles also is a 2017 film that doesn't qualify for the 2019 Oscars.  It has a limited theatrical release in USA 22 December 2017 (limited).  It doesn't qualify for next year's Oscars.  Technically, one can consider it a snub for the 2018 Oscars.

You should actually look into their respective releases before adding anymore entries.
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You probably should check your own facts before correcting someone. You maybe wrong about Hostiles. It was only released in five theaters for the last ten days of December 2017, so long as those theaters are not in L.A. County. it would qualify according to rule 3.2.

"It’s not enough that you release the finest feature film in a given year; in order to qualify for the Best Picture Oscar, you’ll have to meet a good number of Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences-ordained demands, particularly in regard to the distribution of your movie.

A MOVIE MUST RUN IN LOS ANGELES FOR A WEEK

A film can release all over the country, but if it doesn’t spend at least seven consecutive days in a commercial motion picture theater in Los Angeles County, it doesn’t make the cut.

AND THAT WEEK MUST LAND IN THE YEAR BEFORE ITS RESPECTIVE OSCAR CEREMONY

A film will only be eligible for the Academy Awards competition immediately following the calendar year in which its Los Angeles run takes place. Said run can begin any time between January 1 and December 31.

.BUT A MOVIE MAY RELEASE IN OTHER THEATERS BEFORE RELEASING IN L.A.

In fact, there’s some leeway here. A film can release anytime in the calendar year prior to the calendar year in consideration for a given Academy Awards competition, so long as its venue is a commercial motion picture theater, and no other form of release is permitted through its eventual qualifying week in Los Angeles."


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Both Urbanmovies and Stephen Atwood, understand that I do know the rules about qualifying runs. Also, before posting this I did check the release date for “Hostiles”, “Red Sparrow”, “Black Panther”, and “The Greatest Showman” on the IMDb. The release date listed by the IMDb for “Hostiles” is 26 January 2018 (USA), http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5478478/?.... And IMDb page at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5478478/r... shows that it ran at film festivals, and a limited run in the USA ( but was it in Los Angeles County? That is the key words in the rules for qualification), but the official USA release date is Jan 26 2018.
Secoundly, in creating the “I Can’t Believe They Chose That As Best Picture” and “What is THE WORST MOVIE From The Past 35 Years To Be Named “Best Picture”“ polls, I had used https://m.imdb.com/chart/bestpicture/ and http://www.imdb.com/search/title?coun.... On the https://m.imdb.com/chart/bestpicture/ , I had noticed at least three Best Picture award winners that were released in one year but won the award in the following year.
- Casablanca (1942) The 1943 winner
- Crash (2004) The 2005 winner
- The Hurt Locker (2008)The 2009 winner
In you don’t believe me, check https://m.imdb.com/chart/bestpicture/ for yourself.
So it is possible for a film to be made in one year and qualify for the Oscars in another year. In fact, “The Hurt Locker” had several showing at film festivals in 2008, and a limited release in June 2009 before it’s official July 31, 2009 USA release date. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0887912/... and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0887912/...
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If you click the image and read the rule it allows for a movie to be shown as a preview or at festivals or even to released almost a full year prior to it qualifying run in LA or formerly LA/NYC. A lot movies that screen at TIFF get released in the following year and fall into next Oscars cycle. Basically, the rule makes the point you are making. IMDb seems to tags movie from the date they are first publicly shown worldwide, which is fair. But, it may not be actual release date or year it is shown in your country or locale. An extreme example would be Japan's Only Yesterday (1991) which had it "official" USA release 26 February 2016 (USA) some 25 years later. I wouldn't think the distributor of Hostiles would give up their eligibility to release ten days early in five theaters to make a couple thousands dollars. But, that is purely speculative.
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Hostiles is on the official Reminder List for the 90th Oscars, so that settles that it was eligible this year and not next year.

http://www.oscars.org/oscars/rules-el...
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I never knew such lists existed, very interesting! 

Browsing it is very addictive for some reason. So much "what if" scenarios... 
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I found this and thought it was interesting, the Oscars has since amended the rule so the earliest a movie can be shown is the prior year (theatrically to be eligible for a 2019 Oscar a movie can be shown as early as January 1, 2017).

"Limelight (1952) is the only film to have won an award twenty years after its official release. Since it was not released in Los Angeles County until 1972, it was not eligible for any Academy Awards until that time. Limelight (1952) is the only film to have won an award twenty years after its official release. Since it was not released in Los Angeles County until 1972, it was not eligible for any Academy Awards until that time."

Charlie Chaplin won his only Oscar for this movie for Score, I am not sure which I find more shocking that he only one in his entire career or that he had to wait twenty years after the films release.
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I would say both. That just adds to my frustration with one week in Los Angeles County limited run and screeners to members of the academy qualification rule. It has lead to so many gerrymandered nominations and using the Oscar nominations as advertising for new unknown films like crazy. It really is unfair to all the films that were in general release before December.
As Chaplin goes, that man deserved multiple Oscars.
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I would use 2019 Oscars in the title, if you are going to use it that way. as the race for 2018 Best Picture Oscar Race ends today. I also wouldn't use first quarter in the title either, unless you want to restrict yourself to a handful of viable movies. I would think anything with 70 Metascore might be a possible candidate. I did like Hostiles though, which had a 65.

FYC
An Early Look at the Oscars 2019 Best Picture Race
The Best Oscars 2019 Best Picture Candidate, So Far
Early Favorites Oscars 2019 Best Picture Race

January/February/March Movies Movie Pool 1000 votes, 7.0+ IMDb rated
 
Hostiles (2017) 65 Metascore
Red Sparrow (2018) 54 Metascore
Black Panther (2018) 88 Metascore
Game Night (I) (2018) 66 Metascore
Annihilation (2018) 79 Metascore
A Wrinkle in Time (2018) ?? Metascore
Thoroughbreds (2017) 83 Metascore
Love, Simon (2018) 73 Metascore
Gringo (2018) ?? Metascore
Allure (2017) 70 Metascore
Isle of Dogs (2018) 83 Metascore
Final Portrait (2017) 77 Metascore
Ready Player One (2018) ?? Metascore
Outside In (2017) 85 Metascore
Gemini (2017) 77 Metascore
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Actually this not. The winners from the show tonight would be for 2017. It is a number thing where the best for one year is honored in an awards ceremony that actually takes place early in the following year when it comes to the Oscars. So therefore, my title is correct since the awards ceremony honoring the films of 2018 will take place in 2019 but still the awards will be considered for 2018.
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Yes, I agree it is the Best Picture Oscar Race for the best movie of 2018. Still, I don't think I will be alone in my confusion when you put Oscars and the year together in the title.I think you need to carefully word it to avoid any issues, some people will understand what you mean and others won't. I think you were confused yourself. Oscar pictures that are released one year (ie 2017) are considered 2018 Oscar nominees or 2018 Oscar Winners if they achieve that distinction. Since the ceremony is held the next year, the years never match. It has been like that for over 75 years.
, I had noticed at least three Best Picture award winners that were released in one year but won the award in the following year.
- Casablanca (1942) The 1943 winner
- Crash (2004) The 2005 winner
- The Hurt Locker (2008)The 2009 winner
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There has long been confusion about the use of years to identify the Oscar ceremonies. But we have been using "Oscar 2018" in the polls to refer to last night's awards, so I agree we should avoid using 2018 in reference to the next awards.

An alternative: The 91st Oscars
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