Listing issue (background uncredited listed as starring)

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I am working on the series Those Who Kill filming in Pittsburgh, Pa. I listed myself in the episodes I've worked on as background. It somehow put me in as starring although I have myself uncredited. Can anyone explain why IMDb is doing this or why it posted me that way. i need to correct it and don't know how without removing the fact I'm working on the series. Thanks for any help.
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Can you clarify your question?  I see you're listed (Nicholas Balzer www.imdb.com/name/nm3183621/), as "uncredited (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2188931/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast).  IMDb does not distinguish "background" or "starring," but they do show credited (name appears in the on screen credits) or uncredited (name does not appear in on screen credits).  While they do show a "summary" of cast regulars, you're not listed there.  Only in the expanded, full cast list, with the other "uncredited" roles.

If you're qualified for listing, there'd be no real way to remove your credits.  If they need some sort of correction, that can be done.  But, I don't understand what that correction might be.


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When you search Those Who Kill, my name comes up in the search next to another background actor who mistakenly came up as starring. Casting contacted us today to correct this as the writer and producers brought it up. I'm trying to make the necessary corrections, but for some reason I'm hearing my name comes up in a starring role (although I've marked myself as uncredited).
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and the correction would be to make sure my name does not come up when you search for the show

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But, if you're listed correctly, how could that be a "correction?"  It might be their preference, but there doesn't seem to be a mistake needing "correction." The names showing there are not meant to distinguish a star from a background actor.  It's meant to help me locating a title I am looking for and decide if it's the right one.  It's not meant to advertise a specific person's work.  That's not what the database is about/for.
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The page lists:

Stars:
Shannon M. Hart,
Sandy Slicker,
Chloë Sevigny
Regarding the search, I am not sure how it decides which to use (maybe starmeter?..and you're is trending up), but it's automated and there is nothing you can edit to change that.  They should not be contacting you over this.  Your credit is listed correctly so there's nothing for you to correct (and, if you try to delete your name from the credits, the request won't likely be accepted).

Maybe someone can jump in and answer what is used to choose the names to display...though, looking at the page, it seems to be because you're credited in the highest number of episodes at 5.  Chloe Sevigny would be a good one to list and she's top 500 in starmeter, and isn't listed, so my guess at starmeter is obviously wrong. 

Anyway, it's beyond what the show's writers/producers can control...and certainly beyond what you could/should do anything about.


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When I search for the show, you don't turn up:

http://www.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=Those+Who+Kill

When I click through to the series' main page I don't even see your name:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2188931/

You also don't see to be on the first page for the pilot episode:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3198280/

Or any of the other episodes you are listed on.

So I am struggling to find either a problem or you - you are hardly occupying some unduly prominent possession in the search or the credits.


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thats where i believe the writer and producers have an issue as Chloe Sevigny should show in that search. My friend Shannon Hart is also BG and not a star, but I think that may be due to her listing not shown as uncredited.
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thanks for the help also
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Just let them know it's a function of the site to help users identify what they're looking for by showing us the people most often associated with the title.  If Meryl Streep does one or two episodes, even she won't show up because the most helpful will be those appearing most often.  Hope that makes sense. Also, this would be fluid and if Chloe keeps working on the show, she'd likely eventually show up there.

You're welcome
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That shows up when you search my name (yahoo search).
"Those Who Kill" (2014) - IMDbwww.imdb.com/title/tt2188931/combined   CachedDirected by Joe Carnahan. With Nicholas Balzer, Shannon M. Hart, Julie Miklos. Centers on a female police detective and a profiler (forensic psychiatrist), on the ..

and my name at the top of this link http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2188931/combined

Cast (Series Cast Summary - 18 of 41)

Nicholas Balzer ... Core Police Officer / ... (5 episodes, 2014)
Shannon M. Hart ... Attorney (4 episodes, 2014)
Julie Miklos ... Secretary (4 episodes, 2014)
Montaja Simmons ... Cop (4 episodes, 2014)
Sandy Slicker ... Core Clerical (4 episodes, 2014)
Chloë Sevigny ... Catherine Jensen (3 episodes, 2014)
James D'Arcy ... Thomas Schaeffer (3 episodes, 2014)
James Morrison ... Frank Bisgaard (3 episodes, 2014)
Omid Abtahi ... Jerry Molbeck (3 episodes, 2014)

this could be where they have an issue


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Yeah.  Again, it's listing by quantity.  So, nothing to fix, though IMDb should follow Emperor's advice below.
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He's apparently talking about typing the title into the search box, and
that he's coming up first next to the title where it offers actor names
to help users recognize the right search results.

Ah right, that seems to be drawing the ranking from ranking as given on the combined view:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2188931/combined

Which seems to be a crude count of how many episodes they are listed on (another reason I don't use combined view), presumably because this hasn't been released yet.

There is no simple fix (although I think medium-term IMDB might want to think about how it draws on the people associated with each title, perhaps ignoring uncredited roles, which enthusiastic extras have added), but the most obvious one is:

  • Stop adding your uncredited roles to episodes before the main cast is listed.
  • Then get the production company to add the stars to the first 5 or 6 episodes.
This will then put other people at the top of listing and push his name out of the quick search results.


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That'd be a good fix!