Miscellaneous Link , explain for missing

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For 2 TV shows
Datebase continues to ask for Misc link even when left blank - there are none, Thinking I needed to put in something I  put in the website for the TV station: Vermont PBS, also rejected 
The shows was broadcast in 1969-1970, before the internet. 
Also when asked why not listed I put in an explanation but also rejected
The Art of Luigi Lucioni  -  Contribution #160317-232533-455000

The First Step - Contribution #160319-202444-282000

I have video tape of both shows and the awards that they won, in case someone doubts their existence

How do I resolve this.   

Thanks   

John Simpson - son of Garry Simpson the writer and director of these shows (who already has an IMDB page, all the way back to 1947, the old credits were with NBC so it appears NBC posted them)

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John: The software is not supposed to require a Miscellaneous Link for titles released before the year 2000.

Can you please post screen shots here of your data submissions, from the top of the page to the bottom, so that the contributors here can look at what you are entering and try to figure out what might have gone wrong?
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I never put in a misc link but in the rejection it was asked for it - so I put the PBS station website to put in something but they were also the distributor  - is that the problem, the same site is listed?  I can't get all submission in 1 shot but here is beginning and ending of submission, 2nd showing misc. link button







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John: Without seeing the entire page, from the top of the screen to the bottom, I can't be 100% sure. However, I don't think that the problem is the lack of a Miscellaneous Link. Notice that in the second screen shot above, Miscellaneous Link is the last item in the Recommended Information section -- that indicates that it is optional. If it were required, it would be listed as such.

On the other hand, in the Major Credits section, it says "3 items required", and currently none are listed. You would normally need to provide at least 3 credits in any combination of cast members, writers, producers, composers, cinematographers, and editors. In other words, 3 cast members would be enough -- or 3 producers would be enough -- or a writer, a composer, and an editor -- or any other combination from among these occupations.

Since you have a videotape of this program, you should be able to provide enough credits to get the title submitted.

There might be other missing data in the parts of the page that aren't shown here, but this is all I can advise you about based on the screen shots that have been posted.

I hope this helps. Good luck!
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I'll give it another try - thanks
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Missed that - sorry - I just added them But I have the same issue with a 2nd show and that one does have 3 listed and misc link is blank, I want to give you a screen shot but no longer see an attach icon below - this site is so difficult to use, any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks
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John: I still have the icon to attach a photo. When you post a message here you should see twelve icons below your message, from left to right as follows:

B (boldface)
I (italic)
U (underline)
S (strikethrough)
a chain link (link)
a camera (upload a photo)
a movie camera (upload a video)
unordered list
ordered list 
quote marks (quotation)
pre (preformatted text)
</> (HTML)

But if that's not what you're getting, I recommend uploading your screen shot(s) to a free image hosting site like http://tinypic.com/, and then posting the links to the screen shots here.
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I do have all of these but I don't see one to use for an attachment 
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John: Use the sixth icon from the left, the camera icon, located between the chain link icon and the movie camera icon.

You should then get a message that says, "To upload an image, drag & drop here or select a file from your computer (jpg, gif, png, 2MB max)."
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the icon says copy link, so I thought they meant internet link. I could not get entire entry in one shot so put them in separately. For the other show (The Art of...) where I did not list the required 3 entries, I did add them and still get the same error message.
Interesting to me that the other shows that I was able to upload when I look at the entry on IMDb, it does not show all the info that I had imputed  Thanks so much gromit 82 - if you are in San Francisco the Film Society has a special show May 1st for Aardman Animation
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John: Where are those screen shots? Did you upload them to Tinypic.com or somewhere like that?

As to the other shows that you submitted, but for which not all your data has been posted, when did you submit those other shows? The data does not get posted all at once (although it usually doesn't take more than a few days).
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I attached using "camera" icon they appeared to be in the note I sent you attaching again
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John: I can't point to one specific change that you would need to have The First Step accepted. But I do have some suggestions.

Explanation for missing information: Normally if at all possible, you would want to avoid submitting anything in the explanation for missing information. Doing so suggests to IMDb that your title does not qualify the "regular" way and needs an exception to be made to qualify for listing.

In this case, you have a particularly useful piece of information there that should be submitted elsewhere in the form; you stated that the program was narrated by "Lorne Green". Assuming that this refers to the Lorne Greene of "Bonanza" and "Battlestar Galactica" fame, his name is misspelled, and he should be listed as a Cast member instead, in the role of Narrator (with a (voice) attribute). Greene is famous enough that his involvement would give your program a slightly higher priority for being reviewed by the IMDb staff, if it was listed under the Cast section. (And even if this was some other Lorne Green, he should still be listed in the Cast section.)

I am not sure what "Academy of TV Arts and Sciences Award" you are referring to this program winning. Isn't the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences the organization that gives the Emmy Awards? In any event, there should probably be a category associated with such an award to identify it more specifically. But I think that can be left out for now.

Miscellaneous links: I've found a few good Miscellaneous Links which can help support this title. I mention them at this point because they are relevant to some of the items I mention below.

http://www.worldcat.org/title/first-step/oclc/668111702 - Worldcat - listing
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=9QdHAAAAIBAJ&sjid=u-kMAAAAIBAJ&pg=3621%2C888843 -- Schnectady Gazette - article (1/4/69)
http://www.loc.gov/folklife/civilrights/survey/view_collection.php?coll_id=1761 - Library of Congress - description

Release date: I've found an earlier release date for this title -- 7 January 1969 (mentioned in the Schnectady Gazette article), to be used instead of the 11 November 1969 date. However, I would recommend using the attribute (limited) for that date, because I wouldn't expect the program to have aired nationally on that date.

Production information: I would recommend omitting the Official Site you provided, http://www.vpt.org, altogether. An Official Site should link directly to a page about the title being submitted. In this case, there appears to be nothing on any page of the Vermont Public Television web site about this program (given that it aired 47 years ago).

I have seen at least once before a title get accepted after the submitter removed an Official Site from her submission that wasn't helping because it didn't contain information about her film. (See https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/title_not_accepted_as_not_enough_links_but_it_pre_dates_link... and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3676944/.) I would describe that as a kind of "addition by subtraction".

As to the Distributor, Vermont Public Television should not be listed in that function. The distributor should probably be Eastern Educational Network [us] instead (as mentioned in the Schnectady Gazette article).

Major credits: As mentioned above, please add the narrator to the cast.

Filming locations: The location of "Vermont, USA" is enough here. Adding (Vermont) as an attribute doesn't provide any additional information. (If omitting the attribute gives you a warning asking you to provide an attribute, check the box to ignore that warning.)

I think that, with these changes, it is likely that you will be able to get this title accepted into the database.

Good luck!
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WOW you are good!
the 3 links are for the same show and yes it is Greene (oops spelling) of Bonanza fame. National Academy TV Arts Science does do the Emmy's but it appears to have another category "Television Academy Award", which is what this show one. Another show "The 14th Star about the history of Vermont did win an Emmy. If you look at my Dad's page the photo of him is with that Emmy. THANK YOU!
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Let's see if now IMDb accepts the updats
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It worked it is now published - Thank you!