Incorrect information on my profile

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There is incorrect information on my profile. I am trying to correct it, but I have had no luck. There are three issues, as outlined in my update submission 190607-021307-673000:

1) Speedy Delivery co-producer credit incorrectly says I was credited as Stuart Dean Friedel, when in fact I was credited only as Stuart Friedel

2) Speedy Delivery director of photography credit incorrectly says I was credited as Stuart Dean Friedel, when in fact I was credited only as Stuart Friedel

3)VH1 Big in '05 -- I had absolutely zero involvement in this production. My college roommates at one point thought it was a funny joke to say I worked on random things -- this is the only reason I can think this would be on my profile.

For 1 and 2, I have included a screenshot below of my Speedy Delivery credit, showing that I clearly am credited as Stuart Friedel and not Stuart Dean Friedel. For 3, I have no idea how I can possibly prove the absence of a credit. Your instructions tell me how to add a missing credit, but not how to prove that a credit you have for me is not real and does not exist. Please advise!!!

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Hi Stuart -

For the first issue, I have now adjusted the credit and removed the incorrect aka attribute, as per the screen grab you posted.  Concerning your Cinematography credit, can you post the screen grab as well showing how your name was credited on-screen?

For the second issue concerning the credit listing for "VH1 Big in '05", we will need to see the full on-screen film credits for this title to verify the information.  If you are able to locate this film, please take screen grabs of the full end credit display and post it here for our staff to review.
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Thank you for the help and for the reply. I can't say I am happy with how long this whole process took, but I'm glad to finally have some movement on it, and very much appreciate you giving it a look.

For the VH1 Big in '05 credit, I'm sure you can appreciate how difficult -- if not impossible -- of a task it would be for me to get my hands on the footage of a 14 year old awards show I had nothing to do with, and which predates online video sharing. But frankly, it doesn't seem like I should have to.

Clearly IMDb doesn't require such stringent proof for credits to be posted initially, or else this false credit never would have made it onto my account. That alone should put the burden of proof on IMDb when a credit is challenged by the person you're claiming it belongs to: why should you be allowed to publish false information about me without proof or citation, but then demand that from me when I want it removed?

I am a professional in the entertainment industry. IMDb is the de facto resume source for the entertainment industry. You therefore are a third party company that has control over my resume, and you are refusing to remove false, publicly viewable information on my professional resume even when I have told you it is false and requested it be removed.

As stated, I cannot possibly find the credits for this production to "prove" that I am not in them. What I can offer is hosts of anecdotal proof.

-I was a freshman/sophomore in college in '05 -- a full time student, which I can verify for you with paperwork and transcripts if necessary. A PA job on a production like this is not something a full time student would be able to do, nor would a full time student be hired for a job like that. If you know Hollywood and network/cable TV productions, you know that makes no sense.

-PAs are not a credited position on a production like this. Even if I was a PA (which I was not), I would not have gotten a credit for it.

-I have no PA experience, period.

The argument to keep the credit essentially boils down to: It's on there (even if it was published without any proof or fact checking), so why change it?

The argument to remove it: The person whose credit it supposedly is tells you that it's not true, that this false credit can and does do material harm to his job prospects in his industry, and demonstrates how the credit doesn't even make logical sense as something that could be real or factual.

Thank you again for your help.
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Hi Stuart -

Our aim is to be the most complete and reliable source of movie, TV, and entertainment information on the web. In order to continue offering our users an accurate and trustworthy service, it is our policy not to alter or delete any kind of correct/factual information from our records.

Concerning the credit for "VH1 Big in '05", we have reasons to believe the listed credit is factual, as such we cannot remove this credit without further evidence (specifically, a screen grab of the on-screen credits).  Once you have located the credits for the film, please post them here and our staff can then take another look.
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Can you please share with me any and all "reliable proof" you have that the credit is real and accurate? Or any reasons whatsoever you have to believe the credit is factual?

And can you please correct both my Speedy Delivery credits to remove the demonstrably incorrect "credited as" attribute?

Thank you.
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Can I please get a response? Thank you.
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Hi Stuart,

Thanks for your response.

I've now ensured both Speedy Delivery credits are updated for you now - please allow up to 24 hours for this to reflect on all platforms. 

Regarding the credit, our editors believe this to be factual - as a result we cannot remove this as requested.

Thanks,

Joel 
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Thank you, Joel.

As per the above, can you please share with me any and all reasons you and your editors have for believing the VH1 Big in 05 credit is real and accurate?
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Hi Stuart,

As previously advised once you have provided the screenshot we'll be happy to take a look.
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Hi Will -

I am not asking for what you want from me. I am asking you what you have that leads you to believe this credit is true.

If you're saying you refuse to remove the credit because 1) you strive to be "the most complete and reliable source of movie, TV, and entertainment information on the web," and 2) you believe the credit is "factual," I am simply asking you why you believe the credit is factual.

I too want IMDb to be as complete and reliable as possible. Which means we should be on the same team here.

I -- who should be the end all, be all source of all things accurate about my own history -- am telling you you have a false credit on my page. That alone should be enough to raise red flags and garner a reinvestigation if you're serious about wanting to be a "complete and reliable source."

I have explained to you why the "evidence" you're asking for is nearly -- if not totally -- impossible for me to furnish. And I have also provided hosts of anecdotal evidence demonstrating that A) a PA credit on a production like this would not be granted, B) there was no possible way for me to be a PA on this production, credited or not, and C) I have provided a probable explanation for the original source of the false credit.

You are still saying you believe the credit to be factual. Which leads me to believe you must have something on your end that appears to be a stronger case for why you believe the credit to be true. And since I know for an unequivocal fact that the credit is false, it is necessary that I know what you have that leads you to believe the credit is true so that I can refute it.

You are publishing false facts about me in writing, on the website that acts as the de facto professional resume for people in my industry, and are refusing to engage in any serious discussion to correct the record while insisting you reason is because you aim to be the most accurate record possible. This does not add up. I am simply -- for the sake of my own professional resume, as well as for aiding your stated goal of complete, reliable accuracy -- attempting to get to the bottom of what's going on here.

Now again I ask, would you please provide me with any and all evidence you have leading to believe this credit is factual?

Thank you.
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Hi, Stuart.

As we don't know you and don't know the content of your character, we cannot simply take your word—the word of a stranger—for it that the name "Stuart Dean Friedel" was absent from the part of the show where the production assistant credits were displayed. The IMDb site authorities have the ability to look through the edit history, and most likely would have disclosed if anything resembling an accident, confusion, discrepancy, maliciousness or incorrect assumption was spotted in the log, as far as when the credits for the whole show were first recorded to the database, or when any page splits or page merges may have occurred in regards to the title page or the name page in question.

Unless you have or would follow the correspondence directions given by Will an earlier reply appearing below, perhaps you should consider updating the filmography item to have the "(credit only)" attribute, which would imply that the studio screwed up rather than some unidentified-yet-likely-credible IMDb Contributor.

It's also possible but unlikely that there is some other person in the industry (even if a one-off action) has the exact same given name (including middle name) and family name as you. That is something you could also discuss via the means suggested by Will.
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Except, as I mentioned, my college roommates thought it was funny to submit fake credits for me when I was first trying to get entry into the industry. So I can pretty much guarantee this credit was submitted by either a user named deandoocock, deandoococ, or beezerfla (with a few other possibilities in there too). In which case, the edit history would corroborate my story.

I implore you to go through the edit history and see if that credit was indeed submitted by one of those users. Or if not, to please provide me with the username so I can contact the appropriate friend and have them corroborate the story.

The credit is fake, period. I am the only Stuart Dean Friedel in the world. I know the history of this credit. And it is fake.
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Stuart

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I have posted the requested screenshots below, along with a link to the video containing the complete credits. Could you please finally fix this absurd issue so I can put it to rest?
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Stuart, Will will not see your reply as this is marked answered.
You must use the contact us method described above to continue this discussion
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Thank you. They are infuriating.
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:)
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Hi Stuart,

If you wish to discuss this in more detail please use the Contact us form selecting IMDb Fan/Contributor questions > Filmography credits > Other credit issues.
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Could you please see my below response and address this ASAP?
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Stuart

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I have located the account that originally made the submission, and through that account I have tried to edit the contribution and confirm that it is fake. Can you please tell me why the credit is still there?? Literally the only reason you have for thinking the credit is real is that my account under stuart.friedel@pomona.edu submitted the credit years ago. If I am telling you it is fake, the original submission account is telling you it is fake...you have literally no reason to think it's anything other than fake. What's the problem??
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I found the credits. They start at almost exactly the 6-minute mark in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSiv4hUENY

I have included a screenshot of the Production Assistant credits below, and you will see that not only am I not credited, but very few of your listed Production Assistant credits are correct.

I trust this matter is now closed, and the fake credit will be removed from my profile permanently. 


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I found a few more lists of production assistants, none of which I am on. Screenshots below.