J. W. Perra

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IMDB has an entry for J. W. Perra
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0674501/

but also there is information that it's a made up pseudonym for movies directed by "Robert Talbot" and written by "Benjamin Carr"

and in case of Head Of The Family it's Michael Citriniti for Myron, and he is also Squidgy from Mystery Monsters

what to do with that information?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfh7ujdenbM

also there is a demo reel from someone who is probably Michael Citriniti taking ownership of JW Perra in Head of the family and Mystery Monsters


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If it is a collective pseudonym (it seems so), it may have its own page, as in case with Alan Smithee. Especially since, it seems that most of the roles credited to this name are heavy make-up creature effects.  
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Hi agof -

To clarify, you believe that "J.W. Perra" is a pseudonym for "Alan Smithee", is that correct?

If you are certain that the page is a pseudonym for an existing individual listed on the site, you will need to submit a Name Merge request for our editors to take a look.
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what?
what alan?
i never said anything about any alans

2 out of 4 roles are claimed by Michael Citriniti
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0162918/
and i haven't seen 2 other


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To interpret what everybody is saying.
Those names were chosen by individuals to separate themselves from their actual names. A pseudonym. An acceptable name use according to IMDb. I just used Alan Smithee for a new title submission when I did not know who a writer was on a TV Documentary.
Michelle said to submit a name merge if you believe that one is required.
Otherwise she is also saying, do nothing.
IMDb knows who those names are and why they are.
So submit a correction or don't submit a correction.
My recommendation is do nothing.

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Michelle, sorry for confusion: I used Alan Smithee as an example to illustrate how collective pseudonyms are added to IMDb. I believe J.W. Perra to be a similar example. 
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in your example it's written that AS is a group pseudonym

jwp belong to one person and all Robert Talbot credits are only "as" on band's page and all Benjamin Carr credits are only "as" on writer's page

also a lot of AS credits are marked with real people behind it
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One person can use and be AS. It is not a group. All the AS can be lumped in together as a type of many separate individuals that chose to be anonymous. But AS is not a group.
If you cannot comprehend the reasons and uses for Alan Smithee and any other well known pseudonyms, than maybe it's best to leave those credits alone.
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agof, precise problem with the likes of Alan Smithee: mixture of identified and anonymous in the credits. Just leaving it as is having a separate page for anonymous credits and "(as Alan Smithee)" attributes would have been a mess of epic proportions: tons of credits being misplaced on pages of identified Smithee name users, for example. Granted, Smithee is a unique case in that regard, but it is the main reason to keep collective pseudonyms as separate pages: that way they become visible and won't lead to a cluster of mistakes.  
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well we aren't talking about AS
we are talking about Robert Talbot, Benjamin Carr and J. W. Perra

2 out of 3 don't have separate pages, all three are not collective names

so it's either one way or other
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IMDB has an entry for J. W. Perra
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0674501/

but also there is information that it's a made up pseudonym for movies directed by "Robert Talbot" and written by "Benjamin Carr"

and in case of Head Of The Family it's Michael Citriniti for Myron, and he is also Squidgy from Mystery Monsters

what to do with that information?

Nikolay may have comment on Alan, but the same thing applies to ANY pseudonym. Leave them alone.
No Merge
No Delete

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Adding to what Ed said, if it is known who used pseudonyms in particular cases, they could be added to cast in the same role, with "(uncredited)" attribute. 

 
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it's a question of why don't  Robert Talbot and Benjamin Carr have separate pages then
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Because someone merged them when they shouldn't have.
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agof, because they do have pages. It is known that Robert Talbot IS Charles Band and Benjamin Carr IS Neal Marshall Stevens. Since in this case their identities behind-the-scenes were confirmed numerous times and pseudonyms were not used by multiple people as far as we know, they're considered alternate names of Band and Stevens, respecitvely. I

The right solution in this case should probably be like this: J.W. Perra remains as is. Michael Citriniti receives uncredited cast listings in Head of the Family (1996) and Mystery Monsters (1997), albeit I will research further to find more confirmations of that, because so far I did some and I can't find any information on Perra being Citriniti anywhere: it would have been nice of you to provide any sources of that: behind-the-scenes documentary, maybe?.. J.W. Perra may or may not receive a "(credit only)" attribute, or, better yet, situation gets specified in trivia on both his and movie's page. 

Ed Jones (XLIX), no, in this case nothing seems to be merged erroneously. 
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Cool. I looked at the supposed "Why don't the have separate pages" quote by agof and saw the same thing too. There has to be a point when you get tired of looking at things he claims exist only to find that his statements are not true. I reached it with that one. I gave up. EBoy has given up trying to help agof. I stuck in as long as I can. Getting valid information on which you can help him had gotten beyond frustrating. That is why staff just marks his posts acknowledged, and gives canned advice and moves on. They have given up also.
Thanks, Nikolay
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well it is know that MC is perra same way

and here is his demo reel
https://youtu.be/Xfh7ujdenbM<br><br>you can try to contact him directly for confirmation

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agof, I believe official demo reel counts... I wanted to add the listings straight away, but then I decided to re-check one more thing. Hopefully it will come up in a few days and we'll see. 
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