Most Inaccurate Biographical/Historical Movie

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Due to varying reasons, some biographies and history movies tell quite a different tale compared to what actually happened. Which of these historically orientated movies is the most inaccurate ?

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My pick:

Argo (2012)
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I would like to suggest Bohemian Rhapsody (2018) for the list.
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Added !
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I do not remember what the historical aspect of The Day After Tomorrow was, since quite some time has passed since the last time I saw it. Care to explain ? :-)
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I'd say Braveheart, definitely.

I'm not British, so I have very little knowledge of their history, but even if 10 percent of the trivia / goof section is true, it must be the most historically inaccurate movie.


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FYC:
U-517
Cool Runnings
They Died With Their Boots On
Remember the Titans
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Added Remember the Titans !

Discarded the rest; minimum amount of votes needed is 100.000.
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"Discarded the rest; minimum amount of votes needed is 100.000."
I know you're relatively new to this game of pollmaking. But you need to post these restrictions somewhere other than a belated post in the thread. Maybe consider posting it in the original post and/or the text of the list.
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Yes, I know. I always forget to put it in the description of the post, but I will try to get better at it.
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FYC: Inglorious Basterds: US soldiers being told to commit war crimes on German POWs and Hitler's death.
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You need to do a better job researching your history. US soldiers in WWII were often commanded to commit war crimes on German POWs. All sides committed their fair share of war crimes against the opposing side. It's the nature of warfare. That's a statement of facts, not an endorsement of the historical practice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II

That said? Inglorious Basterds was never meant to be a Historical film. 
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another thing: German soldiers had been fighting for years. they were hardened soldiers, and they would not be scared of some small rogue band of US war  criminals. If US soldiers were to be know going out and torturing German POWs, it would have put US POWs at risk. The only time it was acceptable to kill a POW was if one was captured behind enemy lines where the soldiers could not take him with them and there was no one to hand him off too.
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Good list. I have no way, short of extensive research, to know which is the least accurate but I'd guess that 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is the one I'm most sure about so that has a good chance of getting my vote. I get the sense that 'Shakespeare in Love' is more whimsical than accurate and 'Remember the Titans' is, I'd guess, quite sanitized, so those are contenders, too: 'Interesting to ponder.

I'd suggest two small edits: 

Which of these historically oriented movies is the most inaccurate?

(no space between "inaccurate" and the question mark; oriented instead of orientated)

Thanks : )

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Thank you for pointing out the spelling mistake !

It is however my personal preference to put a space between the question/exclamation mark and the last word in a sentence :-)
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Pocahontas.  

I hate inaccurate movies!!
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Whilst I have the ability to "forgive them", if you will, some altered plot points of a biography or history film can still be quite hard to gloss over.
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Thank you, Peter !
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i'd say ARGO! Can't believe that it won best picture at the oscars!!!
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One of various recent mistakes
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The Conqueror (1956) with John Wayne as Genghis Kahn
The Far Horizons (1955) Meriwether Lewis and William Clark expedition with Fred MacMurray, Charlton Heston, and as Sacajawea; Donna Reed wearing a lot of red makeup. This movie is so far from what really happened, it's almost a comedic parody of the Lewis and Clark journey.
On Dragnet the announcer said the story is true, but, the names have been changed to protect the innocent. With many of the movies listed; they included the actual names, but, changed almost everything else.
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I guess a poll cannot be edited once it's on. But at the risk of sounding defensive or overty patriotic, I'd like to suggest two more titles.

First one is Harem (1986). I admit I haven't yet seen this, I have the DVD somewhere in my endless pile of "to be watched later" movies. But going by the synopsis, it takes place in the Ottoman palace in the early 1900's and has parts that are in... the desert? the SAHARA desert? The Ottoman capital was Istanbul, and since the nearest desert was about... give or take 10 thousand kilometers away, I'd say this lame attempt at "western woman in danger searches for inner feelings and finds that..." cheap romance nonsense was never meant to be accurate, anyway.

The second one is, of course, the notorious Midnight Express (1978). It waves the flag so high, screams so loud, saying BOO, TURKS! LOOK, SCARY TURKS! BOO! that it becomes a ridiculous parody. I won't even mention that both Brad Davis and director Alan Parker admitted that the film was completely one-sided and tried to cash in on the hatred. I won't even mention that the real Billy Hayes actually apologized to all the Turks, saying the movie was a complete misrepresentation.

But I will mention one thing, a detail which probably goes over the heads of non-Turkish speaking audiences: the language.

Many Turkish characters were played by Turk-hating Armenians, and their accent is palpable. But that's only part of the fun. Oh Lord, those sentences...

Imagine Hannibal Lecter talking, but instead of "A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti" he goes, "Man try to count me, me don't like, me eats man, me drinks wine." And ending it with "Bwahahaahaa it's so nice to be an evil Turk, screw you you good-looking western person!"

Of course the movie helped strengthen the idea in the average illiterate joe's mind that Turkey was yet another eastern hellhole where if you ever were sent to prison, you'd better pray you die first. Which is understandable, since incarcerated citizens in the good old west spend their time reading the classics, learning to play the violin and participating in other sorts of cultural activities, as we all know.

Alan Parker remains one of my favorite directors, though. He made the best musical in my opinion (The Commitments) and what is easily one of the top 10 horror movies ever (Angel Heart).


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Torture in Turkish prisons is an endemic problem per Amnestry International. See here:http://ob.nubati.net/wiki/Illustrated_Reports_of_Amnesty_International#File_on_Torture

Wikipedia has a sourced article on Torture in Turkey. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_in_Turkey

"Suspects are blindfolded and handcuffed immediately after detention. Even common criminal suspects are stripped naked during interrogation and left like that, often after being hosed with ice-cold water or left on the concrete floors of cells in harsh conditions of winter. The HRA and the Human Rights Foundation of Turkey (HRFT) determined 37 torture techniques, such as electric shock, squeezing the testicles, hanging by the arms or legs, blindfolding, stripping the suspect naked, spraying with high-pressure water, etc. These techniques are used by the special team members and other interrogation teams. Foot whipping (Turkish: falaka) was the method most frequently applied, until Prof. Dr. Veli Lök discovered a method of bone scintigraphy that enabled him to detect effects of it a long time after torture."

"There are many more methods applied in Turkey during the past and the present. In the annual reports of the Treatment and Rehabilitation Centres of the Human Rights Foundation the list of methods covers one page. The European Committee for the Prevention of Torture observed that the most severe methods of ill-treatment encountered in the past by CPT delegations has diminished in recent times." 

But Turkey is far from the only country in Asia and Europe that has skeletons in its closet. 
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"But Turkey is far from the only country in Asia and Europe that has skeletons in its closet."

More like, far from the only country anywhere in the world...

I remember seeing a news-footage about prisons in Brazil, for instance, it was like a horror movie. I suppose many countries, often regardless of their geographical position (east or west) have similar situations. But it's fashionable to hate Turks. The fact that we give people a lot of valid reasons to do so doesn't help the situation, either.

Then again, I also remember seeing articles about prisons in Norway, which actually looked better than where I live. Not just the cleanliness, but prisoners had actual furniture, TVs, internet access, even had access to musical instruments...


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