There is a huge discrepancy between inputting submissions and correcting submissions that are incorrect or in the wrong category.
For instance, I moved two obvious
Trivia items from where they had been submitted as Goofs. I deleted
the Goof entries and entered them as Trivia.
Within minutes, the Trivia items had
been posted. Days later, the deletions (Moved to Trivia) were
declined, leaving duplicate entries in Goofs and Trivia.
Seems that, basically, anybody can have
incorrect submissions immediately accepted, but trying to repair the
errors is a long, tedious process.
Fury (2014) 24 December 2019
Those are my experiences with deletions. And yes even with those precautions, you will still visit here on occasion for a second look see. Just the way it is as you described.
For future reference, do you consider a quote from "B. Unacceptable Goofs", showing the entry is not in accord with submission guidelines would be enough to justify a deletion?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2713180/goofs?ref_=tt_ql_trv_2#anachronism under Factual Errors
The Fury is an upgraded M4 using the same high-velocity 76mm as was on the Hellcat Tank destroyer. This gun could penetrate 120mm (Tiger's max frontal) armor at 1000 Yards with standard AP. at 1500 yards they could penetrate the 80mm max Tiger side armor. The tank charge was done early and mid war as the short 75 didn't have the same punch.
The Panzerfaust warhead was a shaped charge, driven by an explosive. Depending on the type, it contained roughly two to four times as much explosive than a hand grenade. On impact, it made a very loud bang.
I saw them as straight statements of fact with no reference to events in the movie.
I may well be out of my depth here...
Thanks for the explanation.
I spend about an hour per submission. First selecting errors that I think are dodgy, researching them online, poring over my recordings of the movie, typing up an explanation of why I think the reported errors are incorrect and submitting my results. Then I wait about 3 days to find out if a person was on the job or if the bot was on duty.
If the bot declined my corrections,
there comes more hours of re-wording and re-researching the
correction and then the 14 day wait to re-submit.
Life's too short, Ed, so- unless I get
granted the right to post without being screened by the bot, I am
going to have to pass.
When I see some obvious frivolous error
entry submitted by some nit-picking teenager eager to be posted on
such a prestigious website, I'll just grit my teeth and let it go.
I'm thinking of blaming you for passive/aggressive behaviour though. Trying to make out like I've done something wrong.
Clever use of the paraquote even if it has no relation to anything I've said and is clearly a diversionary tactic.
Thanks for your post.
Please try removing the duplicated trivia items using a link to this post.
Thank you in advance.
Just to be clear, do you want me to remove the items that I put into Trivia because they are duplicates of items in Factual Errors? Or the other way around?
I am not sure that Ed's interpretations are valid. Ed's interpretation and extrapolation:
“Both of these items are attempting to say that the ordinances damage does not match actual real world results. IE: Factual Error.”
“...so the explosions and damage done
does not correlate to the actual real world damage that would have
"Crew members of destroyed M4A3 tanks
reported direct hits with 76mm tank fire bouncing off turret and
front slope plates of enemy tank, which is further proof of inability
of present medium tanks to successfully fight the German Mark VI
Unit History, 781st Tank Battalion p 9 of 47, 1945-01-19"
“Ordnance told me this 76mm would
take care of anything the Germans had. Now I find you can’t knock
out a damn thing with it” General Eisenhower
Further observations on fact accuracy.
From the supposed Goof: “These tanks ordinance charge upgrades were done early and mid war...”
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_gun_M1: “It was not until July 1944 that a call for M4s armed with 76s was put out”
"In real life, the Easy Eight, equipped
with its 76 mm gun, was a relatively late addition to the war effort
– only in production since late 1944."
“Director David Ayer has spoken of the lengths gone to for maximum verisimilitude...”
So, considering the mistakes of the OP and Ed's misuse of Occam's Razor vs Ayer's efforts and the movie's researchers efforts at accuracy, I think that it should be deleted from Factual Errors and edited to correct the “early and mid war” mistake in Trivia.
As far as the Panzerfaust comment, I
still maintain it is a straight statement of fact with no reference
to any particular action in the movie and thus, Trivia.
What say you?
They are not trivia.
Off topic - I watched Ken Russell's 1975 Tommy on Hollywood Suite 70s today. You want to see some Goof reporting that's truly hilarious?
Then watch the movie and see what they were about.